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Is this Right or Wrong? IP banned

Void Singer
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11-11-2008 05:51
From: Lear Cale
I don't believe this is true in the US, either. In most cases, you have to pay extra for a static IP address -- you have to do this if you want to host a service on the internet, and most broadband accounts don't have them.

it's actually pretty trivial to host a service from a dynamic IP, one free DNS account, and an updater that monitors your current IP and taps the DNS server when it changes, poof, you're never unreachable at a fixed domain for more than a minute or so (assuming proper DNS caching by the users ISPs, usually not a problem.

the big issue is that most ISP's have a "you can't run servers" clause (mine doesn't thankfully) in the user aggreement. these are frequently ignored though, and generally prety easy to get around.

to those that believe they might have a static IP, don't believe it, even at four years running. granted for all intents it might as well be one, but it isn't guaranteed, and that's the only major difference these days... a guaranteed static IP is a bonus to businesses because they can safely allow DNS cahcing, making lookups for their pages/servers faster and more reliable, these days that's about all it means.

My regards to the OP, being shot before the trial isn't something I envy, especially not when they use artillery to do it.
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Vampyre Corleone
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strange
11-11-2008 05:58
they must have had some problems, I remember a lady having a problem with an underage boy, she complained and had proof of his age and all and his account and ip are still in tact...
Plus, it is also strange tha thy don't first ask for proof then ban the ip, must have been a real bad misunderstanding.....

unfair
Existez Clipper
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What the hell is wrong with the Lindens...
11-11-2008 08:49
This is non-sense, my partner and i are on the same connection as well....
And are both paying members...
I say we get this to the press...TV....national Guards, SAS, FBI....RCMP....

No Joke, this is unrespectfull of people who pay to have fun...
And get robbed by people who only try to make money...IE a few old players who take fun in taking your money away in a bad manner....then laugh at you because the Lindens will not do anything about it.

Once again, we should bring this to the press...

No Joke....

And the ones who have no opinion else then just laugh about it because they are freebies, then try playing as a paying member and then think about it...

I am 100 % behind you Krygor and Jacama.
Rock Vacirca
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11-11-2008 12:03
I fear the only way for anyone to get any kind of redress is through legal action, which is probably much easier if you are in Europe, particularly Britain.

If you feel strongly enough, take out a claim for any losses in the Small Claims Court. This can be done online, no need for a solicitor (unless they reply that they intend to fight it).

The procedure is simple, costs are awarded to you if they do not fight it, fail to turn up, or if they lose.


Rock
Zutah Zuhal
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so sorry
11-11-2008 13:06
So sorry this happened to you both Jacama and Kry and your daughter aswell i'm looking up information now to try and help as much as i can. what scares me though is the fact that they ask for all that info on all of you as proof. the only thing that pops into my head after hearing that and again it frightens me to even think bout it is fraud. but at this point i agree with the small clams idea because lets face it SL is SL but when you pay RL money to play and no response or any type of assistance is provided as to why banning then the next step would have to be small claims. hopefully not though i really do feel your pain and will do as much as i can to help. and hope you get it all sorted out. if there's anything i can do let me know i'll be on for a while.
Elgyfu Wishbringer
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11-11-2008 14:36
Kygore, if you still can't get in to pay your rental, if you send me a PM here, perhaps I could pay the rental for you until you get back in so as to stop your loosing your spots?
Or you can contact me on skype - I am cunningly called 'elgyfu' on there :-)
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Charlotte Bartlett
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11-11-2008 18:24
Have I read this correctly, you faxed over the Passports for all 3 avatars and they still haven't opened it up to you?

When did you send it over?

Sorry this is happening to you and the original situation that caused them to seek verification.
Lyla Tunwarm
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11-11-2008 18:40
From: Dev Ceriano
Fraid your incorrect there, the reason you have had the same IP for that long, is your one of many whom luck out and when there lease expires every few days or so, the IP you had wasn't swiped up by someone else.

I will buy that I guess... I have moved 3 times and live in an apartment complex. Seems strange it is still the same.
Dilbert Dilweg
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11-12-2008 02:04
Any time I needed a new IP I just changed my mac address in my router by 1 value. IPs are leased to a Mac address either by modem (If No Router) OR By router
All I had to do was open my router settings. Change 1 number in the mac address and then from the router release IP and then renew IP. The Network will recognize it as a new router and assign it a new IP.The IP you release stays in the pool untilL it expires, which is still leased to the old Mac address
It never fails for me . I use a Cable connection tho. never tried with DSL

This is all pretty much a one sided story. Simple solution is provide the info they requested
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Conan Godwin
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Drama!!
11-12-2008 02:54
From: Existez Clipper
This is non-sense, my partner and i are on the same connection as well....
And are both paying members...
I say we get this to the press...TV....national Guards, SAS, FBI....RCMP....

No Joke, this is unrespectfull of people who pay to have fun...
And get robbed by people who only try to make money...IE a few old players who take fun in taking your money away in a bad manner....then laugh at you because the Lindens will not do anything about it.

Once again, we should bring this to the press...

No Joke....

And the ones who have no opinion else then just laugh about it because they are freebies, then try playing as a paying member and then think about it...

I am 100 % behind you Krygor and Jacama.


I think perhaps you are a little confused about what has happened here. Someone reported her daughter as being underage and Linden Lab have asked her to prove she isn't. Her IP has been blocked temporarily pending receipt of proof that she is over 18. No one has defrauded anyone out of any money.
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Conan Godwin
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11-12-2008 02:57
From: Void Singer


My regards to the OP, being shot before the trial isn't something I envy, especially not when they use artillery to do it.


She hasn't been "shot before the trial", she's been arrested and held on remand. When you are suspected of a crime in real life, the police arrest you before you go to trial don't they? I don't think the criminal justice system would work if they did it the other way around. She has been temporarily suspended pending proof that she is over 18. That is all. All she has to do is prove she is, and she'll be back in. No problem.

This thread is just an attempt to create drama. I approve of it.
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hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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Charlotte Bartlett
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11-12-2008 04:29
I can't see anywhere in this thread that the OP has provided the proof of Id required? But some serious discussion of how to circumvent a ban.

Again when did you provide the ID to Linden Lab?
Conan Godwin
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11-12-2008 04:55
From: Charlotte Bartlett
I can't see anywhere in this thread that the OP has provided the proof of Id required? But some serious discussion of how to circumvent a ban.

Again when did you provide the ID to Linden Lab?


She hasn't. She is in the UK and only has her passport until she gets back to the US in three weeks.

From: Jacama Zeme
Right now our daughter and myself are in england with krygor so alls we have is our passports with us. they want more then that so we wont be able to prove anything about her account until we return to america in about 3 weeks.



From: Brenda Connolly
Then you have your answer. Bombarding LL with emails and stamping your feet is not going to change anything.

OK, so you wait 3 weeks and starighten it out. It's not the end of the world. You can use the time to do Real World Family stuff.



From: Jacama Zeme
I will continue to bombard LL with emails and I will continue to stamp my fist as I dont use my feet.
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Conifer Dada
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11-12-2008 05:01
I looked at age verification form on this site and it looks like it's impossible to use from UK because you have to choose a US state and we don't have any of those here on our little green island. There appears to be no 'other' or 'none' option.
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Conan Godwin
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11-12-2008 05:06
From: Conifer Dada
I looked at age verification form on this site and it looks like it's impossible to use from UK because you have to choose a US state and we don't have any of those here on our little green island. There appears to be no 'other' or 'none' option.


That's a bit of a pain, but fortunately for the OP she lives in the US and so can verify. Problem solved, job's a good'un.
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Krygor Paragon
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11-12-2008 06:17
thanks all for keeping this thread going. Ok I think it's time to give you all an update.

At present Jacama has managed to find her driving licence which she found in her suitcase and I will get it scanned tonight and sent back with her ticket that she has generated. She has already managed to verify on the SL site but the ticket requests the scan.

For myself I can't verify my account as I do have a british address and the "State/Province/Region" won't let me past. Therefore I will also take a scan of my driving licence and send it in with Jacamas ticket.

As far as my daughters account it appears to have been fully deleted and so may have to get her to make another avatar until we get back to the states. Her ID is packed in a lockup with the rest of our items over in Maine (yes yes I know but i thought it would be safer and thought her passport was plenty enough ID for the uk).

Thanks to all the people who have offered to help me keep my spots. I managed to log into SL on a friends PC so this is sorted.

Now IP's. Yes I can confirm that my isp has given me a non dynamic IP and they can't change it for me. They say the only way I could change it was by cancelling my broadband and then re-applying, which i feel is stupid. I am able to purchase an additional lan IP from them but thought it was the wan Ip that has the ban on it. To be honest I would rather get this fixed the proper way via LL as I feel I should not be punished for someone else actions.

Jacama say's she don't feel getting revenge is right on the person who did this but I sure as heck do..............but I will be good.........maybe....oh alright then I will be good.
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11-12-2008 06:28
Glad to hear it's getting straightened out - I can't believe they deleted your daughter's account without getting some kind of verification first. Are you sure it's gone?
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11-12-2008 06:48
From: HoneyBear Lilliehook
Glad to hear it's getting straightened out - I can't believe they deleted your daughter's account without getting some kind of verification first. Are you sure it's gone?


"Someone said" is enough verification for LL. We've seen enough evidence of that. Now that the OP is back in, I would definitely AR the person who caused the situation. It's not revenge. It's justice.
Charlotte Bartlett
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11-12-2008 07:17
Hello again thanks for the reposts now I understand.

I just checked and apparently Passports are sufficient in terms of verification so you may wish to try them again on that point (different rep different policy?) also if you use Skype to call them on the toll free number it will be Free for you. Perhaps scan those passports now and get them over today it might free it up.

What is your daughter's SL name as people here can check inworld perhaps to see if she still shows? I have not heard of full account deletion unless there is more to the issue than denoted before normally just suspension and then they reactivate. However, I have heard stories of scrambled Inventory :/
Lear Cale
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11-18-2008 08:14
From: Conan Godwin
She hasn't been "shot before the trial", she's been arrested and held on remand. When you are suspected of a crime in real life, the police arrest you before you go to trial don't they? I don't think the criminal justice system would work if they did it the other way around. She has been temporarily suspended pending proof that she is over 18. That is all. All she has to do is prove she is, and she'll be back in. No problem.

This thread is just an attempt to create drama. I approve of it.


No problem?

Well, she and everyone else in the household were "arrested". Without very good evidence. If I call the police and say you've committed a crime, should they run right over, arrest you, and everyone in your household? Too bad for you if you lose your job, or something else valuable to you because you were incarcerated over unsubstantiated claims by some moron (which would be me ;) ). NO PROBLEM!
Conifer Dada
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11-18-2008 08:17
Here's hoping we hear a favourable outcome of this problem soon.
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