Is it goodbye to Aussies?

You will be suggesting we actually have one of those, next.

Where by the way plenty of ISP's already use a cleanfeed and their customers still use Second Life, so nothing for the Aussies to worry about hey

What US Internet? Is this something new?

No. Al Gore invented it. Don't you know?

Oh yeah. I forgot that.

A Brit invented the Web so that's ours, and it's our Web that delivers all the porn

not to mention that one of our largest ISP's 'bigpond' owns around 10 odd sims and anyone on those islands who uses there sevices gets free bandwidth. Telstra (bigpond) would have a heartattck at how many costumers they would loose if SL went down because of some internet do-hicky, anyway, not gonna happen.

Kev won't let us down

-Crunch

I think the boys in Boston might have helped a little bit somewhere along the way.

No thanks, controlling speech is the same as controlling thought. We don't need or want the thought police in the USA.



And Har, why would this upset them, they rolled over and let the government take most of their guns.

Only with the Internet - not with the Web. That's a pure British invention

Yeah - we hucked all their tea in the harbor. No, wait, that had nothing to do with the internet.

Phil: I think Desmond meant content on the internet from the US, being as how LL is a US company. I'm pretty sure he wasn't staking claim to the entire internet on behalf of the USA. Where would he stick the flag? Wait...Don't answer that.

Lol!!!

Via Switzerland you mean

Yup, and notice how we havn't had any lunatics go on a mad rampage, killing everyone, since Howard did that after Port Arthur? And America has had how many in the last 10 years , hmmmmmmmm? Let's not turn this into a race thing again Chris, we know how much you hate Australia, but trolling about it will only cause a whole lot of trouble.

Yep - via Switzerland

Although, doesn't that facility run through 2 countries?

Well,

See,

Its like a series of tubes..

Yep, and it runs under 2 countries I think. Who knows which country he was in at the time he thought hyperlinks up?

Most likely AL Gore was on Air Force 2

*reads the OP* Sheesh why not just build a rocket and send your country to another planet. Or live in a dome under the sea cut off from all life. :/ If i was a aussie i would be leaving after hearing such a thing...

Many countries DO have Freedom of Speech, But recognize that All freedoms have Reasonable Limits. In Your own Nation, Freedom of Speech does Not protect the Rights of a person to Produce and Distribute Child porn, or Yell "Fire" in a crowded Theatre (Where no Fire is actually occuring). The Australian Constitution is similar to the British, and the Canadian. We have our rights, and they Are protected, but they are NOT Absolute.



And Yet, a Sports Commentator was Just Suspended from her Job, and there are calls for her termination (And worse) for Suggesting a certain Black Athlete should be "Lynched in an Ally". If American Freedom of Speech Were Absolute, this could not Occur. Even the American people recognize that there are, or should be Reasonable limits on the things One can or should say, and Certain thoughts that should Not be allowed to be disseminated.

Angel.

theres a huge difference between raping a child, or causing someone to get trampled in your 2 examples over telling a full grown adult they cant look at tittys on the internet




no this was public outcry and delt with by a private company (the broadcaster) its not like she said something disagreeable and the SS kicked in the door and drug her off to a prison

which is what is going to happen to you when someone inside the firewall starts disobeying the law, have fun

altho the idea of having childeren without actually paying attention to them does have its appeal, gawd be a parent and the g-man doesnt have to step in and wipe your ass

Yeah, but it's an opt in system, no kids at my place.........

Well actually my ceiling fans do go anti-clockwise

Well not everyone wants to wear bodyarmor and a holster at the beach. Farmers and legit hunters can still have guns, they weren't banned, you just can't own an AK47 on the premise of roo shooting anymore.
Most of those handed in were only used for annual roadsign hunting trips anyway.
And a gun in the woods doesn't protect you from snakes and funnelwebs.
We don't go out hunting deer & ducks like apparently half the US does.
Our previous gun laws were crap, you could own as many guns as you liked under one licence, they weren't registered, you could pick a private seller from the Saturday paper, give him the money for a military weapon and a bottle of bourbon to skip the licence check.

As an Aussie and proud one at that, who has never had a problem letting fly with my speech, whether i have the freedom to or not , let me correct some in-accuracy's on this subject.

Firstly, the ALP Mandatory ISP filter proposal is still only in proposal form. It is basically an election promise to protect Australian children from pornography or other inappropriate material. The government is currently talking to the ISP's and has no actual groundwork in place on how to implement such a system. Discussions include: would it be a single blanket filter for all isp's, or an individual system for each isp? Will it involve a fraction of websites in the world so therefore be completely ineffective or will it cover so many that it could cause huge unforseen issues? The filter is proposed to have an opt in or opt out system, but of course it could come down to your isp and will it allow you to opt in and out.

If the proposal stated it was ONLY for child pornography and clearly defined related material of that nature it wouldn't be an issue. Australia already has strict laws against child pornography of any sort, online or off. The problem arises from the wording of "OTHER" deemed inappropriate material. The bill is left opened ended and concern is that it could be abused by ultra conservative political parties to censor material "they" deem to be inappropriate.

So.... if the proposal was to be commenced under its current terms, how could it affect Australian's and SL .. simply .. the next media blow up of real or imagined child related problems in SL or any matter that could be deemed inappropriate for viewing by children, would see SL blocked. It would not matter that you need to be 18 to be on SL and the SL age verification scheme would not matter also.

What can an Aussie do if they are concerned enough about it. As someone who has seen how parliament works with such things as this, writing a simple letter to their local parliamentary member opposing the proposed bill will see it squashed in its current form. Don't ring or email as these methods are discounted and don't carry the same weight as someone who has put that postage stamp on an envelope.

Australian's enjoy a lot of freedom of speech and do use it wisely when required. We don't however get all riled up and stressed out about government proposals as we know that to get a proposal to law it will go through legislative committees and be debated and amended countless times .. so what you finally end up with 2 years down the track is completely different from the beginning. When it comes to the internet its a very big "too hard" basket. Enjoy your aussie friends .. no way in hell they will be disappearing.
*grins and say's g'day to my fellow aussie counterparts*

this isnt anything i worry about.
people panicked when australia passed draconian 'internet obscenity' laws a few years back, but it actually had no impact on the average person.