Trouble with Facelight

I do have some questions regarding the facelight object I retrieved today:

1. I was informed that there is a transparent ball on where the object is attached (which would be the nose). I clicked CTRL+ALT+T and I still cannot see it. How do I solve this problem?

2. Is a facelight used to illuminate my skin in a dark club?

The reason why I am asking is because I got hired for a hosting job at a club that sparked my interest, and it is recommended I turn the environment setting to midnight to get the effect.

Any help would be appreciated.

Does it say (worn) in your inventory? If so, does it show that it's worn on your nose? It could be inside your head and you will have to drag it out in front of your face. Have zoomed out to view your entire body? Sometimes a facelight isn't a small object but a large prim a few feet away from your body but invisible.

You could also press ctrl-alt-d to get the advanced menu. Then go to advanced->rendering->info displays->lights and it will show you where all the light sources are. If you have a working facelight you should see the object turn light blue and a yellow bounding box will show how far the light extends.

The other, simple way to see if the face light is worn is to go to your tool bar under view....highlight transparent......most face lights are a sphere worn on the mouth or nose or chin.....that actually hovers out in front of your face.
If you are wearing other items.....like sunglasses or a nose ring.....you can always attach the face light to another area (the quick way to check where attachments are is to go to edit...detach objects......and just scan down and see where/what your avatar has attached to it.) Also.......when you attach something, if you right click and choose "attach to"....you will automatically see what parts of the avatar are available to attach something to.

Face lights are pretty common and many skins come with a face light.....also a lot of hair makers are including a light in the hair (Sirena uses a light attachment in all their hair) If you don't like the effect of the one you're wearing.......there's plenty of freebies.....or just IM me in world....I've a few that I can transfer if you'd like to try a different one.

Serena's facelights can be turned on or off by typing in open chat "/2 light on (off)". Without the quotes of course and either on or off. All her hairs have a notecard telling you that.

All facelights are not created equal. Some have two lights, some three, and the intensity differs between each of them.

In broad daylight, at noon, you need a much brighter facelight to get any effect at all. The problem that arises is that intensity in a dark club will make you light up like a christmas tree. The solution is to have two facelights, one low intensity for night, and one high intensity for noon. That way you won't have a problem.

Serainas makes a freebie set like this that you can find at Spotlight Creations according to Search. I'm sure that you could come up with something similar by testing out the different facelights on the market, but the Serainas works very well.

I use this one: http://www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=382976

Facelights are extremely easy to make. And you can customize them anyway you want too.

I still like the free WL one from Tesla, suggested here on the forums.
It looks good in midnight and w/o being blaring.
...when I am being WL friendly.
which is more often these days, but not! always,
so no pointing and silent screams if you catch me using the Beta WL one from BareRose sometimes, which is good, but brighter.

You can get a fancy facelight like this one. They are not surprisingly, light.

http://flickr.com/photos/29076948@N03/2864052616/

That's not the one I am referring to, Ravenelle.

What I was referring to is the transparent object. Thanks for all your help, folks; and I shall try out most of your suggestions later on.

You can get a freebie 7 light Personal Lighting System facelight from the SL Globe Theater Giftshop, too.

http://slurl.com/secondlife/Skin%20City/188/70/22

What's the point of a 7 light system? The viewer only renders 8 lights, and 2 of those are reserved for the sun & moon.

Agreed

Thank goodness for Advanced > Debug Settings > RenderAttachedLights = FALSE

In the 1.21 viewer

There are 7 different facelights, each spotlighting different features at differing light intensities. Just more choices to fit the ambient light you find yourself in.

I wish someone would explain the hysteria people bring to this issue to me. It's a lightbulb, people! Not global famine!

I'll pass on looking like a white blob (top left) just because some guy thinks it's a good idea to wear a nuclear powered "lightbulb".

Attached lights should just render for yourself and noone else. If people want to turn themselves into a lighthouse it'll only be on their screen at least.

What Kitty said (hilarious/sad pic!), and the more general problem that with only a very limited number of local lights able to be rendered at one time people who walk around with a bunch of light sources attached are like walking electrical brownouts, causing other nearby lights to fail.

If the 7 lights are selectable and not on all at the same time then, that's fine and probably an effective system.

The problem is I have seen more than my share to 7 and even 8 light systems where all of the prims were lit up at maximum intensity with 20 meter radii. That is not a face light it is a roman candle.

And, as Kitty's photo above shows, even one maximum intensity lightbulb can destroy a scene for everyone else.

Did you even read my post (in this thread!) about how facelights need to be used judiciously to not bother anyone? It's a management issue, not a moral issue! It needs education, not knee jerk reaction and scorn!

Honest to God, folks! If you all spent the amount of time on your own lives as you do worrying about mine, you would all be much happier!

P.S. I don't like your hair. It pollutes my visual field. I know everyone agrees with me, so take it off NOW!

Pfft

Ya know, people keep saying that, but I have never seen it happen, and I've spent a lot of time in SL looking at people. But even if it did, and someone made the mistake of doing it, so what? The world will not end. No children or animals will die. If you're going to get so insensed about something, shouldn't it matter at least?

We're not talking human rights, here, folks! We're talking *facelights*....

/me looks heavenward in despair....

More like "horribly bad ones are extremely easy to make, and they bug the bejezus out of anybody who has local lights enabled."

Danielle, if you're set on using a face light, you should really make sure to enable Local Lighting - it's in Preferences, under the Graphics tab. You might have to tick the Advanced (Custom?) checkbox to see it.

If you don't do this, you'll have no idea how you look and could well be really annoying everybody around you that has done it.


It may be difficult to spot. The amount of light emitted doesn't really have anything to do with the size of the object - some are difficult to spot.

Try turning on Advanced -> Rendering -> Info Displays -> Lights. This will make all light-source prims, invisible or not, glow sorta greenish and you'll see boxes around them which show how big of an area they're lighting.


That's one reason. Some people wear them all the time to hide shadows on their shape/skin.

A good facelight should just add a little bit of light to your face. Sadly, many of them work very hard at lighting up the entire room.



Do you have local lights enabled??


Yep. Screw the other poeple. Who cares if their experience suffers because you have no idea what you're wearing does to their view of things?

Yes.





I say hang the bastards!

Pfft

Seconded. Uh, wait...does the facelight go off if its owner is dead? Oh wow...I can picture it now...a cemetery where most of the plots are garishly lit up from below...

And that is why I like the new debug setting to turn off rendering attached lights. That way the people that want to look like roman candles can do so all they want and I don't have to see it.

The downside is that it also turns off any lights that I might happen to attach so, as with having local lights turned off entirely, one has to be aware so they are not causing the very effect they complain about others doing.

I completely agree with Aebleskiver that this is more of an educational issue and a matter of degree. There are some well made facelights out there that do a nice job of overcoming the lighting issues we all see.

But there are so many bad ones out there and, yes, I have seen the effect of facelights turning off the local lighting created by the venue builder.

Facelights, by themselves, are not bad things. But people really do need to pay attention to the effect they have on their surroundings.

People can and do abuse pretty much anything. This is just one example.

I dunno but apparently people at Avilion get their panties in a twist over facelights. I bought Sirena hair months ago and really had no idea it came with a face light. It just isn't something I ever really thought or cared about, and didn't read instructions because IT'S HAIR. How hard is it to wear hair?

Anyway, I showed up wanting to dance and was screamed at by four different people "Turn off your facelight. It detracts from our experience here OMGZ". Funny. Nobody ever complained anywhere else.

Certainly a lot of vitriol for people wearing facelights. Not everyone who wears one looks like a roman candle, and many times they make an enormous difference in your appearance. I use FaceFX Designer and it works quite well. I do carry a freebie facelight around though because my normal one freezes up in "no script" zones.

It's all really dependent on how the lighting is done where you are at. Sometimes I look ok without a facelight, even in relatively dark areas. Sometimes I look like a creature of darkness. Having a facelight that lets you adjust the intensity on the fly is nice.



That, is almost enough to make me avoid going there. Did you have a nuclear light bulb on, or just a normal, subdued facelight? People really need to chill the eff out imo.