New news on the possible fate of landbots

Well I dont specifically ask for permisssion to scan thier land or thier objects, the land scanning is a neccessity for accounting, and the object scanning is a typical function in estate tools.
I dont think gathering the information should be banned, but rather what is done with that information that should have limitations. Sheepbots biggest mistake was making it an opt out program and not an opt-in

Implied consent in your case.

But I disagree, Sheepbot's scanning was a violation of privacy. That was it's biggest problem.

Well if it would have been a opt-in program it would have been 100% consent, Hell if it was opt-in it might have been the best "plugin" ever introduced to SL. It just goes to show you , that no matter how technically smart you are, you need to be people smart to make it successful. techno geeks are masters of code, but to make thier product palatable to the average person, its deployment has to be trusted to someone who's talent is people

QFT

LL

opt-in would have been dead in the gate. imagine if google were spawned as an opt-in system. nobody would have ever heard of it.

Perhaps but at least they should let you know the system was running and tell you how to opt out if need be, and to make it relatively easy. Things ESC did not do.

That is their problem not mine. Just means they need to spend some money on advertising.

That is a matter of opinion and interpretation.

That kind of privacy is not guaranteed in the Tos/CS.

There's nothing in the ToS/CS that implies that it is prohibited to scan for items marked for sale and then post the results public in an external venue.

(unless it's changed dramatically since last I read it.)

To me it's always seemed geared towards our right to be free of harassment.. not our right to be free from observation.

It can be an invasion of privacy and not violate any TOS/CS rules.

Back in the old days you would call it respect for others.

Don't worry its quaint and anachronistic nowadays.

Obviously ESC had some respect for others and their creative efforts, otherwise, why would they bother searching and listing their stuff for sale?

Respect manifests in different ways.

--
And take extra care with strangers,
even flowers have their dangers.
And though scary is exciting...
"Nice" is different than "good".
-- Red Robin Hood - "Into the Woods"

That wouldn't be respecting their privacy though.

Yes. And one way would have been to tell people they were going to do it, give those who chose not to be a part of it the opportunity to remove themselves, make sure the thing worked properly, and when finally called out on it, to not be arrogantly, and condescendingly defensive when people took exception to the whole thing. In my opinion.

There are countries where it is not illegal to, for example, molest small children and trade in child porn, or commit canniblaism, because it did not occur to the authorities they needed to prohibit such things. So since these things do not violate the "TOS" of those countries, it makes those things all right there, I suppose? And if LL had not thought of such monstrous things and banned at least some of them, that would make them all right in SL too, right?

Do you realize yet how fundamentally immoral and inhuman your position is, Jopsy? You don't? Then look into yourself and be as disgusted as you would then richly deserve to be.