Encroachment

I recently purchased a small parcel adjacent to my existing land. There is an object encroaching upon my land from a neighboring parcel. I know that it is over the line because when I placed a wall along the property line, the object extends through it. However, I am not able to return it and it doesn't disappear when the autoreturn is set. Any ideas?

The majority of the object (>50%) would need to be on your land in order for you to be able to return it. IM the owner and ask them to move it. If they respond negatively or you don't hear back in a reasonable period of time, AR it.

If the owner of the object or parcel its on wont help you then all you can do is Abuse Report it.

The Lindens will Correct such cases.

Response might be slow right now though due to the ad-farm Ar / Slash and burn fest currently underway. A lot of ARs for LL to sort through right now.

Try AR but this may take time, i have such a neighbor myself wich is constantly grieving my property with his crap and blocking my business.
unfortunate lindens seem to be real busy and it may take a few weeks before they move it
and only minutes after something is removed he just places new junk over the property edge.
i guess you just have to live with such idiots and get used to junk on your parcel.

First try to contact the owner of the object. He or she may not even be aware it over your land (happened to me once). Give the owner time to respond.

If no reaction or negative reaction contact Linden.

Morwen.

It's important to try and sort it out with the neighbour first. Get a log of the communication.

If it has go to AR then a summary of
"Parcel Encroachment - Neighbour refuses to move it"
would likely get more attention than a simple "Parcel Encroachment"

If there is a recurrence of encroachment after AR action, then the summary on the AR should note that too.
Include the previous ticket numbers in the AR.

Get a few friends to AR at the same time.

Abuse staff are busy. Make it as easy as possible for them to notice your AR and to understand the core facts immediately.

I would have to concur with the other posters.....ask your neighbour first and if he/she is unwilling to co-operate, then file an AR... But definitely keep a clear record of all communications, messages etc.

Encroachment is extremely frustrating.....I sympathise with you....
Good luck with it and I hope you get things..to use those immortal words we all love...RESOLVED!

Dont "live with it" the only way to fight it is to document, document, document... send any new AR with refs to the old AR's and let them know that this is a repeated offence, also include how soon after the last one the new object appears.

ahh the joys of living on the mainland....just another reason I live on private estates with a covenant. sure its more expensive but I dont have to deal with this s**t

Yeah, there are gated communites in RL for people like you.

LMAO! I dont live in a gated community. Nor would I. But the forums are filled with stories like the OP's. And...if its not encroachment its the lag, if its not the lag its the griefing, if its not the griefing its the ad farms. etc etc etc.

Really the only advantage to living on the mainland is....wait...im trying to think of one... oh I have it...is it your private estate land might be taken from you? Try not paying the rent or land taxes in RL and see what happens. Its just happens a bit faster here.

I've owned a mainland parcel for close to a year now, and I love it! The sim I'm in has no land for sale, currently, and hasn't in quite some time. Since I've been there, I have yet to see any 16M plots. Maybe they exist, but I haven't seen any, and I've flown or ridden my horse all around the sim. In the year that I've been there, I've never met a griefer there, I've never had a problem with neighbors, I've never had a problem with someone littering up my land, but I keep my auto return set at 30 minutes.

I just hate to see mainland get bashed all the time, because a lot of it is free of the problems that are prevalent on some mainland sims.

To the OP, I'd IM your neighbor and let them know that one of their prims is encroaching on your property. There are unreasonable people in SL, sure, but most just want to do their own thing and not cause any problems for others. If they don't respond (and give them time to get to your IM or notecard), or respond in a negative fashion, then filing an AR would be your best bet.

You really do catch more flies with honey then with vinegar, though. Good luck!

QFT

I also agree that a friendly IM will probably solve the problem.

LL did mention (I forget what blog post) that they were working on the encrouchment issue for landowners. In such that LL wants to allow landowners to return objects that are over parcel lines in any way. Removing the requirement for the center of mass of the prim to be on your parcel, as it is now.

From what I gather, the only holdback is the technical side. LL wants to make sure that no glitches are in this one that let neighbors return objects that they shouldn't be able to.

While I'd love this feature asap, I'm very happy to wait until they get it right. It's not a solution to this problem (yet), but is a light at the end of the tunnel for the future ^.^

~Jessy

And it would be the neighborly thing to do.

QFT again. Contrary to what some enterprising private estate landlords would like everyone to believe, not all mainland is crap.

To the OP, I agree with the others that it's best to IM the neighbor first. They may not know there's a problem and you might actually get faster results.

--Hugsy

I had the same problem. This person had some huge rocks coming onto my property from hers from the neighboring sim. I IMed her and politely asked her to back them up because I was going to develop that piece of property and couldnt see my property line. Well she didn't reply and instead banned me lol.

I didn't AR her instead I opened a ticket and asked LL if they could please remove the rocks and within 24 hours the rocks were gone, a BIG Thank You to Frontier Linden.

While most probably wouldn't have said anything back to the person who banned me and I dont know if I was muted as well I just couldnt resist asking her if she put her things on her neighbors property in RL like it was her own? Then I said, I am guessing so and thanks for being such a nice neighbor and for the ban

If she puts them back I will open another ticket and then the AR starts. All I know is opening a ticket worked alot faster then the AR does.

I sent three messages to the property owner (1 IM and 2 Notes), then sent two ARs, one week apart. Does it typically take them a long time to check into these things? Do you think they will get to it eventually? Thanks

also remember that some mega prims will leave footprints on the minimap that show as overlapping onto your land when infact they arent.

~Lana

I had a megaprim encroachment on my property about a month ago. It was there by squatters on the land next to me and they ignored my requests. Once I AR'd them LL removed the object within a couple of days. It was more than just a little encroachment though, it was blocking nearly all the airspace above my parcel. I had to fly to my neighbors to get around it.

Hmm well the main one is I didn't pay $50,000L to someone who might do a runner tommorrow with it

I have been on mainland for well over a year, and would never bother to live on a private estate (unless of course the owner wanted to let me live there rent free, then I would use it to build LOL)

I would rather risk living on mainland than risk putting my money into some fly by night sim owner...

(at least SL has a few years under their belt)

not saying all sim owners are fly by night, just like not all of the mainland is trash

Try getting a few people together and have everybody AR an encroaching prims at the same time.
Remember to state that you have tried to contact the other landowner and had no response.

can you move the front of your store to the other side?

Oh my, well some people, like your neighbours deserve an AR!

I have been lucky and only ever had to IM someone once about a slight encraochment and they profusely apologised. Likewise, I had inadvertently encroached on a neighbours land when I rezzed something on a platform to toy with - they were online at the time and immediately IM'd me with a polite request to remove as she was so low on spare prims and of course I apologised and removed the offending bits immediately...I don't like to encroach on others land any more than them to encroach on mine. More people should remember to treat others how they would like to be treated themselves.

Meanwhile in RL, in the UK, if a neighbours plant overhangs onto your property, you are entitled to cut the overhanging bits off back to your boundary line, but you by law have to fling the cuttings over the fence back into the owners gardens! LOL