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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
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09-08-2009 07:17
This whole thread pegs my surreal-meter. Gonna go hide.
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Abigail Merlin
Child av on the lose
Join date: 25 Mar 2007
Posts: 777
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09-08-2009 07:27
Anyway, this whole experience has taught me a very important lesson. If as an animated character in a virtual world, it is naturally assumed that I am a pedophile because I want to adopt a computer generated image of a little girl, controlled by a basic computer program, what would happen I tried to adopt a child in real life. I would probably go to jail or be killed. That is why everyone natural assumed that Michael Jackson was a pedophile, just because he liked children, and that is something no big man should do. No, big men are supposed to spend their time chasing women and engaging in brutish behaviour. That is what being a man is all about, according to society! Yep it took a lot longer for gay couples where alowed to adopt a child then it was for single women in the netherlands, even longer then same sex mariage and even now a lot of countries will not assist in gay couples adopting. |
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Scylla Rhiadra
Gentle is Human
Join date: 11 Oct 2008
Posts: 4,427
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09-08-2009 07:37
No, big men are supposed to spend their time chasing women and engaging in brutish behaviour. That is what being a man is all about, according to society! Well, unfortunately, a really significant proportion of the men, in SL anyway, DO spend their time "chasing women and engaging in brutish behaviour." And yes, it is culturally determined. This doesn't justify the tendency to stereotype men in this way, but it goes a long way towards explaining why it happens. Please don't misunderstand me, and think that I am suggesting that all men are like this; I wouldn't even want to suggest that a majority are. But it is common enough to have generated the stereotype. And I am, of course, well aware of how generalizations, even well-documented ones, become falsehoods when applied to individuals. And I DO know many men, in RL and SL, who are admirably free of this kind of thinking. (In fact, MOST of the men I know in RL and SL are free of it, because I don't much care to associate with those who are not.) _____________________
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Void Singer
Int vSelf = Sing(void);
Join date: 24 Sep 2005
Posts: 6,973
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09-08-2009 08:34
![]() amen to that (and perfect that they used Bruce Campbell for the pic) _____________________
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TundraFire Nightfire
Permafrostbilly
Join date: 5 Apr 2008
Posts: 532
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09-08-2009 11:45
amen to that (and perfect that they used Bruce Campbell for the pic) If they make a 20ish Bruce Campbell doll, I'm forgoing the whole creepy thing. I want one! _____________________
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Naughty Dreamscape
Registered User
Join date: 22 Apr 2008
Posts: 81
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09-21-2009 05:55
Hey everyone,
I thought id set the record straight about KidsBots and some of the questions brought up here. 1) We do NOT record Local Chat. Our kids are able to use ALICE Technology to respond to IMs that they are sent, on their own. These IMs to the bot are stored by ALICE and can be accessed if need be. We also have a record of any animations that they use. We have no interest in watching conversations all day long of people we dont even know. This helps in the event that it is reported to LL or to us, that the bot was used in a manner that may be against the TOS. Also, really, when you IM anyone in SL, you are taking the chance that the IM is logged on the user's computer. Its an option that everyone in SL has in their options. Again, Local Chat is NOT recorded in any way. This was told clearly to the origional poster, but he decided to post otherwise here. 2) Our bots are kid AVIs. Its just that simple. We dont want them involved in ANY adult situation. We have taken many precautions to ensure that they dont... From perminant skins with clothing painted on them, interviews with potiental adopters, how to report bad conduct info on their profiles, etc. LL's TOS is very specific what child avatars can and can not do. We have to take measures to make sure that we are in compliance in order to stay in business. 3) There are lots of great avenues of adopting a kid in SL. These certainly arent a replacement for kids with real people behind the avatar. This is just another option for people to enhanse their SL experience. Note: The origional posters adoption was denied for two reasons: 1) He was a single guy who told us he wanted to use the bot to "Pick up the ladies". I didnt feel that that was what our kids adoptions are intended for... But the main reason... 2) After being asked SEVERAL times if he accepted our TOS (which is designed to keep our kids save and in complance with LL's TOS), he kept dancing around to avoid saying yes. After asking over and over, it just didnt seem like a good fit. 99% of our KidsBots adoptions are completed easily. But if anyone refuses to acceot our TOS, there is no way we can complete the adoption. If anyone has any questions, please feel free to IM me. ![]() |
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Marcel Flatley
Sampireun Design
Join date: 29 Jul 2007
Posts: 2,032
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09-21-2009 06:00
Naughty,
Since I do not know your business well enough, I cannot say much about it. Except one thing: Use an alt for this line of business. Your nick (plus your other live of business, if I remember well) combined with child bots is asking for trouble to happen. Marcel _____________________
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Dakota Tebaldi
Voodoo Child
Join date: 6 Feb 2008
Posts: 1,873
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09-21-2009 06:16
That is why everyone natural assumed that Michael Jackson was a pedophile, just because he liked children, and that is something no big man should do. No, people didn't assume Michael Jackson was a pedophile just because he "liked children". Most people in the world like children. _____________________
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Naughty Dreamscape
Registered User
Join date: 22 Apr 2008
Posts: 81
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09-21-2009 06:18
I can appreciate that Mercel. But I have been around here a long time, tons of people know me and know that im a stand up person. Unfortunitly in business, we can please everyone.
My name here is what it is, I made it long ago, and unfortunitly SL wont let us change it. People who hide their businesses, usually have something to hide. I believe in my products and im not gonna hide from them. Thats totally not my style. The solution is pretty simple... lol Those who dont like my name, or dont like my product... Please, for the love of god, DONT BUY THEM. lol Even though the poster left out why he was denied and lied about the chat being logged, most likely cause he was upset he was denied. Im kinda glad he posted it. Yea, it will cause a little drama in my life, but it also shows that we do, indeed, intend for our kids to be used for good purposes. On that note, this will be my last post about KidsBots. Enjoy SL everyone, thats what this place is supposed to be all about. ![]() |
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Tarina Sewell
Just Browsing Thank you
Join date: 20 Jul 2007
Posts: 2,180
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09-21-2009 06:30
Basically the entire world is paranoid. Sl seems to take it to the extreme though. There must be other agency's that offer the same product but with less interrogation. Why not offer a kid av a title to join you're family? Don't close off you're options.because of one paranoid schizo. Well, I am totally clueless because I thought the children on SL were played by adults... bot you say? hmm... is this like a little prim baby or such that cries and such? Tells you when it has poopie diaper and whatnot? How coudl one abuse something that is programed to only do certian tasks? ![]() |
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Treasure Ballinger
Virtual Ability
Join date: 31 Dec 2007
Posts: 2,745
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09-21-2009 07:31
I can appreciate that Mercel. But I have been around here a long time, tons of people know me and know that im a stand up person. Unfortunitly in business, we can please everyone. My name here is what it is, I made it long ago, and unfortunitly SL wont let us change it. People who hide their businesses, usually have something to hide. I believe in my products and im not gonna hide from them. Thats totally not my style. The solution is pretty simple... lol Those who dont like my name, or dont like my product... Please, for the love of god, DONT BUY THEM. lol Even though the poster left out why he was denied and lied about the chat being logged, most likely cause he was upset he was denied. Im kinda glad he posted it. Yea, it will cause a little drama in my life, but it also shows that we do, indeed, intend for our kids to be used for good purposes. On that note, this will be my last post about KidsBots. Enjoy SL everyone, thats what this place is supposed to be all about. ![]() We at Virtual Ability, have the Alice technology in a monkey. His name is Bob and he's on our orientation island, chatting up new residents as they come by on our training course, as they learn to walk, fly, open a box, etc. He swings from a tree, grabs a banana, peels and eats it as he chats up the new residents. These bots really arent that terribly interactive, although they 'learn' somewhat, based on what is said to them. Mostly they repeat/rephrase whatever it is you said. (For example, every time anyone says 'LOL' to our Bob, he responds 'I'm glad you find that amusing'. Because 'LOL' is a trigger for that response. He can be frustrating, and has had several people cuss him out, because his responses are so ambiguous and generic. He also throws stuff back at you like if you ask him, what time is it, he'll respond, What time do YOU think it is? lol. He's fun for a minute but I wouldn't want a kid chatting me like that, would get old pretty quickly. Just an opinion on the Alice technology, really, not looking to have kids in SL anyway. ![]() |
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Melita Magic
On my own terms.
Join date: 5 Jun 2008
Posts: 2,253
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09-21-2009 07:45
Note: The origional posters adoption was denied for two reasons: 1) He was a single guy who told us he wanted to use the bot to "Pick up the ladies". I had to Lol a bit at that one. This is why I take outraged threads with a teeny grain of salt. |
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Jig Chippewa
Fine Young Cannibal
Join date: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 5,150
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09-21-2009 08:11
Yes. And paranoia over sex in general, paranoia over perceptions, paranoia over ...fill-in-the-blank... Welcome to Virtual 1984. ![]() Yeah, agreed. There's even a good dose of Fahrenheit 451 thrown in. Watch out for the Thought Police! oooh a strategic post, I got the top of a page! ![]() _____________________
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Jig Chippewa
Fine Young Cannibal
Join date: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 5,150
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09-21-2009 08:15
Really? (In best Mrs Solcombe voice from "Are You Being Served?" ![]() _____________________
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
Posts: 4,694
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09-21-2009 08:17
Naughty, Since I do not know your business well enough, I cannot say much about it. Except one thing: Use an alt for this line of business. Your nick (plus your other live of business, if I remember well) combined with child bots is asking for trouble to happen. Marcel "Naughty" is far far away from a sexual term and best worn like a badge for kid AVs. It's right up there with "brat". Ooh... "Naughty brat!" (^_^)y ![]() _____________________
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Jig Chippewa
Fine Young Cannibal
Join date: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 5,150
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09-21-2009 08:21
I remember being called "Naughty" for poking holes in the screen door and things like that. (^_^) One more reason why I don't have kids. _____________________
Fine Young Cannibal
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Scylla Rhiadra
Gentle is Human
Join date: 11 Oct 2008
Posts: 4,427
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09-21-2009 08:40
... a really significant proportion of the men, in SL anyway, DO spend their time "chasing women and engaging in brutish behaviour." Really? (In best Mrs Solcombe voice from "Are You Being Served?" ![]() Uh huh. (I HATED that show . . . !) _____________________
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Rihanna Laasonen
Registered User
Join date: 22 Nov 2006
Posts: 287
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09-21-2009 08:41
I don't get the appeal of avatar-bots, at all.
I can definitely see the appeal for playing around with an AI, but that would mean having scripts I could play with myself, not relying on some company to control them. If you want a kid without the hassle of being a full-time RP parent, why not just adopt a normal child av and be up front about the fact that you don't want to RP full time? I actually gave up on running my child av largely for that reason -- she wouldn't have been available more than a few hours a week at most, and the adoptive parents listed all seemed to be looking for a full-time RP commitment. I would have jumped at the chance if someone had said they only wanted a part-time kid. If there's a market for kid-bots, I'd imagine there's a fair few people who want to be part-time parents -- and probably the same number of people who'd like to be part-time kids. And I'm seeing more and more employee-bots these days too. Other than for themed greeters like Treasure described, why not hire real people? More trouble to manage, sure, but less trouble from people who don't realize that av is a bot, get annoyed when she doesn't answer their questions, and then go badmouth your business elsewhere. It's not like there's a shortage of people who'd be glad for a job that isn't camping or stripping. *is confused at this trend* _____________________
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
Posts: 4,694
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09-21-2009 09:14
One more reason why I don't have kids. I had a guy tear up my screens last year... He's in prison now on multiple breaking, entering, and theft charges. (^_^)y _____________________
Somewhere in this world; there is someone having some good clean fun doing the one thing you hate the most. (^_^)y
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Treasure Ballinger
Virtual Ability
Join date: 31 Dec 2007
Posts: 2,745
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09-21-2009 09:27
All kinds of things can tear up screens. At a soul food gathering at my house one New Year's, a little girl threw up on my screen door; ate right through the metal.
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Patasha Marikh
Here to watch the show
Join date: 27 Oct 2006
Posts: 294
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09-21-2009 09:57
All kinds of things can tear up screens. At a soul food gathering at my house one New Year's, a little girl threw up on my screen door; ate right through the metal. ![]() Was her name Regan? _____________________
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Treasure Ballinger
Virtual Ability
Join date: 31 Dec 2007
Posts: 2,745
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09-21-2009 10:16
Was her name Regan? Actually her name is Treasure. She's a niece and is named after me. Treasure or Treas is my rl nickname. |
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Jig Chippewa
Fine Young Cannibal
Join date: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 5,150
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09-21-2009 10:23
An adult can do it too. (^_^) I had a guy tear up my screens last year... He's in prison now on multiple breaking, entering, and theft charges. (^_^)y More proof! See what kids can end up becoming???? _____________________
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
Posts: 4,694
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09-21-2009 11:07
More proof! See what kids can end up becoming???? I bet this all started after eating bread too! =^-^= _____________________
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Katheryne Helendale
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Join date: 5 Jun 2008
Posts: 2,187
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09-21-2009 11:38
All kinds of things can tear up screens. At a soul food gathering at my house one New Year's, a little girl threw up on my screen door; ate right through the metal. ![]() Ewwww!!! What the hell are you all feeding her??? ![]() lol _____________________
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