Dishonest vendors

No. Grossly open to abuse and slandering innocent businesses.

When it comes to vehicles and HUDs and well any object now even, if I cant see it inworld or is no demo then I just dont buy it. Same with skins and expensive clothes, accessories and animations. I dont buy stuff off the packaging anymore. I want to see stuff now before I do. Is perfectly possible for retailers to do this and if they dont then I just goto the next shop that does.

Well his yachts are all there in his sim to walk on and inspect,which i did at the time,but what you see is not what you always get,it seems to be a crap shoot as to what you get after you buy it and rez it
Maybe there is a fault in the way it rezzes,it seems to give different purchasers different problems,but the main continuing problem from those who have contacted me is the same,,,missing parts as happened to me
And no response from the vendor when they want it rectified,
It's about 9 months ago since i had my problems with trying to contact him and to this day others are experiencing what i did

i cant speak for this vendor, but i can say that mistakes happen all the time with setting things for sale. in addition, problems happen many times with things once they are rezzed. i have customers call me and tell me something doesnt work that they bought from me only to find out that they are not allowed to use scripts in the area where it was rezzed...yep wont work...but it is not defective. it seems to me that if many people have rezzed this and different parts are missing for each one, it sounds more like a problem on the user end and not on the vendor's part....if it was a vendor mistake i would assume the same parts would be missing each time.

it would have been more helpful for the vendor to contact you and try to work out what the issues are...but i agree...the guy could have been in a coma for all we know.

i agree about not using some sort of forum to badmouth vendors...i have had some pretty upset customers who im sure would love to ream me...but once i figure out what they are talking about....it always turns out to be operator error and not defective products. if there was a way for people to just spew their upset....many good vendors would get blamed for alot of things that really arent their fault.

I have rezzed my present yacht on the homestead i previously had which is also the same sim i rezzed this vendors yacht,all went well with my present yacht
When i moved to my present homestead i rezzed my new yacht,again with no problem
Seems to me there is a problem with the product if it does'nt rez properly in different sims.
I agree,its not nice to bad mouth vendors and i'm not in the habit of doing that,i have bought many dresses only to find when i put them on they fit like crap and can't modify them to look good,but for the small amount of lindens wasted i just shrug it off
I have 90 outfits made up in my inventory so it gives you an idea of how much i spend on dresses.
Hair and shoes and jewelry,skins,shapes etc i never have problems with
Just seems to me to be a never ending problem with this vendor though,as i said i don't care i'm not looking for anything from him anymore,i just feel sorry for the continuing problems others are having like i did,,, as i said my problem was 9 months ago and still people are spending thousands for his product and unable to get any contact with him
Even if it is a sim problem surely he should make himself available to help remedy any concerns his customers are have like the majority of sl vendors do

Thats my whole point,you make yourself available to your customers if they have problems with your products
Anyway what operator error can there be when all you do is just rez the product,once you start the rez process it's out of your hands and completes itself
I once saw on a group message on sl im.the person had tried to contact a vendor and got no response,,,,,i said as many have said here,be patient the person does'nt come online everyday.
I had the same problem as this person so i knew this vendor would do all she could to help once she came on line and saw the message
If a vendor is selling products they should make themselves available to their customers,it's not as if they don't try enough to contact him
This vendor is the only one i have come across on sl that gives such poor service to his customers

Thats not good.
And nor is this. Seems to me hes copping out like lots vendors do when changes are made to the software that breaks stuff. Just lay the blame on LL and do nothing. The I didnt break it, LL did, so go hassle them about it. If is just a break in the rezzer script then is a simple fix for this. So Im not understanding him here if its been going on this long.

Well thank you,finally someone who has a little sympathy for his frustrated customers,i see on this thread too many people on the side of this vendor
I'm not dumping on all vendors here and i think a lot got defensive,giving me this reason and that reason for his lack of action.
The truth is i tried for over a month to contact him then gave up nine months ago and to this day i am getting im;s from others who are experiencing what i did
I remember when i first saw his product,ohhhhhhh i loved it and wanted it so bad,i had a house on my homestead so if i wanted the yacht the house would have to go
So i got rid of the house and got the boat,intending to use it as a home,the parts i was missing were'nt that critical,the entire floor between the 3rd and 4th floor and the large set of stairs at the back,and no floor in the theatre,if you stepped in there you went plop into the ocean
It is a bare bones boat nice on the outside,not very fancy on the inside so i went about putting walls up and making it home like,we lived on it for about 4 months
Of course once i saw my present boat,well it was like night and day,no comparison,it is a truly elegant yacht and in my picks as much as i give a bad review for the vendor who is the subject here,i give a very good review of my present yacht vendor for three reasons
A truly beautiful product,ease of rezzing it with the proper tools to rez it properly in the right place and position,and excellent after purchase service

I understand completely..there is nothing worse than a bad transaction or getting half a product..

sure the vender could have RL issues that are keeping them out of SL..there could be tons of reasons for the lack of response..

Still with all that if it is sitting in world and people are still getting a bad product or it is just sittig there taking money..then show or no show it should at least be taken out of world ..when the owner comes back in world they can fix their faulty product..

I really do think LL should have a way to pull venders that are doing a dishonest sale or faulty sale because either the owner has not returned or is just pulling a scam..

because the owner has not came back in a month or a year is beside the point that there is a bad vender sitting in world taking money and not delivering on it's end..

what makes it different than a ginko?? it's all money being flushed down the drain on one end.

I agree,people buy the product in good faith and it's up to the vendor to make themselves
available for his/her customer's concerns
To those who think i'm "bad mouthing" this vendor,do you think it's right for people to spend thousands of lindens for a defective product,it's been 9 months now that i know of,maybe it's longer and it's still going on,the product sits there being bought over and over and the vendor no where in sight to look after dissatisfied customers
People get so frustrated firing off notecards and im's only to get no response or satisfaction

Yes. Stuff has to work as advertised. If something that under say Havok1 doesnt work anymore under Havok4 then it should not be permitted to continue be offered for sale. I not talking about stuff that doesnt meet the buyers expectation of whats advertised. I just mean stuff that is broken, incomplete or just plain isnt what is advertised. Like you say it doesnt matter if the vendor is inworld or not. If the product is broken then it should be removed by LL. The vendor can always fix it, or make something similar that does work, if they want to continue selling.

Just about everyone. Or at least anyone with the time to post here also has the time to research. What's the rush?

For really cheap stuff, it's not worth fretting. But for expensive stuff, if you can't get a demo and didn't get a recommendation, think twice. If it's something unique but you can't find anyone else with experience, try asking the vendor a question before you buy. That will tell you how responsive they are.

You go right ahead and bad mouth them all you need to, it's perfectly understandable. No need to apologize to anyone.

Buying garbage being passed off as merchandise and getting no responses from vendors is the norm in sl. But complain and almost immediately you'll see all the defense lawyers come forth to make excuses for these slimebags.

Yes, there are good people out there who'll back their products but for each one there are many more who knowingly sell defective products then won't answer when called upon. Regardless of how many excuses are made for these vendors, more and more customers are begining to see what the reality is when buying from them.

if this is a rezzer issue, has op tried to manually drag the linksets out? or even repackge them in an updated rezzer?

I assume op is me,well i'm just a customer buying a product,i expect it to rez properly,i don't know what a linkset is or an updated rezzer
I just open the package like everything else and rez what i'm suppose to rez
I have had the opportunity to rez two different yachts from two different vendors,the first being the subject here,it is a very big boat and rezzing in a narrow area is a crapshoot as to which way it will face with this vendor
My present yacht which is a bit bigger comes with guages to place in the water and adjust before rezzing so it rezzes in the exact position one wants.
Maybe ignorance is no excuse but things should rez properly,even if i made a mistake of some sort then others are making the same mistake
We should'nt have to jump hoops just to rez a product,it should just rez like it's supposed to do
Watching my present boat rez is quite a show,i have had to rez it twice now and with no problems but to see it all come out of a little box is lovely to watch,all those pieces flying out of the little box to form a beautiful yacht
As i said,i'm over and done with the subject vendor here ,it's just the people who, after 9 months i had problems contacting him due to his product's in complete rezzing ,i feel sorry for,they contact me asking what they can do to get the other half of the boat which did.nt rezz because they can't get a response from the vendor
He is the one who should be helping his customers with any rezzing problems,making himself available to his customer's concerns.
All his customers get when trying to contact him is silence and a half rezzed boat in some cases and no way to get help or their money back

yes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,are you trying to say something

Work smarter.

Not harder.

Meaning?

Did you try repositioning the rezzer and then re-rezzing the boat?

I know that some boat rezzers only rez properly when facing a certain direction north to south or east to west.

At the time i did that,but if that is the issue he makes no mention of it in his notes,which i always make sure i read before i rez big stuff like that
And if that is the issue then others are making the same mistake,as i said my present boat came with guages,to rez in the position one wants,with no particular direction stated

Agreed, Briana. What the seller did was bad business and I do not approve, but ANY 'resident' run rating system is open to rampant gaming by griefers, jilted lovers, competitors, etc. When I see something like the OP's profile taking a shot at someone over something ages ago SL time I think one of two things 'Hrm, bad breakup' or 'Ah, slandering the competition'. Players using ratings as vengence against others was one of the reasons the old character rating system was useless....annoy some dink and he and 20 of his closest friends that weren't even there neg-rate you.

Sorry OP, unless you paid outrageos sums for supposedly 'designer' items, you just lost what amounts to a McD's value meal, supersized, in USD or less. NOT worth the potential harm to innocents from vindictive people to set up a rating system for this, IMO. I've been burned with unresizeable prim outfits, poorly assembled items (seams visible on prims), etc and I chalked it up to experience, made a note not to buy there again and moved on.

I agree with you that the person should have replied to you for such a large purchase.
Have you checked you haven't accidently put him on your mute list ?

We all understand that your present boat has a far superior rezzing system and is just plain better in every way.
However many people on these forums are around from the days before rezzing systems even existed and are able to tell you how to MAKE it work. We used to have to put up each section of houses manually!
I would be interested in what happens if you tried to rezz it in a script enabled sandbox.
But I think you said you deleted it ..... (your post 04-26-2009, 02:19 AM on this thread)
If so that was hasty and we will never find out what was wrong.

If you read what has been said in past posts,i can't keep recapping in each answer,
I am over and done with this particular vendor,he could give me 6 boats and i would not want them
What i am emphasizing here is a vendor who keeps taking thousands of lindens for his product,that product has rezzing problems for whatever reason
I have people im,ing me wanting to know what they can do,they bought the boat,it rezzed with missing parts,they can't get a response from the vendor
This has been going on for 9 months that i know of
Thats it,i have no vengence against the vendor,just want to warn others,, period
Might be a hamburger to you but some don't have the money to waste on an incomplete boat,and i could give a crap about the money i paid for it,thats not the issue
The price in US$ is approx $40
The issue is a vendor who will not answer his buyer's concerns,i'm glad you advocate that behaviour,but i don't, it's just plain not right
There has to be some accountability somewhere
If you bought a shirt for $40 in the RL and when you got it home and unpacked it you found one arm missing,would you just toss it in the garbage and say"oh well win some lose some",i doubt it,you would go back to the store and demand you're money back or a replacement
But when you got to the store the owner refused to even talk to you and rectify your concerns
Well whats the difference here

Well to add my 2 cents here. I bought about 2k worth of dances from a very popular place (Not naming names, but we all know this place). I come to find out that I neer received any of them. I contacted the owner... never heard anything back. Sent him the transaction history as a notecard... saw him accept it... no response. After awhile I gave up and haven't been back since. Simple fact is this... good owners who respond to issues will have repeat business. Have someone who doesn't respond or care about his/her customers? They won't be back.