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Marcus Perry

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Join date: 22 Nov 2006

Posts: 87

02-15-2009 06:44

Hello Heidi !!

Yes, I remember your OnRez vendors in the dome and occasionally browsed through them when I was standing in CIC.

I am still looking for an alternative to replace my OnRez vendors. Can you recommend Hippovend ? Or are there other recommendations ? I know that probably none of them will be as easy to use as OnRez vendors but if there are good pointers, I'd love to hear them.

(And I could imagine the person who would introduce a web based vendor system similar to OnRez now could make a whole lot of money right now. Too bad I know zero about scripting or web programming.)

SuezanneC Baskerville

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Join date: 22 Dec 2003

Posts: 14,229

02-15-2009 06:50

I was looking for an item, searching with Google, and I followed a product information link and guess where it went: to the default onrez.com site, saying onrez was closed.

Not very good for the sellers, having dead links that will hang around in Google results for a long time.

There might be a more useful way to respond to such links.

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Ghosty Kips

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Join date: 2 May 2008

Posts: 2,386

02-15-2009 07:15

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

There might be a more useful way to respond to such links.

If OnRez took the domain into Webmaster Central, they could put in a request to remove thier domain's linkage from the database themselves.

They should also put the "NO INDEX" parameter in their meta.

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Jojamela Soon

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Join date: 11 Dec 2006

Posts: 6

02-15-2009 07:30

I switched from the onrez vendors to Andy's Hippovend, use other stuff he makes and I like his product (it's less laggy than some other vendors too), setting up the new vendors was a breeze and I did it in just a few minutes.

The biggest pain for me has been moving my product line from Onrez to Xstreetsl. I find the xstreet website to be sooooo slow! I've quit several times already because of the time it was taking to get it done. Thank goodness I don't have as many products as others, what a nightmare that would be.

Ghosty Kips

Elora's Llama

Join date: 2 May 2008

Posts: 2,386

02-15-2009 07:48

From: Jojamela Soon

The biggest pain for me has been moving my product line from Onrez to Xstreetsl.

I've never understood why so many didn't do both.

Although my sales at OnRez never came close to what I get on XStreet. Just saying, my sales are better there.

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MortVent Charron

Can haz cuddles now?

Join date: 21 Sep 2007

Posts: 1,942

02-15-2009 08:07

From: Anya Ristow

Yay, one fewer steps to release new products. Not like onrez was really competing, anyway.

A real competitor to xstreet would be one that didn't allow people to post page after page of the same damned thing. One that didn't have a gamed rating system. One that showed the highest quality stuff first. One that didn't let sellers pick the products to highlight. You know, one that will operate from the perspective of what's most useful to the buyer, not the seller.

You do realize every single one of those complaints against on-rez apply to the replacement...

Page after page of 'demo' products, pages after pages of the same freebie items being resold, anyone able to create an alt account in sl able to vote on the ratings, paid placements...

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LittleMe Jewell

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02-15-2009 08:13

From: Winter Ventura

*buys land next to Atashi and starts cooking artichokes*

I love artichokes.

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SuezanneC Baskerville

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Join date: 22 Dec 2003

Posts: 14,229

02-15-2009 08:54

From: Ghosty Kips

If OnRez took the domain into Webmaster Central, they could put in a request to remove thier domain's linkage from the database themselves.

They should also put the "NO INDEX" parameter in their meta.

Well, as it is, you can look at the Google cached version, once you realize you're not going to find it an OnRez, and find out who made it.

One approach could have been to ask the merchants for an url to give a link to when a search for their products is made, but I guess that would mean keeping a database of former merchants active, which goes against the grain of having it shutdown.

Ah well, what is done is done.

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So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them.

I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to

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Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard,
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Gabriele Graves

Always and Forever, FULL

Join date: 23 Apr 2007

Posts: 6,205

02-15-2009 18:31

From: Wildefire Walcott

I'm sad that on the day I thought to withdraw all my funds from OnRez I forgot my website password and wasn't able to get in-world. I don't think I had much there, but still.

I didn't even know I had funds there. I must have made sales there but OnRez never informed me of this and I never checked at all. The first I knew was when OnRezRefund Linden dropped me my money - all I can say is WoooHooo!!!!

Snickers Snook

Odd Princess - Trout 7.3

Join date: 17 Apr 2007

Posts: 746

02-15-2009 21:05

From: Winter Ventura

*buys land next to Atashi and starts cooking artichokes*

OMG. For me that's a fate fairly close to using a porta potty.

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Snickers Snook

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Join date: 17 Apr 2007

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02-15-2009 21:13

From: Anya Ristow

But despite a price advantage for sellers, onrez didn't compete. Apparently buyers found xstreet more useful. You and I are apparently a minority.

I had my exact same items listed on both services. I loved the storefront look and vendors I had via Onrez but sales stats don't lie. XStreetSL/SLX outsold Onrez 10 to 1. Maintaining my inventory on XStreet is easier though. I could never figure out why/how Onrez didn't charge any commissions on sales. I guess they were trying to build a base but it sure wasn't a long-term success model.

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I Find Myself Annoyed that ONREZ is Gone
Marcus Perry Registered User Join date: 22 Nov 2006 Posts: 87	02-15-2009 06:44 Hello Heidi !! Yes, I remember your OnRez vendors in the dome and occasionally browsed through them when I was standing in CIC. I am still looking for an alternative to replace my OnRez vendors. Can you recommend Hippovend ? Or are there other recommendations ? I know that probably none of them will be as easy to use as OnRez vendors but if there are good pointers, I'd love to hear them. (And I could imagine the person who would introduce a web based vendor system similar to OnRez now could make a whole lot of money right now. Too bad I know zero about scripting or web programming.)
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	02-15-2009 06:50 I was looking for an item, searching with Google, and I followed a product information link and guess where it went: to the default onrez.com site, saying onrez was closed. Not very good for the sellers, having dead links that will hang around in Google results for a long time. There might be a more useful way to respond to such links. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Ghosty Kips Elora's Llama Join date: 2 May 2008 Posts: 2,386	02-15-2009 07:15 From: SuezanneC Baskerville There might be a more useful way to respond to such links. If OnRez took the domain into Webmaster Central, they could put in a request to remove thier domain's linkage from the database themselves. They should also put the "NO INDEX" parameter in their meta. _____________________ -- Why aren't you doing something more useful, like playing WoW?
Jojamela Soon Venue Owner Join date: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 6	02-15-2009 07:30 I switched from the onrez vendors to Andy's Hippovend, use other stuff he makes and I like his product (it's less laggy than some other vendors too), setting up the new vendors was a breeze and I did it in just a few minutes. The biggest pain for me has been moving my product line from Onrez to Xstreetsl. I find the xstreet website to be sooooo slow! I've quit several times already because of the time it was taking to get it done. Thank goodness I don't have as many products as others, what a nightmare that would be.
Ghosty Kips Elora's Llama Join date: 2 May 2008 Posts: 2,386	02-15-2009 07:48 From: Jojamela Soon The biggest pain for me has been moving my product line from Onrez to Xstreetsl. I've never understood why so many didn't do both. Although my sales at OnRez never came close to what I get on XStreet. Just saying, my sales are better there. _____________________ -- Why aren't you doing something more useful, like playing WoW?
MortVent Charron Can haz cuddles now? Join date: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 1,942	02-15-2009 08:07 From: Anya Ristow Yay, one fewer steps to release new products. Not like onrez was really competing, anyway. A real competitor to xstreet would be one that didn't allow people to post page after page of the same damned thing. One that didn't have a gamed rating system. One that showed the highest quality stuff first. One that didn't let sellers pick the products to highlight. You know, one that will operate from the perspective of what's most useful to the buyer, not the seller. You do realize every single one of those complaints against on-rez apply to the replacement... Page after page of 'demo' products, pages after pages of the same freebie items being resold, anyone able to create an alt account in sl able to vote on the ratings, paid placements... _____________________ ========================================== Bippity boppity boo! I'm stalking you! 9 out of 10 voices in my head don't like you... the 10th went to get the ammo
LittleMe Jewell ........... Join date: 8 Oct 2007 Posts: 11,319	02-15-2009 08:13 From: Winter Ventura buys land next to Atashi and starts cooking artichokes I love artichokes. _____________________ ♥♥♥ -Lil Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it? ~Mark Twain~ Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on. ♥♥♥ Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22 . http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	02-15-2009 08:54 From: Ghosty Kips If OnRez took the domain into Webmaster Central, they could put in a request to remove thier domain's linkage from the database themselves. They should also put the "NO INDEX" parameter in their meta. Well, as it is, you can look at the Google cached version, once you realize you're not going to find it an OnRez, and find out who made it. One approach could have been to ask the merchants for an url to give a link to when a search for their products is made, but I guess that would mean keeping a database of former merchants active, which goes against the grain of having it shutdown. Ah well, what is done is done. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Gabriele Graves Always and Forever, FULL Join date: 23 Apr 2007 Posts: 6,205	02-15-2009 18:31 From: Wildefire Walcott I'm sad that on the day I thought to withdraw all my funds from OnRez I forgot my website password and wasn't able to get in-world. I don't think I had much there, but still. I didn't even know I had funds there. I must have made sales there but OnRez never informed me of this and I never checked at all. The first I knew was when OnRezRefund Linden dropped me my money - all I can say is WoooHooo!!!!
Snickers Snook Odd Princess - Trout 7.3 Join date: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 746	02-15-2009 21:05 From: Winter Ventura buys land next to Atashi and starts cooking artichokes OMG. For me that's a fate fairly close to using a porta potty. _____________________ Buh-bye forums, it's been good ta know ya.
Snickers Snook Odd Princess - Trout 7.3 Join date: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 746	02-15-2009 21:13 From: Anya Ristow But despite a price advantage for sellers, onrez didn't compete. Apparently buyers found xstreet more useful. You and I are apparently a minority. I had my exact same items listed on both services. I loved the storefront look and vendors I had via Onrez but sales stats don't lie. XStreetSL/SLX outsold Onrez 10 to 1. Maintaining my inventory on XStreet is easier though. I could never figure out why/how Onrez didn't charge any commissions on sales. I guess they were trying to build a base but it sure wasn't a long-term success model. _____________________ Buh-bye forums, it's been good ta know ya.

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