I Find Myself Annoyed that ONREZ is Gone

To be honest, I never found much use for it, though I know that others did. I did my window shopping (and very occasional purchasing) on xstreetsl, and I even found that my little freebie was taken by more people on xstreetsl at a ratio of about 10 to 1.

Regardless, I found myself staring at the "blog" which is about all that's left of onrez, and I loath the loss of choice and competition.

If it had been left alone, I would have absolutely no problem with the purchase of xstreet by LL, and all the promised work to integrate the two in new and wonderful ways. I presume The Electric Sheep Company made some money out of the deal, so good for them. But for the rest of us, it seems like a sad week.

I'm still annoyed that it's not SLBoutique. Run by FlipperPa.

And SLuniverse shouldn't be on VBulletin, it should be on Simple Machines, I think it was.

Whoa. I guess this has been done to death across the street then?

I suppose I'll get stuck with the double hit of starting a done-to-death topic, as well as not asking a question in RA. Well, I can fix the latter.

How long before we have smells in SL?

Good smells, I mean. Not basement smells.

OnRez being gone now makes kitty sad. LL made kitty sad!!! Please, Mistress, eat LL.

If they introduce smells, then they'll need to come up with a way to script smells, so you can have llObjectOdour and llDetectedStink calls and things like that, and then we'll need a checkbox on the land properties (probably the media tab) so you can limit smells to this parcel, otherwise smells from next door will come wafting in. Then there's the pure griefing potential, which just makes my head spin... you think a thousand mario cubes is bad, wait till you get a thousand *Stinky* mario cubes...



-Atashi

*buys land next to Atashi and starts cooking artichokes*

I would put on a fantastic smelling barbeque, and then ban everyone from my land. *That's* griefing!

First I need to cook 'em up. On the barbeque.

Mmmmm I like artichokes. I'll bring some spinach and asiago cheese and we'll find someone with some french bread, we'll be all set!

-Atashi

I'm sad that on the day I thought to withdraw all my funds from OnRez I forgot my website password and wasn't able to get in-world. I don't think I had much there, but still.

Well, they have said that they will eventually transfer any remaining L$ from folks' onRez accounts to their SL accounts. What I think is problematic is the idea of shutting down the marketplace, along with all the other (sales, transaction) tools at the same time. So not only do you maybe miss some L$, but you have no way of accessing any sales reports to find out where it came from, and for what.

I can't quite get why it never occured to anyone in charge that they should maybe have stopped sales a few days before shutting it all down completely.

-Atashi

I just checked my transactions from today and I see that I recieved a payment from OnRezRefund Linden. I only had $1 in there and they gave it back to me.

Yay, one fewer steps to release new products. Not like onrez was really competing, anyway.

A real competitor to xstreet would be one that didn't allow people to post page after page of the same damned thing. One that didn't have a gamed rating system. One that showed the highest quality stuff first. One that didn't let sellers pick the products to highlight. You know, one that will operate from the perspective of what's most useful to the buyer, not the seller.

There's still opportunity for such differentiation, because none of those goals are shared by LL, so xsteet isn't going to move in on that territory, should someone claim it.

Automation and democracy are wonderful, but where you're allowed to vote as often as you like, or vote with money (anyone think classified-style bidding for xstreet listing enhancements isn't coming?), you don't really have democracy. You just have automation, which is easy to game.

So, don't think of the passing of onrez and the GOMming of xstreet as the elimination of competition. They operated too much alike and too much in line with LL's strategies, anyway. Lumping them all together just highlights the glaring lack of a different way of solving the problem. That's an opportunity that's still available.

Woohoo, just got my refund as well!

Be sure and run them over with the car first, then cut them up before you throw them on the BBQ. We dont want them to try and jump off. Besides I think its legal women do it to their husbands all of the time. me loves LL

I disagree strongly. Xstreet, for one, is a personal website that does not sell SL products. Oh, XstreetSL? I still disagree strongly.

XStreetSL is just plan unusable for me. Bloody hard to search for and find stuff. Very hard on the eyes.

I never used XStreetSL unless I really had to do so, therefore OnRez was a strong competitor to XStreetSL.

Have no idea why you were bringing LL into it pre-purchase. LL, for the most part, did not sell things as itself (except, obviously, land; and it also gave away a bunch of items made by Moles through Bay City and Nautilus City). You are talking about a platform and a sellor.

As a buyor, not a sellor, I find XStreetSL to not meet my needs, while I found OnRez to be a great service.

To those who mourn the passing of OnRez, maybe this little thought will help:

Wether they will have a vendor system or not, XStreet/Linden Labs is missing out on a huge ammount of Linden Dollars in sales commisions because they dont offer a vendor system like OnRez had.

All the people who relied on the OnRez inworld vendor system now have to switch to a new system like Hyppo or another already established vendor system.
Should Lindens ever introduce a vendor system like OnRez had for XStreet, how many of these people would switch over to that ? Another large group of people and more loss of potential sales comissions.

Yay?

Perhaps we disagree less than you think. I also find xstreetsl not entirely useful, for the reasons I listed. It's another free-for-all, with gaming and paid placement. Not terribly unlike LL's strategy toward...everything.

But despite a price advantage for sellers, onrez didn't compete. Apparently buyers found xstreet more useful. You and I are apparently a minority.

There's an opportunity for someone to differentiate themselves building a site that caters to buyers needs, at the expense of being fair and equal-opportunity to sellers. The differences between onrez and xstreet were technical. It wasn't enough. They shared the same equal-opportunity, seller-centric approach.

hehe, yay, hehe

I never used either one of them, but generally speaking I am a advocate of as many choices in business as possible. Competition brings out the best and forces a rise from mediocrity and compmlacency.

Color me bummed that OnRez is gone as well. I agree with Brenda on more choices the better.

I only have a tiny shop with a small amount of products, but I got a decent amount of sales from OnRez.

While we're on the subject of being bummed out...(threw this in for good measure) I'm bummed out with Valentine's Day. (Personally that is...I know I have a couple of Valentine's Day items for sale for the people who will have a nice Valentine's Day.)

Logged on once, never used it. I should have, but was too lazy. To be frank, I'm rather glad that there are FEWER places for me to advertise/place products.

[ETA: My shopping experience is roughly 99.5% inworld/.5% SLX. I almost never shop/buy SLX.]

Hi Marcus!

This is pretty much what happened to me. Most of my sales were through the Onrez vendors I had placed, and I tended to sell as many through those as I did XStreetSL. Once Onrez went down, I had to spend the L$ to replace previously free vendors with Hippovend.

What's worse though is that I now find I wanted to do a final upgrade to one of my products, but I no longer have access to the old Onrez database. Years worth of customer information, dating back to SLBoutique is now gone.