This morning's closing speech
|
|
Macphisto Angelus
JAFO
Join date: 21 Oct 2004
Posts: 5,831
|
07-08-2008 12:42
Transcript available: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/SL5B/Transcripts#Closing_Keynote_-_2008-07-07Now you can *see* statements like From: someone So the first is, in the earliest wave of pioneers in any new disruptive platform, the marginal and the dispossessed are over represented, not the sole constituents by any means but people who feel they don't fit, who have nothing left to lose or who were impelled by some kind of dream, who may be outsiders to whatever mainstream they are coming from, all come and arrive early in disproportionate numbers. And From: someone And what do we do with all this power to imagine and actually create a world. For all the fascination we have with the power of technology, I have come to believe ultimately it is what is in our hearts that determines the uses and the impact And so this is my point, it is really a choice to work to make things better, just as it is a choice to do things which have a negative impact. And so I want to encourage all of us to see the opportunities and to raise above kind of pettiness and personal complaint and to reach for the best and highest within ourselves in making what we can of this opportunity. Negative customer feedback = Petty. Woo Hoo.
_____________________
From: Natalie P from SLU Second Life: Where being the super important, extra special person you've always been sure you are (at least when you're drunk) can be a reality! From: Ann Launay I put on my robe and wizard ha...
Oh. Nevermind then.
|
|
Rebecca Proudhon
(TM)
Join date: 3 May 2006
Posts: 1,686
|
07-08-2008 13:20
"the marginal and the dispossessed" LL couldn't care less about their creative "pioneers." Now they will try to bribe them with a booby prize of some fake money pitance, that they can just coin. It's scummy. SL jumped the shark and whatever future it has will just be tainted with scams and rampant nonsense. But they don;t care. That is why they have been trying to give it all away after they make their money. Now drink their poison Kool-Aid  |
|
Brenda Connolly
Un United Avatar
Join date: 10 Jan 2007
Posts: 25,000
|
07-08-2008 13:22
Or...The paying customer should ignore all the problems and just let them die. (tm)
_____________________
Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen.
http://brenda-connolly.blogspot.com
|
|
Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
|
07-08-2008 13:23
From: Rebecca Proudhon LL couldn't care less about their creative "pioneers." Now they will try to bribe them with a booby prize of some fake money pitance, that they can just coin. Actually, I don't surpect any of LL's "Pioneers" would be the ones they'd offer such an award to. I see it more going to outsiders coming in to make the toys Mitch wants. The real question: when does the "clarification" of Mitch's speech hit the blog? 
_____________________
  "There's nothing objectionable nor illegal in having a child-like avatar in itself and we must assume innocence until proof of the contrary." - Lewis PR Linden "If you find children offensive, you're gonna have trouble in this world  " - Prospero Linden
|
|
Brenda Connolly
Un United Avatar
Join date: 10 Jan 2007
Posts: 25,000
|
07-08-2008 13:27
From: Marianne McCann Actually, I don't surpect any of LL's "Pioneers" would be the ones they'd offer such an award to. I see it more going to outsiders coming in to make the toys Mitch wants. She shoots, she scores.
_____________________
Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen.
http://brenda-connolly.blogspot.com
|
|
Tali Rosca
Plywood Whisperer
Join date: 6 Feb 2007
Posts: 767
|
07-08-2008 13:27
From: Marianne McCann Actually, I don't surpect any of LL's "Pioneers" would be the ones they'd offer such an award to. I see it more going to outsiders coming in to make the toys Mitch wants. The real question: when does the "clarification" of Mitch's speech hit the blog? The way I read it, it was *definitely* not for the "oldschool pioneers", but *specifically* for the new "pragmatists" who could find something *intelligent* to use the platform for. |
|
Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
|
07-08-2008 13:32
From: Tali Rosca The way I read it, it was *definitely* not for the "oldschool pioneers", but *specifically* for the new "pragmatists" who could find something *intelligent* to use the platform for. Silly me, I was using it intelligently
_____________________
"There's nothing objectionable nor illegal in having a child-like avatar in itself and we must assume innocence until proof of the contrary." - Lewis PR Linden "If you find children offensive, you're gonna have trouble in this world " - Prospero Linden
|
|
Rebecca Proudhon
(TM)
Join date: 3 May 2006
Posts: 1,686
|
07-08-2008 13:34
From: Marianne McCann Actually, I don't surpect any of LL's "Pioneers" would be the ones they'd offer such an award to. I see it more going to outsiders coming in to make the toys Mitch wants. I agree, but it is a verbal ploy to associate the creative "pioneers" with this act of hypocritical benevolence. Really I saw all this coming and the pathetic thing is that they will not be held accountable by their user base, because the user base won't have the courage to unite, walk out and leave them with their scammers paradise of the future. Its all a big con-job. I am going to dump my 2+ year premium account right now. It's done. Im tired of caring about it. It's a misuse of what could be a technology to help the "human condition" They really only care about their own financial condition and pretending they are visionaries. They are not visionaries, they are imbeciles. |
|
Macphisto Angelus
JAFO
Join date: 21 Oct 2004
Posts: 5,831
|
07-08-2008 13:35
From: Marianne McCann The real question: when does the "clarification" of Mitch's speech hit the blog? Oh yes.. expect it. Or it will just be left as is like when Philip made his slap at us: From: someone Asked to explain the appeal of Second Life — which has no game-like aspects such as points-scoring, winners or losers — Rosedale said: “The only thing that SL users have in common is that they have a lot of time.” Users in big cities such as New York or Los Angeles were least likely to spend time in Second Life, not only because they were busy but because they had less need to escape to an alternative, anonymous world, he said.
“Bad weather, oppressive regimes, poor economic conditions — that’s what makes an SL user.”
I don't recall anyone official back peddling his latest brain fart then.
_____________________
From: Natalie P from SLU Second Life: Where being the super important, extra special person you've always been sure you are (at least when you're drunk) can be a reality! From: Ann Launay I put on my robe and wizard ha...
Oh. Nevermind then.
|
|
Brenda Connolly
Un United Avatar
Join date: 10 Jan 2007
Posts: 25,000
|
07-08-2008 13:42
They can only backpedal so far before falling off the edge of the Metaverse
_____________________
Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen.
http://brenda-connolly.blogspot.com
|
|
Tod69 Talamasca
The Human Tripod ;)
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 4,107
|
07-08-2008 13:47
I watched the video. Interesting. BUT- as they say: "I'll believe it when I see it".
_____________________
really pissy & mean right now and NOT happy with Life.
|
|
Tabliopa Underwood
Registered User
Join date: 6 Aug 2007
Posts: 719
|
07-08-2008 14:02
I can certainly see how 3D avatar touch and feel, as Mr Kapor envisages it, will enhance inworld teaching that requires hands-on work. That would really useful.
While corporates may find it, umm! more corporate, to use the RL avatars, I think many students will get bummed out if the school they goto enforces the uniform code and they have to goto class dressed as themselves.
Still, Mr Kapor was talking from the heart about his vision. And thats kool too. He's also a techie so he wasn't overselling it I don't think. Not to any other techie listening he wasn't =)
As for LL/sl being the future platform for the b2b metaverse? hmm! I thought I saw a set of triplets on IBM/sl today.
|
|
Chris Norse
Loud Arrogant Redneck
Join date: 1 Oct 2006
Posts: 5,735
|
07-08-2008 14:16
From: Rebecca Proudhon
I am going to dump my 2+ year premium account right now. It's done. Im tired of caring about it.
It's a misuse of what could be a technology to help the "human condition"
They really only care about their own financial condition and pretending they are visionaries.
I would have thought you would have loved this. It is right up your alley. Telling all of us that we have been using SL wrong. But there is no changing the "human condition", not out of charity and benevolence anyway. The driving force behind human advancement has always been and will always be greed. We aren't evolving toward some rainbow filled world of sugar drops and moonbeams like you seem to desperately want.
_____________________
I'm going to pick a fight
William Wallace, Braveheart
“Rules are mostly made to be broken and are too often for the lazy to hide behind”
Douglas MacArthur
FULL
|
|
Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
Posts: 4,694
|
07-08-2008 14:17
After reading that... I can almost understand where the mindset came from to [respectfully decline] child avatars. Here's my own condensed version of what I see: From: someone Get real or get out. Sorry pal... I'm here to stay! (^_^)y |
|
Maklin Deckard
Disillusioned
Join date: 9 Apr 2005
Posts: 459
|
07-08-2008 14:17
From: Marianne McCann Actually, I don't surpect any of LL's "Pioneers" would be the ones they'd offer such an award to. I see it more going to outsiders coming in to make the toys Mitch wants. The real question: when does the "clarification" of Mitch's speech hit the blog? Just as soon as Torley can come up with a line of BS powerful enough to try to obscure the WORDS Mr. Kapor used and the utter disdain he holds for the people that MADE SL. Might be a bit, but It'll come. |
|
Rebecca Proudhon
(TM)
Join date: 3 May 2006
Posts: 1,686
|
07-08-2008 14:21
From: Chris Norse I would have thought you would have loved this. It is right up your alley. Telling all of us that we have been using SL wrong.
. That is because you don't grasp a single thing i've said. You've been too intent on Kool Aid slurping. |
|
Tabliopa Underwood
Registered User
Join date: 6 Aug 2007
Posts: 719
|
07-08-2008 14:43
From: Imnotgoing Sideways ... Sorry pal... I'm here to stay! (^_^)y ... Well thats two of us. Hope nobody else stays. Zillions of sims and no lag. Not unless I run into you of course then we can lag each other =D |
|
Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
|
07-08-2008 14:47
From: Tabliopa Underwood Well thats two of us. Hope nobody else stays. Zillions of sims and no lag. Not unless I run into you of course then we can lag each other =D Well, dat's gonna be no good, 'cuz I'm gonna be stickin' around too. So now it's three!
_____________________
"There's nothing objectionable nor illegal in having a child-like avatar in itself and we must assume innocence until proof of the contrary." - Lewis PR Linden "If you find children offensive, you're gonna have trouble in this world " - Prospero Linden
|
|
Rebecca Proudhon
(TM)
Join date: 3 May 2006
Posts: 1,686
|
07-08-2008 14:48
Co-dependence. Whatever you all do, let them run all over you and enjoy it.
|
|
Brenda Connolly
Un United Avatar
Join date: 10 Jan 2007
Posts: 25,000
|
07-08-2008 14:49
From: Chris Norse I would have thought you would have loved this. It is right up your alley. Telling all of us that we have been using SL wrong.
But there is no changing the "human condition", not out of charity and benevolence anyway. The driving force behind human advancement has always been and will always be greed. We aren't evolving toward some rainbow filled world of sugar drops and moonbeams like you seem to desperately want.
_____________________
Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen.
http://brenda-connolly.blogspot.com
|
|
Macphisto Angelus
JAFO
Join date: 21 Oct 2004
Posts: 5,831
|
07-08-2008 14:56
From: Maklin Deckard Just as soon as Torley can come up with a line of BS powerful enough to try to obscure the WORDS Mr. Kapor used and the utter disdain he holds for the people that MADE SL.
Might be a bit, but It'll come. They have Torley busy working on the videos on how to perform open heart surgery simulations in Second Life as we speak. Or maybe how to do a hostile takeover of a company using your avatar.
_____________________
From: Natalie P from SLU Second Life: Where being the super important, extra special person you've always been sure you are (at least when you're drunk) can be a reality! From: Ann Launay I put on my robe and wizard ha...
Oh. Nevermind then.
|
|
Damien1 Thorne
Registered User
Join date: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 4,877
|
07-08-2008 14:58
_____________________
As we fade into the darkness...
|
|
Brenda Connolly
Un United Avatar
Join date: 10 Jan 2007
Posts: 25,000
|
07-08-2008 15:19
From: Damien1 Thorne That was evil! Not compared to this..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkCVJjf_Mw0
_____________________
Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen.
http://brenda-connolly.blogspot.com
|
|
Brenda Connolly
Un United Avatar
Join date: 10 Jan 2007
Posts: 25,000
|
07-08-2008 15:21
From: Macphisto Angelus They have Torley busy working on the videos on how to perform open heart surgery simulations in Second Life as we speak. Or maybe how to do a hostile takeover of a company using your avatar. Or how to take a great idea and turn it to shit.......Oh wait..that's called the TAO...never mind.
_____________________
Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen.
http://brenda-connolly.blogspot.com
|
|
Damien1 Thorne
Registered User
Join date: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 4,877
|
07-08-2008 15:21
Argh I knew better than to look at that.
_____________________
As we fade into the darkness...
|
