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Seezuh Pimpernel
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11-19-2008 01:07
I am not able to find a single area to let the world know that SL now kept up with what they should be doing, every patch that comes through always comes through with error, i cant even make money on my sl creation which is sad.. linden labs refuses to advertise.. refuses to do anything.. the only reason i learned about second life was from a friend.
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11-19-2008 01:34
Blame your friend :)
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Zii Minotaur
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11-19-2008 01:41
LL doesn't need to advertise, it gets new members mostly through word of mouth and news stories about drama llamas. :D
Ceka Cianci
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11-19-2008 01:50
leave LL aloooooooooone

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11-19-2008 02:09
From: Ceka Cianci
leave LL aloooooooooone


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Qie Niangao
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11-19-2008 04:07
From: Seezuh Pimpernel
i cant even make money on my sl creation which is sad.
Awww. :supersad:

I wonder why not. It surely must be LL's fault.
Charles Matterhorn
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Join date: 11 Dec 2007
Posts: 13
11-19-2008 04:20
There where articles in the media and thr last week and from what I heared mentors where swamped with work this weekend it was much much busier with new people then normal.
As said LL doesn't have to advertise
Ronald Voss
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Join date: 8 Oct 2006
Posts: 16
11-19-2008 04:26
Why would LL advertise?
Second Life get's lots of attention still in the media.
The last week there has been various articles etc about Second Life.
You know what happend this weekend? There was a (dramatic) increase in new signups just because of these articles.
From what I read in groupchats and mailinglist the mentors where more then busy helping all the newbie's
Dekka Raymaker
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Join date: 4 Feb 2007
Posts: 3,898
11-19-2008 04:30
From: Seezuh Pimpernel
i cant even make money on my sl creation which is sad.

I once created a bed in SL and tried to make Money on it as well, but she said no to me too :(
Drivin Sideways
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Join date: 30 Oct 2007
Posts: 502
11-19-2008 05:06
From: Seezuh Pimpernel
... I cant even make money on my sl creation which is sad..



This attitude guarantees failure/unhappiness. Expecting to make money is completely unrealistic. Unless you reprioritize in a personal and emotional way SL will *always* be inadequate - you might as well just quit now.

Reality check - it *WILL* be an expense for 99.99% of us. Don't set your complete hopes on being in the .01%. Every violinist has not wasted their lives if they do not play Carnegie, and evey Avatar is not cheated if it does not make a profit. You wouldn't engage whole-heartedly in most other activities with that kind of success rate.

Here's how to succeed in SL: Lighten up. Laugh. Go "oooo!" and "ahhhhh!" at things. Compare the expense SL with other forms of entertainment in sheer $/hour - it proves to be a bargian, and this atitude is a certain formula for enjoyment.

Requiring yourself to make a profit is a formula for unhappiness and failure, and that failure is not LL's fault. It is your fault for pie-in-the-sky expectations. You might as well take a shovel into your back yard expecting to find dinosaur bones ... and then blame your realtor when there aren't any.... same quality of logic.
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11-19-2008 05:32
From: Seezuh Pimpernel
I am not able to find a single area to let the world know that SL now kept up with what they should be doing, every patch that comes through always comes through with error, i cant even make money on my sl creation which is sad.. linden labs refuses to advertise.. refuses to do anything.. the only reason i learned about second life was from a friend.


They depend on you to advertise,bug test,mentor, and teach residents all for free while you pump money down their throats.. Pretty slick of them.
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Porky Gorky
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11-19-2008 06:01
From: Drivin Sideways
This attitude guarantees failure/unhappiness. Expecting to make money is completely unrealistic. Unless you reprioritize in a personal and emotional way SL will *always* be inadequate - you might as well just quit now.


Wrong - I expect to make money from every single piece of content I create. And have done so from day 1.

From: Drivin Sideways
Reality check - it *WILL* be an expense for 99.99% of us. Don't set your complete hopes on being in the .01%. Every violinist has not wasted their lives if they do not play Carnegie, and evey Avatar is not cheated if it does not make a profit. You wouldn't engage whole-heartedly in most other activities with that kind of success rate.


Probably Wrong - I would lay money on the fact that more than 0.01% of content creators make a profit against their expenditure, no matter how small.

From: Drivin Sideways
Here's how to succeed in SL: Lighten up. Laugh. Go "oooo!" and "ahhhhh!" at things. Compare the expense SL with other forms of entertainment in sheer $/hour - it proves to be a bargian, and this atitude is a certain formula for enjoyment.


Wrong - I am one miserable git most of the time. Laughing, lightening up and going "oooh" and "aaah" is irrelevant nonsense. Here's how to succeed in SL. Work your arse off, create amazing content, spend every minute you are in SL creating, marketing and selling.

From: Drivin Sideways
Requiring yourself to make a profit is a formula for unhappiness and failure, and that failure is not LL's fault. It is your fault for pie-in-the-sky expectations. You might as well take a shovel into your back yard expecting to find dinosaur bones ... and then blame your realtor when there aren't any.... same quality of logic.


Wrong, Wrong Wrong - Advising people to approach SL with that sort of defeatist attitude is ridiculous. No one ever became successful from assuming they were going to fail. Yeah people will fail here, but allot will succeed too and chasing the L$ is the best motivation I can think off. There are allot of L$ out there to be made and if people are skilled enough and committed enough it is still possible to create a business from scratch today and be making a nice profit within 6 months. I am watching 2 of my RL friends do it right now, one creating sculpties and one creating animations.
Jig Chippewa
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Join date: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 5,150
11-19-2008 06:03
SL doesnt need to advertize coz people troll the forums and read resident answers and realize its full of brilliant sexy people like us and join up from there. :)
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Join date: 28 Oct 2006
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11-19-2008 06:58
From: Porky Gorky
Wrong - I expect to make money from every single piece of content I create. And have done so from day 1.



Probably Wrong - I would lay money on the fact that more than 0.01% of content creators make a profit against their expenditure, no matter how small.



Wrong - I am one miserable git most of the time. Laughing, lightening up and going "oooh" and "aaah" is irrelevant nonsense. Here's how to succeed in SL. Work your arse off, create amazing content, spend every minute you are in SL creating, marketing and selling.



Wrong, Wrong Wrong - Advising people to approach SL with that sort of defeatist attitude is ridiculous. No one ever became successful from assuming they were going to fail. Yeah people will fail here, but allot will succeed too and chasing the L$ is the best motivation I can think off. There are allot of L$ out there to be made and if people are skilled enough and committed enough it is still possible to create a business from scratch today and be making a nice profit within 6 months. I am watching 2 of my RL friends do it right now, one creating sculpties and one creating animations.


Hear Hear!!!
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Yosef Okelly
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11-19-2008 07:24
From: Seezuh Pimpernel
linden labs
BTW, it's singular. There can be only one.
Yosef Okelly
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11-19-2008 07:25
From: Jig Chippewa
SL doesnt need to advertize coz people troll the forums and read resident answers and realize its full of brilliant sexy people like us and join up from there. :)

I thought it was the sensationalistic hype printed in the rags about all the sex that brought people in.
3Ring Binder
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Join date: 8 Mar 2007
Posts: 15,028
11-19-2008 07:27
yer doin it wrong.
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Tarina Sewell
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11-19-2008 10:47
From: Ronald Voss
Why would LL advertise?
Second Life get's lots of attention still in the media.
The last week there has been various articles etc about Second Life.
You know what happend this weekend? There was a (dramatic) increase in new signups just because of these articles.
From what I read in groupchats and mailinglist the mentors where more then busy helping all the newbie's


as far as countless tv shows that have it or have had it on.... csi just being one... it seems like more and more shows are using it and creating story lines from it.. mostly about sadistic stalkers and rape and whatnot..
But I was watching ghost whisperer on friday nights and they had a story of a young girl whos parents split, the father used SL to be close to his daughter and he died actually iof course cause thats what the show is about.. but anyway...

my point is.. SL gets lots of advertising.
Drivin Sideways
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Join date: 30 Oct 2007
Posts: 502
11-19-2008 15:23
OP: you now have one declaration of personal testimony from a person who truly cherishes each and every moment inworld, and another from a self-proclaimed "miserable git" who apparently turns a profit.


Define success for yourself.
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Porky Gorky
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Join date: 25 May 2004
Posts: 1,414
11-19-2008 15:38
From: Drivin Sideways
OP: you now have one declaration of personal testimony from a person who truly cherishes each and every moment inworld, and another from a self-proclaimed "miserable git" who apparently turns a profit.


Define success for yourself.


I wasn't presenting a testimony, simply pointing out the inaccuracies in your statements. I wasn't creating a definition of what a 'successful' SL experience should be. I was pointing out what is required to successfully profit from creating content.
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eku Zhong
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Join date: 27 May 2008
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11-19-2008 16:10
From: Porky Gorky
Wrong - I expect to make money from every single piece of content I create. And have done so from day 1.



Probably Wrong - I would lay money on the fact that more than 0.01% of content creators make a profit against their expenditure, no matter how small.



Wrong - I am one miserable git most of the time. Laughing, lightening up and going "oooh" and "aaah" is irrelevant nonsense. Here's how to succeed in SL. Work your arse off, create amazing content, spend every minute you are in SL creating, marketing and selling.



Wrong, Wrong Wrong - Advising people to approach SL with that sort of defeatist attitude is ridiculous. No one ever became successful from assuming they were going to fail. Yeah people will fail here, but allot will succeed too and chasing the L$ is the best motivation I can think off. There are allot of L$ out there to be made and if people are skilled enough and committed enough it is still possible to create a business from scratch today and be making a nice profit within 6 months. I am watching 2 of my RL friends do it right now, one creating sculpties and one creating animations.


Great post...

What you get out, depends on how motivated you are, do your research about what is in demand.. build well .. and get better all the time...
make sure your shop is well advertised... give away great freebies or dollarbies... have new stuff in regularty ...promote promote..

you get out what you put in.. and it is very possible to make a profit in SL.
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Join date: 22 Jan 2008
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11-19-2008 16:11
From: Tegg Bode
I thought that was a girl actually if you listen to the U-tube skit..............................

The Seth Green version of Leave Chris Crocker Alone is even better.
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11-19-2008 16:41
From: Yosef Okelly
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Becka Andrew
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Join date: 19 May 2008
Posts: 95
11-19-2008 16:51
I have been copy and pasting the SL daily numbers into notepad for the last few days. So far this what I recorded....

Last Updated: Friday, November 7, 2008
Reflects data through midnight, November 6.

Population
Residents Logged-In During Last 7 Days 501,193
Residents Logged-In During Last 14 Days 665,226
Residents Logged-In During Last 30 Days 900,412
Residents Logged-In During Last 60 Days 1,287,651
Total Residents 15,774,573

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Last Updated: Monday, November 10, 2008
Reflects data through midnight, November 9.

Population
Residents Logged-In During Last 7 Days 499,547
Residents Logged-In During Last 14 Days 655,803
Residents Logged-In During Last 30 Days 905,512
Residents Logged-In During Last 60 Days 1,288,366
Total Residents 15,797,983


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Last Updated: Thursday, November 13, 2008
Reflects data through midnight, November 12.

Population
Residents Logged-In During Last 7 Days 503,648
Residents Logged-In During Last 14 Days 652,692
Residents Logged-In During Last 30 Days 909,877
Residents Logged-In During Last 60 Days 1,293,730
Total Residents 15,830,556

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Last Updated: Friday, November 14, 2008
Reflects data through midnight, November 13.

Population
Residents Logged-In During Last 7 Days 517,698
Residents Logged-In During Last 14 Days 663,951
Residents Logged-In During Last 30 Days 924,736
Residents Logged-In During Last 60 Days 1,305,794
Total Residents 15,893,638

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Last Updated: Saturday, November 15, 2008
Reflects data through midnight, November 14.

Population
Residents Logged-In During Last 7 Days 525,782
Residents Logged-In During Last 14 Days 669,911
Residents Logged-In During Last 30 Days 932,311
Residents Logged-In During Last 60 Days 1,310,319
Total Residents 15,928,056

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Last Updated: Monday, November 17, 2008
Reflects data through midnight, November 16.

Population
Residents Logged-In During Last 7 Days 567,194
Residents Logged-In During Last 14 Days 710,130
Residents Logged-In During Last 30 Days 976,180
Residents Logged-In During Last 60 Days 1,349,551
Total Residents 15,981,396

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Last Updated: Tuesday, November 18, 2008
Reflects data through midnight, November 17.

Population
Residents Logged-In During Last 7 Days 575,043
Residents Logged-In During Last 14 Days 717,709
Residents Logged-In During Last 30 Days 985,920
Residents Logged-In During Last 60 Days 1,358,228
Total Residents 16,004,869

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Last Updated: Wednesday, November 19, 2008
Reflects data through midnight, November 18.

Population
Residents Logged-In During Last 7 Days 582,064
Residents Logged-In During Last 14 Days 725,059
Residents Logged-In During Last 30 Days 991,692
Residents Logged-In During Last 60 Days 1,364,568
Total Residents 16,018,187
LittleMe Jewell
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Posts: 11,319
11-19-2008 16:59
And what day did the latest sex story break?

Wow, 250,000 new accounts in just under 2 weeks. Damn, sex really does sell here.
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