Fast Survery!

Hey all!

I am student in Geneva at the University. I am doing here a survey regarding one of my marketing courses.

The survery will take MAXIMUM 5 minutes.

IMPORTANT: at the end, you can choose between many gifts as cars, jet ski...

Here is the link of survey: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Q7LN38P

Thank you for taking time! See you in Second Life

Jenifer Ranica (my name in SL)

I'm not clear on what you mean. Is it fast service? Fast surgery? Fast come, fast served?

Seriously, dear. Learn to spell check. Then, learn to read and browse this forum and all the not-too-far-away threads to see how we treat the survey people. Then, maybe, be nice and ask again, and if you do it the right way and maybe even tell us why you want to treat us residents as lab rats, maybe you'll find some participants. If not, get prepared to offer money for participation.











Gee, that was almost nice of me. Usually I just say "Bugger off!"

It'll take even less time *not* to do.

Pep (You have a peculiar and less than constructive sense of humour, don't you.)

I will often answer surveys but this question "What size were the following shops you visited" I found odd what was the point of asking me the size of shops i DO NOT use. You need to have a N/A for ppl to tick. I often use xstreet to shop so I dont tend to go to malls or shops.
Why do you need to know my education level again this questions should have a N/A choice for those who do not wish to give this info.
For someone who is doing a marketing courses I would assume you have just started as your questions were not very well written.
There was a reason I did not tick some as i do not go to such places such as clubs but yet you would not let me advance if i did not. Guess your not looking for true results

I'd prefer to have a more in depth, one on one conversation regarding the intrusive evils of marketing.

Go away.

shame on anyone who clicked the link to his fast survery!!!

What does this have to do with survery? I was about to AR you for offering survery services but now I see you just cannot spell.

Does anyone even offer or use survery services in SL?

SURVERY: A drawing of a property by a lead surveyor showing precise measurements, boundary encroachments and other physical properties.

While I share everyone's frustration with deluge of ill-conceived "surveys" and such that pop up her, I really wish we could, collectively, be a little kinder in our responses.

The students who are posting these here are just that: students, and most usually undergrads. They have NO idea what they are getting into. They have been told by their profs to "research SL": yes, they know nothing of SL, but that's the point, isn't it? They are hardly likely to understand what they are doing "wrong" by posting poorly written surveys here.

There is surely no need to shit on these poor people from a great height, as a few people here are. What might be more productive, and much more civil, is some gentle guidance. If anyone is to blame, it is surely the profs who are sending their students here like so many lambs to the slaughter. Let's reserve our anger for them.

Millie or any other mod who may be reading this: we REALLY need a sticky with some careful and GENTLE suggestions about posting academic surveys here, so that we aren't replaying this same scenario twice a week.

Well...in online Gor, the kitchen used to be referred to as the "servery" - slight difference in spelling. However, that turned out to be an "IRC-ism" now called an "online-ism" as no one (that I know of) has actually found the word "servery" in the novels, and instead uses the words "kitchen," or "cellar" or such. A sure "giveaway" that someone is new to Gor or all the knowledge they have is from a website, taken by its "author" from another website...from a website, etc.

Does anyone have the emoticon for banging one's head against a wall, please?

Sorry, but I tend to disagree with this. A normal college assignment would be to "research marketing as it relates to the internet or virtual worlds or such". Never ever in my college experience, or in that of my children, did a professor tell his students EXACTLY what and how to do a research assignment. College students are supposed to be able to actually *think* at that age and should be able to come up with a properly created survey or other methods of researching a topic. The problem is that the kids see putting up a really quick and poorly thought out survey as an easy way to get the assignment done.

There are different methods of research and anyone worth his/her weight in undergrad or post-grad education should start by a "review of the current research" first and students don't have to go very far (generally not past page one on this forum) to get the idea that they should amend their research methods.

Some may be bonafide college projects with clumsy research methods, but others I'm not so sure are not just collecting info to start a new business on SL or whatever. Generally the students conducting real research write their proposal with more introductory information, in a more professional format, explain what will be done with the info, etc.

This particular one offering "prizes" for completing the survey sounds more like a game show.

Oh Scylla, they just use us for a easy essay. And you know it. It's just like in real when they wanna "know why you create the art you do" - its such a scam and such a ripoff. Maybe there are some legitimate people out there but I am tired of pouring money down the drain of education and seeing sweet tweet in return.
It's seriously about time university educators and studnts got seriously told they do f**k all for teh world and need a good kick up the ass.
I have given TONS of cash to university people and seen bugger all in return.

I support a student who has no funds in real who had the audacity this christmas to inform me that she didnt want my "personal" interest in her well-being, just my financial support. As a person donating to funding I was so hurt I have scracthed all my grants and feel a lot happier (but sadder). She and the rest can wait tables as far as I'm concerned.

STUFF IT

No, that's not the point. They are supposed to get some knowledge about their subject first before they come up with poorly written surveys. There is no sense in phrasing questions when you have no idea what you have to ask.

Acknowledging that there might be some truth in all that has been said here, I still think that we could -- again, collectively -- be kinder and more helpful to the students who show up here. This is called "Residents Answers": it's DESIGNED for the asking of questions and soliciting of help from residents like ourselves. And even if the intended beneficiaries are SL residents, rather than students, were I an undergrad with no previous experience in SL, this might seem a logical place to start.

We are, most of us, hopeful that SL will attract more new blood. What kind of an inducement is it to enter into SL when the first experience with residents is a shower of abuse here?

I don't disagree with the practical advice we are offering here (i.e., get into SL and meet people), but it would also be nice to remember the time frame that the average student is working within. Most of them will have 2 months or less to produce a paper on this subject. And most of them will probably be producing 5 or more papers within that same time.

I just think that we are doing everyone a disservice by responding with "bugger off."

The first experience with residents should take place inside the thing they proclaim to study. About 90% of all "researchers" who came here admitted when cornered by the mob that they "don't really get SL" or they've been there "but it was too confusing".

These folks are only here until the homework is done. They never intended to "get it", so I for one don't care to accomodate them.

THAT.

This survey is a shocker, sorry to say. Impossible to answer in any meaningful or logical way.

Agreed. If a student of mine carried out such a survey and called it 'research', they'd quickly find themselves being asked to re-submit their assignment. From day one as an undergraduate, the student is expected to learn about, understand and apply academic rigour. To turn the argument around, we do them no favours by allowing them to think this kind of 'research' is OK. Telling them to 'bugger off' is probably a kindness.

The occasional properly constructed survey with bona fide university ethics committee approval is a different matter - whether or not to respond to that rare creature is a matter of personal choice. Even then, the manner in which a survey is conducted is important.

About a year ago, I contacted the ethics committee at ANU regarding a post-graduate survey that was being posted in multiple forums - I'm sure many will remember it. Despite the fact that the student had all the proper approvals, the ethics committee was greatly perturbed by the way the survey was being conducted, and the consequent impact on the university's international reputation. In that case, they quickly and justifiably pulled the plug.

Here's a handy answer for you!

"Similarly, some of the first educators and researchers in SL were a bit clumsy in their approach. There were early incidents in which Residents felt—rightly—that they were being spied upon or treated like guinea pigs rather than human beings. Imagine how you would feel if an entire class of students set up right next to your vacation hideaway, left trash lying around, logged your conversations, and posted them on the Internet with criticism and mean-spirited comments. This is exactly what happened to some early Residents. Things have improved greatly in the years since then, but sometimes SL Residents are still subject to that kind of inconsiderate behavior. For example, a constant stream of researchers (often students) posts on the Second Life official forums requesting that Residents please take their surveys. Most of these surveys include the same questions that have been asked over and over. Often they aren't spell-checked, or refer to SL as a game—a sure way to irritate a substantial number of Residents. Some Residents make a hobby of critiquing these surveys, pointing out how the questions and their wording make it clear that the researcher isn't familiar with Second Life. Some post outright that they are sick of badly planned surveys and suggest that the researchers log in and do their own research."

From The Second Life Grid: The Official Guide to Communication, Collaboration, and Community Engagement
by Kimberly Rufer-Bach
ISBN-13: 9780470412916

I think you people are being waaay to hard on Jenifer.

I'm going to take the survey.

I could really use a new car.

I've decided that in this day and age of nobody being responsible for their own actions that the full blame of being bombarded with surveys should be placed on surveymonkey.com as they are the ones that are just making it too easy for anyone to create a stupid survey that makes no sense.

So........... no more blaming the poor mistreated student.

/me laughs heartily

But they're not 'residents like ourselves'. They're people who dont want to bother to spend the time inworld to learn what we know. It's residents answers here, yeah, but I see it as questions from residents trying to learn how to navigate SL, not answering questions to satisfy someone's class requirements. I do't see it as the same thing at all. Agreed, we probably don't have to cuss them out, but it teeters on disrespect, does it not, to be treated as though you're a lab rat under a microscope? And, how much searching this forum (call it research if you like) would it take to get a clue of how the majority here feel about it? Just a tiny bit of research will bring up a ton of threads but they dont' even bother to do that, just show up and post their survey as if it's the first one we've ever seen and we should be grateful to answer it. I usually just ignore them, but there's been such a slew of them lately! One after another, several at once, gee! Give it (and us) a rest!