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Kascha Matova

Bus Bench Supermodel

Join date: 30 Mar 2007

Posts: 342

08-23-2007 11:21

Kascha's in here. "WITH US"...

Avion Raymaker

Palacio del Emperador!

Join date: 18 Jun 2007

Posts: 980

08-23-2007 11:23

From: Beezle Warburton

Used to be when you click on appearance, your avatar would turn 180 degrees (facing the camera) and spread their arms a little. Now, I turn about 90 degrees and end up with one leg slightly bent with my hands at my side.

When I close appearance, *then* I go into the 180 degree arms-spread pose, then spin back around away from the camera.

And assuming one agrees with me that maneuvering yourself around is a snap, why is this a problem? (if you don't agree with me, then I'll accept that as the problem -- to each his own)

On top of all that, everytime I adjust something, I check it out from all angles before I leave appearance mode. So I couldn't care less what angle I start out in.

I'm seriously not trying to argue with all of you, but I'm wondering if a programmer somewhere thinks like me, and would never try to fix it, because he or she doesn't see it as a problem.

--Avion "Do these pants make my butt look big?" Raymaker

Cristalle Karami

Lady of the House

Join date: 4 Dec 2006

Posts: 6,222

08-23-2007 11:29

From: Avion Raymaker

And assuming one agrees with me that maneuvering yourself around is a snap, why is this a problem? (if you don't agree with me, then I'll accept that as the problem -- to each his own)

On top of all that, everytime I adjust something, I check it out from all angles before I leave appearance mode. So I couldn't care less what angle I start out in.

I'm seriously not trying to argue with all of you, but I'm wondering if a programmer somewhere thinks like me, and would never try to fix it, because he or she doesn't see it as a problem.

--Avion "Do these pants make my butt look big?" Raymaker

For someone who is new, they might not understand what "shear up" "eye pop" or "jowls" are unless they see the preview... which they can't, because they are looking at the back side of their head. The only place this doesn't matter is when fixing your butt size. This place is already un-user friendly in many ways. We don't need to make it harder.

Avion Raymaker

Palacio del Emperador!

Join date: 18 Jun 2007

Posts: 980

08-23-2007 11:51

From: Cristalle Karami

For someone who is new, they might not understand what "shear up" "eye pop" or "jowls" are unless they see the preview... which they can't, because they are looking at the back side of their head. The only place this doesn't matter is when fixing your butt size. This place is already un-user friendly in many ways. We don't need to make it harder.

Thank you, Cristalle -- that makes sense. I wouldn't have noticed this because I was done with my facial features about 5 days after I was born, and really never looked at them again. I must have created my alt before this problem came about, too.

Tonight I'll go check my jowls and see what you all are on about!

zesje Sixgallery

Registered User

Join date: 2 Oct 2006

Posts: 32

09-17-2007 02:44

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2030 Avatar only turns half-way in Appearance Mode

I just voted.. since some weeks I also have this problem of turning half way and for half a year the preview stopped working. Haven't found the preview issue in Jira, maybe I should report it.

Deira Llanfair

Deira to rhyme with Myra

Join date: 16 Oct 2006

Posts: 2,315

09-17-2007 03:05

From: zesje Sixgallery

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2030 Avatar only turns half-way in Appearance Mode

I just voted.. since some weeks I also have this problem of turning half way and for half a year the preview stopped working. Haven't found the preview issue in Jira, maybe I should report it.

I've just voted for this one too - I'm astonished it is unassigned - it is easy enough to move the camera around the avatar, you usually want to do that anyway, but the incorrect preview windows are a real pain, so I added a comment about it in the hope that a complete view of the appearance functionality is taken, rather than a silo mentality about "the bug as reported".

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OneBeautiful Jewell

Registered User

Join date: 4 May 2007

Posts: 35

09-17-2007 07:36

I also have this annoying problem!

Gillian Waldman

Buttercup

Join date: 1 Oct 2006

Posts: 697

09-17-2007 07:57

It's a bug - just vote for it on Jira...

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Raudf Fox

(ra-ow-th)

Join date: 25 Feb 2005

Posts: 5,119

09-17-2007 08:26

Voted on it too. It's annoying, but not a show stopper, thankfully.

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Cristalle Karami

Lady of the House

Join date: 4 Dec 2006

Posts: 6,222

09-17-2007 08:29

I voted on the meta-issue - there are a host of weird avatar problems. Eye textures going berserk, etc.

Malia Writer

Unemployed in paradise

Join date: 20 Aug 2007

Posts: 2,026

09-17-2007 09:23

I am kinda new so maybe other new folks will need to hear this. In the Edit Appearance window, you get the little cursor to zoom in on your avie.

This seemed to work/not work at random,causing me great frustration until I finally figured it out... You have to click *ON* your avie to move the camera around while in this mode, not anywhere else on screen. Click on the body part you want to zoom in on.

Hope this helps someone else who is new like me...

Sheena Gelfand

Huh? Very perceptive

Join date: 31 Aug 2006

Posts: 314

09-17-2007 10:53

I have this problem too along with a most annoying one but I think this is suppose to happen and not a bug issue but a rude issue lmao..when someone around me is talking my avi seems to move its head over that way as to look as tho I am ease dropping on their conversation...I hate this and feel it is funny but at the same time very rude LOL!

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Cristalle Karami

Lady of the House

Join date: 4 Dec 2006

Posts: 6,222

09-17-2007 10:54

Sheena, your avatar's head follows your mouse.

Sheena Gelfand

Huh? Very perceptive

Join date: 31 Aug 2006

Posts: 314

09-17-2007 10:56

From: Cristalle Karami

Sheena, your avatar's head follows your mouse.

LOL No I am not even touching my mouse but whenever someone is near me and chating my head looks over thier way as tho I am listening to their conversation...hasn't anyone else noticed this?

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Oryx Tempel

Registered User

Join date: 8 Nov 2006

Posts: 7,663

09-17-2007 11:05

From: zesje Sixgallery

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2030 Avatar only turns half-way in Appearance Mode

I just voted.. since some weeks I also have this problem of turning half way and for half a year the preview stopped working. Haven't found the preview issue in Jira, maybe I should report it.

Thanks for this link, Zesje! I just went and voted. Torley Linden has commented that he sees the same problem, even with no AO's attached.

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Kaimi Kyomoon

Kah-EE-mee

Join date: 30 Nov 2006

Posts: 5,664

09-17-2007 15:38

This is annoying enough to me that I just voted to fix it. In fact it was nice when it was fixed for about a day. It's not just that you have to move the camera around it's also that the pose is odd.

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Avion Raymaker

Palacio del Emperador!

Join date: 18 Jun 2007

Posts: 980

09-17-2007 16:01

From: Sheena Gelfand

I have this problem too along with a most annoying one but I think this is suppose to happen and not a bug issue but a rude issue lmao..when someone around me is talking my avi seems to move its head over that way as to look as tho I am ease dropping on their conversation...I hate this and feel it is funny but at the same time very rude LOL!

Sheena, why on Linden's Green Pixels would you think this is rude? You look all you want. (Or, I guess, look all you don't want). If they don't want you to hear, they'll talk in IM.

Lindal Kidd

Dances With Noobs

Join date: 26 Jun 2007

Posts: 8,371

09-17-2007 16:09

I'm used to having my av turn her back on me in Appearance mode. But last night, she did an Exorcist imitation and turned her head around backwards.

Ewwwwww.

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zesje Sixgallery

Registered User

Join date: 2 Oct 2006

Posts: 32

Resolved!

09-19-2007 11:39

For me this issue is resolved with the download of the optional version 1.18.3.4 from http://secondlife.com/community/downloads-optional.php

- I now fully turn around instead of half way in appearance mode
- Focus is on front instead of back
- Preview pictures work again

Also another issue I had is resolved: I was unable to invite new members to my group because I couldn't click the select button (was greyed out). Now I can!

zesje Sixgallery

Registered User

Join date: 2 Oct 2006

Posts: 32

09-23-2007 23:45

Ehmmmm, I have been able to turn totally once or twice, now it's the same old story of turning half way. Previews still work but what's the use if you want to tweak your face and previews show the back of your head...

SuezanneC Baskerville

Forums Rock!

Join date: 22 Dec 2003

Posts: 14,229

09-24-2007 00:40

I'm nearly always looking at myself from the front when I click appearance. So the normal behavior turns me away such that I'm looking from behind.

Why can't we have an option to just plain not move the camera at all when we enter appearance.

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Colette Meiji

Registered User

Join date: 25 Mar 2005

Posts: 15,556

09-24-2007 07:31

I did a custom shape for someone this weekend and ran into this. It used to be that after a while it would start working correctly, but I was at it for well over an hour and it never did.

Luckily Ive done so many shapes I dont need to "see" what Im doing to get the results Im looking for. But it definitely Slowed me down.

For people who are adjusting for themselves and especially noobies this bug would seriously cramp their style.

In Appearance Mode - facing wrong way
Kascha Matova Bus Bench Supermodel Join date: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 342	08-23-2007 11:21 Kascha's in here. "WITH US"...
Avion Raymaker Palacio del Emperador! Join date: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 980	08-23-2007 11:23 From: Beezle Warburton Used to be when you click on appearance, your avatar would turn 180 degrees (facing the camera) and spread their arms a little. Now, I turn about 90 degrees and end up with one leg slightly bent with my hands at my side. When I close appearance, then I go into the 180 degree arms-spread pose, then spin back around away from the camera. And assuming one agrees with me that maneuvering yourself around is a snap, why is this a problem? (if you don't agree with me, then I'll accept that as the problem -- to each his own) On top of all that, everytime I adjust something, I check it out from all angles before I leave appearance mode. So I couldn't care less what angle I start out in. I'm seriously not trying to argue with all of you, but I'm wondering if a programmer somewhere thinks like me, and would never try to fix it, because he or she doesn't see it as a problem. --Avion "Do these pants make my butt look big?" Raymaker
Cristalle Karami Lady of the House Join date: 4 Dec 2006 Posts: 6,222	08-23-2007 11:29 From: Avion Raymaker And assuming one agrees with me that maneuvering yourself around is a snap, why is this a problem? (if you don't agree with me, then I'll accept that as the problem -- to each his own) On top of all that, everytime I adjust something, I check it out from all angles before I leave appearance mode. So I couldn't care less what angle I start out in. I'm seriously not trying to argue with all of you, but I'm wondering if a programmer somewhere thinks like me, and would never try to fix it, because he or she doesn't see it as a problem. --Avion "Do these pants make my butt look big?" Raymaker For someone who is new, they might not understand what "shear up" "eye pop" or "jowls" are unless they see the preview... which they can't, because they are looking at the back side of their head. The only place this doesn't matter is when fixing your butt size. This place is already un-user friendly in many ways. We don't need to make it harder.
Avion Raymaker Palacio del Emperador! Join date: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 980	08-23-2007 11:51 From: Cristalle Karami For someone who is new, they might not understand what "shear up" "eye pop" or "jowls" are unless they see the preview... which they can't, because they are looking at the back side of their head. The only place this doesn't matter is when fixing your butt size. This place is already un-user friendly in many ways. We don't need to make it harder. Thank you, Cristalle -- that makes sense. I wouldn't have noticed this because I was done with my facial features about 5 days after I was born, and really never looked at them again. I must have created my alt before this problem came about, too. Tonight I'll go check my jowls and see what you all are on about!
zesje Sixgallery Registered User Join date: 2 Oct 2006 Posts: 32	09-17-2007 02:44 https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2030 Avatar only turns half-way in Appearance Mode I just voted.. since some weeks I also have this problem of turning half way and for half a year the preview stopped working. Haven't found the preview issue in Jira, maybe I should report it.
Deira Llanfair Deira to rhyme with Myra Join date: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,315	09-17-2007 03:05 From: zesje Sixgallery https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2030 Avatar only turns half-way in Appearance Mode I just voted.. since some weeks I also have this problem of turning half way and for half a year the preview stopped working. Haven't found the preview issue in Jira, maybe I should report it. I've just voted for this one too - I'm astonished it is unassigned - it is easy enough to move the camera around the avatar, you usually want to do that anyway, but the incorrect preview windows are a real pain, so I added a comment about it in the hope that a complete view of the appearance functionality is taken, rather than a silo mentality about "the bug as reported". _____________________ Deira Must create animations for head-desk and palm-face!.
OneBeautiful Jewell Registered User Join date: 4 May 2007 Posts: 35	09-17-2007 07:36 I also have this annoying problem!
Gillian Waldman Buttercup Join date: 1 Oct 2006 Posts: 697	09-17-2007 07:57 It's a bug - just vote for it on Jira... _____________________ http://www.deuxlooks.com/
Raudf Fox (ra-ow-th) Join date: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 5,119	09-17-2007 08:26 Voted on it too. It's annoying, but not a show stopper, thankfully. _____________________ DiamonX Studios, the place of the Victorian Times series of gowns and dresses - Located at http://slurl.com/secondlife/Fushida/224/176 Want more attachment points for your avatar's wearing pleasure? Then please vote for https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1065?
Cristalle Karami Lady of the House Join date: 4 Dec 2006 Posts: 6,222	09-17-2007 08:29 I voted on the meta-issue - there are a host of weird avatar problems. Eye textures going berserk, etc.
Malia Writer Unemployed in paradise Join date: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 2,026	09-17-2007 09:23 I am kinda new so maybe other new folks will need to hear this. In the Edit Appearance window, you get the little cursor to zoom in on your avie. This seemed to work/not work at random,causing me great frustration until I finally figured it out... You have to click ON your avie to move the camera around while in this mode, not anywhere else on screen. Click on the body part you want to zoom in on. Hope this helps someone else who is new like me...
Sheena Gelfand Huh? Very perceptive Join date: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 314	09-17-2007 10:53 I have this problem too along with a most annoying one but I think this is suppose to happen and not a bug issue but a rude issue lmao..when someone around me is talking my avi seems to move its head over that way as to look as tho I am ease dropping on their conversation...I hate this and feel it is funny but at the same time very rude LOL! _____________________ Just sitting here waiting to crash.
Cristalle Karami Lady of the House Join date: 4 Dec 2006 Posts: 6,222	09-17-2007 10:54 Sheena, your avatar's head follows your mouse.
Sheena Gelfand Huh? Very perceptive Join date: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 314	09-17-2007 10:56 From: Cristalle Karami Sheena, your avatar's head follows your mouse. LOL No I am not even touching my mouse but whenever someone is near me and chating my head looks over thier way as tho I am listening to their conversation...hasn't anyone else noticed this? _____________________ Just sitting here waiting to crash.
Oryx Tempel Registered User Join date: 8 Nov 2006 Posts: 7,663	09-17-2007 11:05 From: zesje Sixgallery https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2030 Avatar only turns half-way in Appearance Mode I just voted.. since some weeks I also have this problem of turning half way and for half a year the preview stopped working. Haven't found the preview issue in Jira, maybe I should report it. Thanks for this link, Zesje! I just went and voted. Torley Linden has commented that he sees the same problem, even with no AO's attached. _____________________
Kaimi Kyomoon Kah-EE-mee Join date: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 5,664	09-17-2007 15:38 This is annoying enough to me that I just voted to fix it. In fact it was nice when it was fixed for about a day. It's not just that you have to move the camera around it's also that the pose is odd. _____________________ Kaimi's Normal Wear From: 3Ring Binder i think people are afraid of me or something.
Avion Raymaker Palacio del Emperador! Join date: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 980	09-17-2007 16:01 From: Sheena Gelfand I have this problem too along with a most annoying one but I think this is suppose to happen and not a bug issue but a rude issue lmao..when someone around me is talking my avi seems to move its head over that way as to look as tho I am ease dropping on their conversation...I hate this and feel it is funny but at the same time very rude LOL! Sheena, why on Linden's Green Pixels would you think this is rude? You look all you want. (Or, I guess, look all you don't want). If they don't want you to hear, they'll talk in IM.
Lindal Kidd Dances With Noobs Join date: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 8,371	09-17-2007 16:09 I'm used to having my av turn her back on me in Appearance mode. But last night, she did an Exorcist imitation and turned her head around backwards. Ewwwwww. _____________________ It's still My World and My Imagination! So there. Lindal Kidd
zesje Sixgallery Registered User Join date: 2 Oct 2006 Posts: 32	Resolved! 09-19-2007 11:39 For me this issue is resolved with the download of the optional version 1.18.3.4 from http://secondlife.com/community/downloads-optional.php - I now fully turn around instead of half way in appearance mode - Focus is on front instead of back - Preview pictures work again Also another issue I had is resolved: I was unable to invite new members to my group because I couldn't click the select button (was greyed out). Now I can!
zesje Sixgallery Registered User Join date: 2 Oct 2006 Posts: 32	09-23-2007 23:45 Ehmmmm, I have been able to turn totally once or twice, now it's the same old story of turning half way. Previews still work but what's the use if you want to tweak your face and previews show the back of your head...
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	09-24-2007 00:40 I'm nearly always looking at myself from the front when I click appearance. So the normal behavior turns me away such that I'm looking from behind. Why can't we have an option to just plain not move the camera at all when we enter appearance. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Colette Meiji Registered User Join date: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 15,556	09-24-2007 07:31 I did a custom shape for someone this weekend and ran into this. It used to be that after a while it would start working correctly, but I was at it for well over an hour and it never did. Luckily Ive done so many shapes I dont need to "see" what Im doing to get the results Im looking for. But it definitely Slowed me down. For people who are adjusting for themselves and especially noobies this bug would seriously cramp their style.

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