Today's thread on bots

So you do have a line somewhere. That's what i was getting at. people who make a blanket objection maybe haven't thought it through.

Well, I am. I don't know about you. Is it a hobby business you are in, or your livelihood? If it's just a hobby SL business, then you're not included in, "we're adults engaging in commerce", and the contraints you put on yourself don't apply to those who are in real business.

It would be great advertising if you could get people to read the blog Do it.

For me SL is a very important second income - certainly more than just a hobby, but that makes no difference. Honesty isn't conditional, Phil. Cheating the system is cheating the system. In SL or RL I'd rather be poor and honest than rich and unethical.

What a crock.

You have repetively suggested those people who lose business becuase they won't game the traffic system lack bussiness sense.

That is a tacit suggestion that they should use bots.

Great advertising? Certainly it wouldn't be me maintaining this blog, but I'd contribute to the to the findings and evidential photography no doubt! I was thinking more along the lines of giving those who enjoy bot annihilation a heads up. Gotta keep those bots moving ya know lest they rot in place!

There's an important distinction here. You used the phrase "cheating the system". Traffic bots could be said to cheat the system, although some would say that they use the system rather than cheat it. The distinction is that they do not cheat the people. When traffic bots are used to improve the rankings of relevant places in relevant search results, they do not cheat the people, and a strong argument could be made for them helping the people by making the results better for them.

A second income isn't the same at all. Your SL business is a sideline - a hobby that produces a little remuneration. If it were your livelihood, and people were telling you to do away with your livelihood, even though you aren't cheating anyone, and your store visitors are very happy that they found your store, then thoughts of a nuclear winter might readily spring to mind - especially as you'd know that they are only wanting you to lose your livelihood to satisfy their own personal desires of how they want SL to be, and not for any other reason. Would you do it then?

And don't forget that traffic bots have the green light from LL. It's LL's system, not the naysayers' system.

LL, please retire traffic!

LOL. You're a wee bit behind the times with your bot annihilation idea

it'll never happen. owners use real money to buy pretend money to pay campers. LL want that income.

Totally untrue - yet again. I'd call you a liar, but it may be that you're just mistaken. If you think you are telling the truth, let's see some quotes.

Retiring traffic would have next to no, if any, impact on the amount of money LL collects. In fact you could argue that they would collect more via classifieds.

while i don't argue your analyzation, any market LL makes money in is likely to remain a part of 2L for as long as it continues bring them income.

Quoted for being well said and pretty much irrefutable.

I really don't see how traffic brings them income.

I agree with Chip, cheating is cheating whatever fancy reasons are used to justify the action. I'm just an ordinary resident, if I see a search result with high traffic I want to know it's genuine.

Similarly, if I want to buy a parcel of land I object to some parasite running a bot, scooping it up, flipping it, and adding unearned lindens to the price. (And please let's not have any crap about fulfilling a need). If you want to be a land dealer, offer a genuine service.

LOL

You are joking, right? Its one of your core arguments.

Basically you say if your gaming the system is hurting people who don't game the system, They should game the system also.

It was all over the previous thread on this topic.

You want to live is an ideal world, so let me tell you - you didn't come from one, you didn't arrive in one, and you'll never find one

At least not while people continue to abuse the system to make out their place is more popular than it is

I see why they cheat. I can even understand businesswise why it makes sense.

I just don't understand why some lie about it and claim its not cheating.

Course I suppose some people are just wired that way. Look at all the excuses that get rolled out when people are unfaithful.

I asked for quotes. Put up or shut up. Reminder:-

I want quotes, because what you said is totally untrue - unless you prefer to admit that you are just shooting off at the mouth.

it keeps a continuous cycle of Lindens running through the system. people camp for L$, spend the L$, camp for more L$... owners pay the campers, if they didn't make enough money in sales, they have to buy L$ from LL in order to meet the needs of the campers.

except for those bots who camp simply to cash out. they don't contribute anything. nor do the bots on private property owned by same people running the business.

But isn't that why a lot of people come to SL? To get away from all the nonsense RL throws at us on a daily basis?. If we are going to reproduce all the crap from the real world here, what's the point?

I considered going back and getting them. Since I can think of several right off the top of my head. But why bother, you are in full spin mode and will play games with those too.

Besides I don't work for you and being talked to like I do is distasteful.

Yes, but all the "crap" isn't happening in SL, Brenda. It's all here in the forum. In SL, things work smoothly, people find what they are looking for, etc. etc. Here in the forum, people moan about things because they want them to be different - they want what they want, and they don't care about others. This is where the crap is.

LMAO. Can't find any, huh. Just another false allegation from you that you can't substantiate. Nothing new today, then.