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ArchTx Edo
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07-13-2008 08:57
Interesting incident report, "Abuse of support staff", I have never seen that one before. Does complaining about poor service in Residence Answers constitute abuse of support staff?

http://secondlife.com/support/incidentreport.php

Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008
Violation: Abuse of Support Staff
Region: —
Description: Abusing support staff.
Action taken: Suspended 1 days.
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3Ring Binder
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07-13-2008 08:59
someone was probably frustrated with a live chat or something, and cursed at the linden helper. *shrugs*
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07-13-2008 09:01
From: ArchTx Edo
Interesting incident report, "Abuse of support staff", I have never seen that one before. Does complaining about poor service in Residence Answers constitute abuse of support staff?

http://secondlife.com/support/incidentreport.php

Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008
Violation: Abuse of Support Staff
Region: —
Description: Abusing support staff.
Action taken: Suspended 1 days.



An AAR!! Abusive Abuse Report

Submitting an AAR on any day bar Talk Like A Pirate Day is a TOS offence.
It's not a major one though. You only get suspended for a day.
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07-13-2008 09:07
From: ArchTx Edo
Interesting incident report, "Abuse of support staff", I have never seen that one before. Does complaining about poor service in Residence Answers constitute abuse of support staff?
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If so, most of us forum posters are gonna be in trouble.
:D
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Har Fairweather
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07-13-2008 09:23
If they commit self-abuse, do they have to report themselves?
3Ring Binder
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07-13-2008 10:27
this is starting to get kinky.
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Raudf Fox
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07-13-2008 10:52
Two things I can think of:

False or repetitive Live chat usage (spamming)

Or becoming one of the gold medal winners for the most abusive, arrogant and cursing user.

Somehow, I can't see the use of whips and chains as being a reason for banning, since most support people tend toward being masochistic. Or at least from my experience..
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Lias Leandros
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07-13-2008 11:05
I had a winner on Live Help last night. The Friday Night rolling restart made lots of no-copy items go poof and not return to my inventory. Just to waste my time I contacted Live Help and said I needed a rolling restart on the mainland sim because the damage they had caused was sim wide. And then the song and dance started.

He constantly contradicted himself ( I do not see any prim decrease before or after the restart in that sim. I see 350 coalesced in your inventory. Maybe the items are there. I only see a prim increase in that sim in the last 24 hours).

Screaming at this desk jockey is not going to get my stuff back. I promised the guy that I would send the nonsense conversation to their main office - that is when I watched the entire Liv Help conversation deleted and the call abruptly ended. Luckily I had been copy/pasting the convo into a e-mail while we were talking.

I did contact him in-world and say although he deleted the convo logs I got them anyway. He did not respond. I am sure if I had continued to Instant Message him it would have been considered abuse. So I just did what I said I was going to do; send certified letters with copies of the run-around conversation to The People In Charge. I am hopeful enough to believe that someone in this service company will be concerned that their Customer Service department is deleting Live Help logs, giving non-answers and blatantly lying to the customers. Or it's status quo and this guy will get a promotion.

Either way, more peopel should take their Live Help chat logs and blog them and send letters to The Powers That Be at Linden Lab complaining about such shoddy service and the waste of money we encounter daily when Linden Lab deletes content we paid real money for from the server.

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Dekka Raymaker
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07-13-2008 17:16
I remember an incident report that had someone suspended for a day for "shooting a Linden" :)
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07-13-2008 17:17
if you get someone on live chat that cannot help you, save the name, then end the chat. come back the next day and try again, and also report the person who was unable to help you, and why.
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Ciaran Laval
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07-13-2008 17:30
From: Dekka Raymaker
I remember an incident report that had someone suspended for a day for "shooting a Linden" :)


Lol I was thinking of that and the name of the perp was familiar!
ArchTx Edo
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07-13-2008 21:07
From: Dekka Raymaker
I remember an incident report that had someone suspended for a day for "shooting a Linden" :)



It was probably justified. I think I may do this the next time I see one.
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ArchTx Edo
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07-13-2008 21:09
From: Lias Leandros
I had a winner on Live Help last night. The Friday Night rolling restart made lots of no-copy items go poof and not return to my inventory. Just to waste my time I contacted Live Help and said I needed a rolling restart on the mainland sim because the damage they had caused was sim wide. And then the song and dance started.

He constantly contradicted himself ( I do not see any prim decrease before or after the restart in that sim. I see 350 coalesced in your inventory. Maybe the items are there. I only see a prim increase in that sim in the last 24 hours).

Screaming at this desk jockey is not going to get my stuff back. I promised the guy that I would send the nonsense conversation to their main office - that is when I watched the entire Liv Help conversation deleted and the call abruptly ended. Luckily I had been copy/pasting the convo into a e-mail while we were talking.

I did contact him in-world and say although he deleted the convo logs I got them anyway. He did not respond. I am sure if I had continued to Instant Message him it would have been considered abuse. So I just did what I said I was going to do; send certified letters with copies of the run-around conversation to The People In Charge. I am hopeful enough to believe that someone in this service company will be concerned that their Customer Service department is deleting Live Help logs, giving non-answers and blatantly lying to the customers. Or it's status quo and this guy will get a promotion.

Either way, more peopel should take their Live Help chat logs and blog them and send letters to The Powers That Be at Linden Lab complaining about such shoddy service and the waste of money we encounter daily when Linden Lab deletes content we paid real money for from the server.

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OMG! It was probably you they banned for a day! But you were busy in RL and didn't even notice it.

Welcome back!! :)
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Sassy Romano
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07-13-2008 21:24
From: Lias Leandros
Either way, more peopel should take their Live Help chat logs and blog them and send letters to The Powers That Be at Linden Lab complaining about such shoddy service and the waste of money we encounter daily when Linden Lab deletes content we paid real money for from the server.

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/me nods, I know I did.

I think you had the same guy as me.
Gabriele Graves
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07-13-2008 21:57
From: LittleMe Jewell
If so, most of us forum posters are gonna be in trouble.
:D
Not me :p
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07-13-2008 22:16
From: Gabriele Graves
Not me :p

Kiss up. :p
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Lias Leandros
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07-13-2008 22:25
From: ArchTx Edo
OMG! It was probably you they banned for a day! But you were busy in RL and didn't even notice it.

Welcome back!! :)
Hehe. No I wasn't banned - This guy just talked nonsense for two hours and then tried to cover his but afterwards. I knew that contacting Live Help was a waste of time but there was such massive destruction from the Linden Rolling Restart that I had to say something.

I really think they should replace all of my no-copy items they deleted off the grid. I hope my letters to the Bosses make something happen. They deleted at least 100 USD worth of stuff and then this guy denies it.


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07-14-2008 00:08
gotta say, ive contacted live help only twice...and both times was really impressed with the help i received..I got guy Linden on one occasion- he rocked...as did the other guy (are we allowed to name them if they arent a linden?)
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07-14-2008 00:10
From: Damien1 Thorne
Kiss up. :p
O.o that was mean! :p
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07-14-2008 05:06
I have to say that the few times have contacted Live Help, they have been very helpful.

Just don't mention Orange Customer Service to me right now - I might just burst a blood vessel! :mad:
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07-14-2008 07:02
From: Lias Leandros
Hehe. No I wasn't banned - This guy just talked nonsense for two hours and then tried to cover his but afterwards. I knew that contacting Live Help was a waste of time but there was such massive destruction from the Linden Rolling Restart that I had to say something.

I really think they should replace all of my no-copy items they deleted off the grid. I hope my letters to the Bosses make something happen. They deleted at least 100 USD worth of stuff and then this guy denies it.


Can you not get them to do a rollback?
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Lias Leandros
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07-14-2008 07:54
From: HoneyBear Lilliehook
Can you not get them to do a rollback?

Lias_Leandros: I have over 16,000 Meters here
Lias_Leandros: 4 venues
Lias_Leandros: tables, dance balls, water from pools
Lias_Leandros: all gone
Live Help: is that mainland?
Lias_Leandros: 3,500L orchestra podiums
Lias_Leandros: yes
Lias_Leandros: when you did rolling restart you messed up all of my builds
Lias_Leandros: I need a roll back
Live Help: one moment please
Live Help: Joppa: it doesn't look like a rollback is going to be possible.. both because it is a mainland region and because it has been so long since the restart
Live Help: what is the exact name of one of the custom items you have lost please?
Lias_Leandros: VooDoo DJ Booth
Lias_Leandros: VooDoo Host Podium
Lias_Leandros: Date Bar Host Podium
Lias_Leandros: Club School Host Podium
Lias_Leandros: VooDoo Popper
Lias_Leandros: Date Bar Popper
Live Help: nope.. didn't find any of those Podiums
Lias_Leandros: they exist
Lias_Leandros: I had owned them
Lias_Leandros: from Top Tank
Lias_Leandros: and my custon one of a kind DJ Booth
Live Help: absolutely.. i'm not saying you didn't own them, just that i couldn'[t find them anywhere in your inventory
Lias_Leandros: Of course they arent in my inventory
Lias_Leandros: you deleted them when you did the rollback
Live Help: i'm trying, but it looks as though the rollback isn't going to happen

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It just got more stupid after that *sigh*. Amazingly Linden Lab is allowed to delete 100 USD of virtual items I paid real money for without any recourse.

He told me to go to the Beta Grid and see if the items are in my inventory there. Then submit a ticket to get them back. I had submitted a ticket two weeks ago about one missing item and all they did was send me directions on how to clear my cache. Not once did they try to retrieve the item.

I did try to log into the Beta Grid. It would not accept my password. I dread calling Live Help again for Part Two of Gibberish and Aggravation.
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Ghosty Kips
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07-14-2008 11:34
Live Help is allowed to delete help logs!? :confused:

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07-14-2008 11:52
From: 3Ring Binder
if you get someone on live chat that cannot help you, save the name, then end the chat. come back the next day and try again, and also report the person who was unable to help you, and why.

Oh yeah.. my method is similar, there is one who I always have to argue with like I'm an idiot when he's on the desk I just say never mind... and come back later.
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07-14-2008 12:41
From: Ghosty Kips
Live Help is allowed to delete help logs!? :confused:

... every day, a new level of awareness overtakes me. Amazing.


Yes I find this surprising. I have chat logs from all my dealings with LL in the Parature system, I didn't think they could remove them. Perhaps I should store them elsewhere.
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