Could a world government ever work in SL ?

Debating science with rhetoric, while fun, is ultimately always unsuccessful.

Did I say anything about your autism? No, so don't bring it up as if I should treat you any differently than anyone else here...that's completely not fair.

And I have plenty of empathy...but I can still laugh my ass off watching a Mel Brooks movie.

But it's simply not true...my examples are no worse than your's. Two identical twins eating differently does not assure height relation...like you said, there are too many variables.

Look everyone...I don't make this stuff up. I read, I go to school, I debate and discuss...just because my name is Bigwig doesn't mean you have to find a way to disagree...

And it's funny...when you can't disagree with me...you find a way to insult me. Some of you are so oblivious...

God people...haven't you been in intelligent debates before? You act like it's a new thing to you...like something you saw on Court TV or the News.

I'm not taking all this time to express my thoughts because I simply like to debate...nor do I feel like I treat this like a politician...

I'm very passionate about life...and that bleeds into everything I do. Politicians are sterile...my posts are far from sterile.

We are all passive aggressive at times...I for one can admit that.

Understand, it is nearly impossible to always clarify every statement I make--I assume for the most part that many of you can think outside the box, or at least not so linearly.

Your example is markedly different than mine. Two identical twins show only a minor variation in height if raised together. While siblings can exhibit quite a lot.

The study of changes in human height called Auxology.

http://www.oberlin.edu/alummag/oamcurrent/oam_may99/tall.html

A great quote in that little summary

Well you got THAT one right, anyway

Inc

Bingo, Protein is the magic pill in the height question. The average serf very seldom ate meat, maybe on a major holiday if his master was feeling generous.

My daughter right before she starts her growth spurts always hones in on the protein and calcium in her meals. She eats most foods, but right before she starts growing she consumes lots of protein. Maybe it is instinct?

Does anyone want to talk about the philosophy and mechanics of SL governance, or should we stick the fork in it ?

The best diet for human growth and the best diet for human longevity are not necessarily the same.

So "eating right" is meaningless in average height. Its more, "what nutrients was the body deprived of that it needed for growth".

As Chris mentioned protein is a big one.

want to borrow one Steve?

Michael, I've defended you in the past when I thought you were unfairly attacked, but I think that you're just sideways on this one. Her examples were citing to legitimate scientific studies, one of which she has just linked us to. Your one example was a single anecdotal story. So, in fact, your example was much worse than hers. There is no statistically significant relevance to a single anecdote, but presumably the scientific studies looked at statistically significant samples of the population and applied reasonably sound principals in their interpretation of those studies.

Also, your arguments are often rejected because of the way you present them. You claim to be engaging in intelligent debate, but you phrase your argument in a manner that is insulting to others because it tends to sound patronizing and condescending. Incanus gave you an example a few posts up of a very solid debate technique which you could have used to explain your position better.



I have. Don't let it get out, though. It will damage my reputation as a degenerate but mostly harmless lunkhead.

Begorrah, you really need an A-Z.

A. You think it's funny that someone had to take anti-growth hormones as a child. This can be very traumatic and painful

B. Chas, who 'suffers' from Aspergers, a form of autism, and is supposed to lack empathy, doesn't think that this is very funny at all.

C. Chas uses the example of Mother Theresa, who serves for many (but not Chas) as an example of enormous empathy (this was possibly a mistake on my part) to indicate that Michael is displaying a lack of empathy startling even for someone (Chas) who has had to learn about empathy.

Z. Michael then believes Chas has accused him of insulting his autism, a subject that had never been raised until that point. Michael didn't even know Chas was autistic, so Chas wonders how Michael could have thought he was being insulted.

And we'll leave it at that, shall we.

And never forget that an intellectual's greatest weapon is his or her doubt. Develop some. It's very healthy.

I was merely stating that human biological evolution has nothing to do with political evolution.

Is yours an officially sanctioned LL thread fork ? hehe

Ok, so...where does this leave us? I'm confused.

Chas, I'm empathetic to your plight. I don't laugh at the less fortunate--unless I am performing or enjoying someone else's performance--this is what I meant.

There was some misunderstanding on a few accounts. That's fine...

The rest...leaves me running for the submit button.

It would if we evolved rocket propelled arms.

The #1 priority of any government is self preservation, keeping the Status Quo, or strengthening it's hold on power. The people governed by it come after that, if at all. A Government run by SL residents would be the ultimate FIC, pushing their own interests at the expense of others. In fact, now that I think about it, you could say the FIC is SL's equivalent of a Government. They just work in the background, Illuminati-style. ;p

I've got one of those long, sharp two-pronged forks for use while carving a turkey. Looks just right for this job.

Thanks ! Darien gave me hope, though. I'm holding back the fork for a while.

I think i scared everyone off with my doom and gloom. Perhaps the horse has died.

The reason this is a topic, is because we are tired of LL shirking game-makers responsibility.

We vote with our dollars to them and thereby encourage their behavior.

We all can see that it's all just the wild west, (don't we like a little bit of wild west?) ----is not self-governing and is not going to get better and "evolve," into something nicer, because there is no basic and underlying protection efforts from the game maker, as one would find in World of Warcraft for instance.

Can one imagine a company that actually promotes and allows the use of BOT's on the grounds that there will never be anyway to stop them, who at the same time releases the games code to the world?

Have to change the name of SL to 21st Century Bot Factory. Soon the Internet itself will become peppered with SL 3D spam. Going into SL will be like diving head first into a Brittany Spears, Usenet Group, but in 3D, and full voice, along with vivid behavior tracking technology and corporate spies.

We won't need a Government to control this! All we need is POOF BALLS! With full copy turned on.

The, Boston tea party was nothing.

In the future, Internet Links will become SL links. Everyone meets in the center of the Mainland to see their Pharmaceuticals Spams and the ads for the most kinky Bordellos and porn palaces, while a Shocked nation looks on, on CNN. All the TV channels will jump into Sl and all the media. The original residents will become displaced and forced to flee into obscurity.

So what is going to be done?

Poof em, like someone did to CNN last night. Buy up all the poof balls and let's show them whose boss.

Honestly, I tried a Pooffers once, but deleted it, it is so 2-D.... but I am being driven to where I might start using mega poofers.

In reality it's going to be taken away from us and given to "them." And we know what that will be like. For most of us we went into Second Life to have a respite from the nonsense of RL. Now it turns out "god" leaves us to our own devices and is more interested in getting more newbie souls, preferably corporate souls, to pay him, while those old souls are left to wilt in the proverbial Lagfields and spam farms, with no sense of loyalty from "god" Who needs mom and pop business when you have CBS and CNN drooling all over it?"I-Report"


Metaphor anyone?

"I-Report"

maybe we should contact the head of Blackwater to head up security for SL

It could Never work because there are Too many differing Viewpoints on what form it should take, what areas it should be involved in, More Importantly, what areas it should STAY OUT OF, and Far too many thoroughly Unqualified people who think THEY should be the ones Running it.

"It is an Unfortunate truth that those who seek power with the Most Zeal are generally those least qualified or deserving to wield it"
~Sorry, Forgot who was responsible for this quote~

Angel.

Well .."Good Ridance" ..


I feel not for you man .. but life is life .. /me waves bye.