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Ordinal Malaprop
really very ordinary
Join date: 9 Sep 2005
Posts: 4,607
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08-10-2008 10:21
The situation is really less From: someone You can't run gambling games for money in SL, as they are now banned. and more From: someone You can run gambling games for money in SL, safely as long as you use some sort of utterly transparent rules-lawyer proxy such as Z$ or use "Linden-approved skill games", and fairly safely even if you don't, as enthusiasm for enforcing the ban seems to have disappeared. I really don't have anything against gambling - I quite enjoy it, though I don't really find it diverting for more than say quarter of an hour at a time - but I do object to (a) inconsistent enforcement of rules and (b) people telling me that some game they have invented isn't gambling when it patently is. And of course (c) casinos on the mainland or anywhere near me. Like everyone else who has ever owned land.
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Starfire Desade
Can I play with YOUR mind
Join date: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 404
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08-10-2008 10:51
I don't see how they can claim these games are legal, since the Z$ have a value (they equate to a pot value). This isn't any different than going to a RL casino and purchasing, gambling with, and winning chips. There may be a skill(?) game at the end, but the process of using these "chips" in the interim still violates the rule set forth by Linden Labs.
I would NOT trust some statements by simple citizens that these games are legal (no matter how many claims that LL 'looked' at them or has played them). Non action by LL at this time doesn't imply approval. Until an official statement is posted by LL, I would hesitate to push my luck with them.
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Ordinal Malaprop
really very ordinary
Join date: 9 Sep 2005
Posts: 4,607
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08-10-2008 10:55
Unfortunately I am fairly sure that this "loophole" - as transparently daft as it may be - _is_ "officially recognised", at least for the moment. It is certainly tolerated. It has been brought to LL's attention repeatedly and no action has been taken.
It is vaguely possible that at some point in the future a Linden may wake up and think "no hold on a second this is silly" and ban anything using it, but all that will mean is that a lot of objects get returned, and in the near future it isn't all that likely.
There will never be an official statement by LL as to what is and isn't approved - they deny even that there is an "approved systems" list at all, when everything from failure of all ARs on certain systems, to more specific gossip, indicates that there is (even if it is a very informal one).
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Chris Norse
Loud Arrogant Redneck
Join date: 1 Oct 2006
Posts: 5,735
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08-10-2008 13:13
From: Tristin Mikazuki It would be an ad IF and only IF I owned or operated gambling in sl I dont but I do play the machines.. must be awaful to know someone is having fun gambling in sl for ya huh?  Honestly, I don't give a shit what you do. But yes it was an ad.
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