Help! Skin genital area gets buggy....

I think it describes the problem well.

And its Friday so this thread was pre-destined.

well if they get a new mesh they can also fix that dent between the breasts,

The weird shadows beside the nose,

The rather weird geometry of the butt if you make the hips long, as well as some of the shapes involved down at the bottom.

And make it so you can add a lot curves more realisstically to better simulate bigger sizes.

I agree, I would gladly start over..

That nose thing drives me insane! I don't often show my "bits" but my nose is always there.

*giggles*

Yes, the prim female bits that Winter Ventura sells do look pretty good. Do a search for her name, and her profile has a link to her store.

However, even prim parts will have issues with some positions that an avatar assumes when "pole dancing". What looks great when standing or when in a normal pose ball position for pixel bumping may be out of position or odd looking in some of the more extreme dance poses. And limitations in the avatar mesh structure still badly distort hip joints and other joints when assuming poses that are anything other than simple stand/sit/walk positions.

The bottom line here is that making the genital area highly detailed was one of the furthest things from the minds of SL's original avatar designers. If they had given it even a moment's thought, they would have designed far better UV mapping in that area, and elsewhere on the avatar body. Clearly they didn't consider it important, and we all have to live with the results.

Revising the avatar mesh and UV mapping to a higher resolution would work, but you would end up with the same problem that happens with Poser mdels. What works fine for clothes and skins for Victoria 1.0 won't work at all on Victoria 4.2. So you end up having to buy a whole new wardrobe for the new avatar. And if you did it in such a way as to just replace the existing avatar with a "better" one, then all the clothes and skins now in existence would become worthless.

To introduce a better avatar mesh, they need to make it possible to choose *which* avatar model you want to base your avatar on. Right now, 100% of all SL avatars start with the "Ruth" avatar and mesh. Even the males. Then various slider choices change that shape to what you want. But there is no technical reason that you couldn't offer a choice when creating a new skin and/or shape, to allow it to be made with a BETTER base model avatar. The question is... How well would that avatar be able to co-exist with existing SL content? Let's assume they made a "Ruth 2.0", with a higher resolution skin, higher poly count body mesh, and perhaps better defined joint structure and attachment point selection. Would it be able to wear the old clothes at all? Would animations and pose balls work with it? Could a Ruth 2.0 avatar hug a Ruth 1.0 avatar? It's one thing for a 3D artist to choose to upgrade to Victoria 4.2, and buy new clothes for a 3D rendering scene. They only have to interact with what is in the camera view at that moment. But when you are interacting with an entire virtual world, it becomes far more complex to upgrade the avatar basics.

well yeah i vote for this.

I'm sure I could scrape up enough for a New UV map/Mesh bikini and just hang out at the beach.

*sigh* The love that dare not speak its name.

Updating the Mesh and obsoleting everything would have one benefit -

It would also obsolete all of the "freebies" most of which basically amount to stolen content.

Only to comfort and reassure her.

How long do you think it will take to replace the old stolen content with new stolen content freebies?

couple days

lol

Course if LL was serious about IP rights, they could use the fresh start to implement some sort of new policy ..

I'd be willing to rework all my mesh textures if it meant that a prettier, better made avatar!

It's kinda bad when the 3d artist that his my husband looks a the avatar and says, "Hmm.. looks like a tech-type did that." And then the complaint moved on to the lack of a neck attachment point...

what? sharp edgy butts are teh hawtness!!1BBQ

and the triangle spots? maybe its the SL clap?

That's funnier than what I was going to post

Don't I know you?

/me waves

Actually just the opposite. take off any pants or undewear, the texturing will stretch and bleed in that area.

someone mentioned creating a pubic underwear layer, that will not help, due to the fact that the underwear or any clothes, are created using the same mesh as the skin is, so you will have the same stretching issues.

welcome to SL

The Lindens got access to all our inventory they could easily think of inventory patch for all the clothes and skins to update their poly whatevers..
Or maybe they can't.
I have been trying to draw a whole lot of detail in the male private regions of the skin
no I won't share the skin here due to it isn't pg....but the only difference to male pelvic
region compared to female is their appears to be something higher in that region...
thought lot and hard on folds male and female and uv bodies...issue is get right "tones" so if you were zoomed in or semi zoomed you could see realistic details there...
but I assume most skinners don't want to spend that much time in between the legs of avatar skins...
I can't share the skin but I did notice certain texturing in certain spots do blur.
I am not Professional nor formally trained at understanding all these things I am just artist.
I don't know who made your skin but there are Professional skinners here but most of
those who create here are like myself just Artistic hobbyist who don't make perfect
things all the time..
I noticed this problem with my bikini's when stretched in certain way I figured it was in-experience... like this

So you are drawing a penis on the actual skin? no attachment needed.. unless.. then good lord 2 penis with an attachment... hmm interesting.. freakishly so. I would love to see this.. can you send me a pic?

No attachment all pixels no 3d prim sticking through pants...good for nude beaches or when you or your guy friends wants something there but doesn't want to be excited...
I am just working on personal skin for myself right now.... its got some issues.
Difficult is getting all the details in right places.
No attachment. I don't personally need one but if I do it to sell I have to come up with one that would work with and without attachments...but personally I am designing it for a guy who isn't necessary wanting a erection or attachment but wants something realistic there...it is more of art experiment for me.
It could also possibly work as female thing too...
I don't know if I just want to share the photos with just anyone just in case I actually do start selling it.
I have only shown my closest friends the entire skin at this point.
Big problem I got is the shaft is currently curled downward in way I don't like how it looks yet more like a female with well endowed womanhood so to speak.
The anal areas are being tricky too.
I guess it could work for a transgender/ pre-op ts male to female or female to male skin.

Darn steroids...!

Yep its woman or man on those darn prim steriods...take your pick. haha

Did you want to?

NSFW: http://uncensored.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=390145

no offense to winter
but I have always found the prim genitals rather creepy, both male and female

I say people are better off using their imaginations

but to each their own, obviously there is a market else people would not make them and sell them

At least Winter's doesn't look like it's made out of Play-Doh, though.