Object v. Texture Permissions

IIRC as long as the textures aren't in the prims inventory (just applied), the object does not develop new usage restrictions, regardless of the texture permissions in the creators inventory.

Am fairly confused about setting perms too. I need to learn this before I try to sell things with perms on them. Right now anything I make is free. I'm still in practise mode. Might be there soon, but even then I will do freebies.

I do need to learn this though. I want to make all my own textures but might begin by using other people's and I don't want anyone to be able to steal them out of the object. So I need to learn how to set texture perms without affecting the perm of the object itself, too.

Phew.

just tried it an you're right. I put one texture that was no copy and one no trans and it let me bounce it around a few avs without a murmur.

Also when it came back to me I checked the textures and found that the act of dropping a texture onto a prim actually only gives it the uuid as one of the textures when checked showed me the first instance of that texture in my inventory rather than the one with the restricted perms.

The suggestion that has carried most weight so far is a simple extra button that opens a built in read-only notecard that lists all the creators, the license used, and the final license for what the object can and cannot be used for.

Suppose now you want to limit that chair beyond the SL permission system, and restrict the use of that chair to SL only, and not allow anyone to transfer it to an Opensim grid.

All these scenarios are crying out for something that goes beyond the SL permission system.

How can I paint a prim with a texture that's no-transfer to me without the prim getting that no-trans texture asset stuffed inside the prim, making it impossible to transfer the prim? (I can do it with a script and the UUID of the no-transfer texture, but... in the Build tool?)

(If this is about textures that are full-perm to me and only restricted perm to the next owner, then yeah, it works like that. But I thought Void was talking about perms "in the creator's inventory."

Creators who use components are under no obligation to acknowledge where their components came from (just like rl) and from what I've seen down the years here are very unlikely to change that approach.

Actually, things are a lot more complex than that in RL. Have a look at the copyright notices on just about any non-trivial software these days. For example, in http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306819 we see acknowledgments for:

Mark H. Colburn
The USENIX Association
The University of California (and its contributors)
Greg Roelofs
Hewlett-Packard
The University of Southern California
Luigi Rizzo
Phil Karn
Robert MorelosZaragoza
Hari Thirumoorthy
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
The University of Michigan

True, but I always assume these were part of an acknowledgement of the collaboration rather than paid for services or goods - if that makes sense.

Anyone now buying your chair sees you, and only you, as the creator (hardly fair on all the others who contributed via their textures, scripts and animations, is it?).

How can I paint a prim with a texture that's no-transfer to me without the prim getting that no-trans texture asset stuffed inside the prim, making it impossible to transfer the prim?

you can't use the texture window.... instead you have to drag your copy of the texture to the face of the inworld object you want to texture, which applies it, but doesn't put it in inventory.

In that case you don't have to do anything. It is already a violation of copyright to transfer anything from Second Life to another grid without the creator's explicit permission. And, no, "full perm" does not constitute such permission.

http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-701

Are you certain about that? Is this your understanding of copyright law, or are you quoting something in the TOS or CS? Do you have a link or reference?

Programs such as Second Inventory allow you to move objects to Opensim where either you are the creator or the object is full perm. If what you say is true then they should block the transfer of full-perm objects (as getting something in writing from an original creator cannot be made to work with software of this nature) and limit transfers to self-created objects only, and SL should ban their product until it does.

Rock

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If what you say is true then they should block the transfer of full-perm objects (as getting something in writing from an original creator cannot be made to work with software of this nature) and limit transfers to self-created objects only, and SL should ban their product until it does.

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Programs such as Second Inventory allow you to move objects to Opensim where either you are the creator or the object is full perm. If what you say is true then they should block the transfer of full-perm objects

I just don't get that result with textures that are no-transfer to me. They always end up in the object's contents, unless I paint by script (which would presumably violate the permission, were I to transfer the painted prim).