SL Groups

Yes, you're right. Ultimately, you can't mandate "responsibility": it's about free will and choice, so everyone DOES have to make their own determinations.

I will admit to being one of those people with an interest in fantasized rape RP in the vitim role. It does not in any way shape or form mean I have a RL predilection for it! So, if I know this is true for me, it must be true for others. I also feel it is probably true for the agressor role also.

As for racist groups or fundamentalists groups, I would not want to set up shop there. They are not my interest. I might however feel safe enough in SL to discuss these touchy issues in a way I might not be able to in RL. Not that I think I would change any of thier minds, but I am basically an optimist.

Yes, SL is a part of RL. It doesn't have exactly the same boundaries and shape though. Thank goodness.

Certain groups ARE abhorrent - racist groups among them. I would count the groups you mentioned as racist. (And misogynist.)

I've seen a few avs with groups like that in world. I think the person probably gets off a bit on the thought that others might read those titles and feel upset or distressed or repulsed. The carefully chosen wording is a tipoff.

It's an anti-social thing to do, to be sure. One can read about anti-social personality types a-plenty online (for instance), if one so chooses.

If I had to guess - someone who feels powerless in real life, has little empathy, and has a serious narcissistic wound they blame on the types they denigrate in their slur-filled hate groups.

Sure. But this is different, in a sense, from belonging to a racist group, for instance. Rape fantasy RP is a behaviour, not a belief system: there isn't really a coherent way to "believe" in rape in the way that it is possible to believe in racism.

What I might argue is that an interest in rape RP (or Gor, probably) suggests an acceptance of certain misogynist ideas at some level or another. And that goes for those interested in playing the victim as much as the aggressor. But we are not, as I say, talking about belief systems, but rather deeply embedded and very very complicated psychological mechanisms. And this is why I don't believe it is possible or useful to move from generalizations about the ethics of rape RP (which I dislike very much on a cultural level) to particularized comments about individuals who may be attracted to it. I have no way of knowing why you or anyone else is attracted to rape RP, and I am in no position to judge you for it.

One of the arguments made by feminists with regard to responses to pornography is that this is socially conditioned. Anti-porn activists will concede, for instance, that even violent porn may have an arousing effect even upon those who are intellectually and ideologically against it. The argument is that these responses are involuntary results of the kinds of social conditioning that porn particularly produces: the idea, for instance, that "humiliation" and "violence" are themselves integrally erotic parts of sexuality.


Then you should discuss these issues with them! That's one of the beauties of SL: it is enabling in all sorts of ways. And the best way to confront these sorts of beliefs is to face them down through discussion. Silence in the face of this kind of thing is ultimately a kind of complicity.


Yes, and the relationship between the two is very very complex, I think. I don't believe we have begun to understand the way in which virtual worlds and role playing interact with our "real" life selves.

To rape and be raped is actually a very common fantasy and you would be surprised how many couples act it out to satisfy that. A bit like how the trust and thrill factor pull many couples in their 50s into trying being bound a bit.

I mind that a lot of people here uses Sl just to have fantasies that can be impossible in Real life. A lot of people during his entretainment see war movies, and necessary the persons that assist those movies dont want realy to kill anybody.

Womans that , in Real Life, always are submissive womans to her husbands, never betraying them, that never realy looked to other girls can have, the only chance in their lifes to fell theirselfs living at another perspective.

For other persons can be a way to unleash some strange, and maybe dangerous desires, and this way not to try anything similar in RL.

See here is a small and weak guy can look and behave like CONAN or GOLIATH,and a very strong man can play like a girl..are only FANTASIES !!