SL Groups

I was in an adult sim and was reading profiles as I do , I came across one guy who's profile was short but he had the comment his groups tell you all about him.
is groups consisted of groups that dealt with black men being Superior to white women, women being worthless,all women deserve to be raped , women are nothing but toys and on and on.
It got me thinking and before you tell me SL is a game its not real think about it. What person thinks like this? Would this guy like it if the comments were made about men ?
Would he think this way if he really thought his sister his mother are women.
My guess is such guy is really white and lives at home with mum still but what are your thoughts on such groups ?

Just fantasy really. Some people living out what they fantasize about or what they wish was true.

There are so many groups in SL. Those you posted can be considered offensive. They don't bother me so much. Not so much as say "Shit sluts of SL", which makes me sick.

Add to that the infamous....

*my groups are hidden kthanksbai* groups.. which come at the top of a full list of groups O.o


Its true that you can tell a lot about a person by the groups that they have listed, but at the same time, consider some people join groups for renting shop spaces etc, not always cause they have an inherent interest in the subject.

Although... lots of the group names i see are a direct violation of the TOS...

makes ya go hmmm......

But that's precisely what I find worrying about them, Bri.

I agree It is worrying and also the comment about shops I did think of that but the guy I am thinking of says his groups tell you about him. What came to my mind was sick low life.
Fantasy is one thing but when one is in nothing but this sort of group really degrading one type of person have to worry.

It might be intended solely for shock value. Or it might be a personal fantasy, as Briana suggests.

Since I take the people I meet at face value (and I read profiles), I would simply shrug, or maybe shudder, and move on to the next person, knowing that the person in question and I had absolutely no common ground.

I think it WOULD be dangerous to come to direct conclusions about a person based on their group memberships. Obviously, someone who lists, for instance, a "rape" group in his profile is almost certainly NOT an RL rapist, or even a potential one.

That said, our interests, our fantasies, and so forth in SL ARE reflections of us, indirectly. At the very very least, publicly owning to membership in groups like that suggests a lack of . . . um, discretion? And concern about others who might, for very good reasons, be offended.

There's a reason why this kind of info doesn't make it onto RL resumes . . .

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Agree.

What people fantasize about is a very strong reflection of how they desire the world to be.

If you fantasize about a world where you put others down based on who or what they are rather than what they do, that's very dangerous.

As for renting shop space - I don't find that legitimate. If you have an objection to a certain ideology - don't take steps to support it.

I would think in that case they would hide the group. Like I did when I joined the *my groups are hidden kthanksbai* group.

I'm not terribly worried about people's roleplay fantasies. Anyone who harbors truly dangerous fantasies isn't going to tell anyone about them.

Ok i agree with that, but maybe being here stops people from going the extra step in RL.

I know for sure SL curtails some peoples RL sexual habits, maybe it is the same with the more extreme fantasies as well.

Hopefully.

I suspect generalizations are probably difficult: individuals are, well, individual. But my bet is that in the vast majority of cases, you are probably right. Like Milla, I don't actually worry that much about the individuals who get into this sort of thing. For me, it's always been about the larger cultural considerations.

Or they'll do the opposite in order to mislead. Some pervs are quite intelligent and cunning.

It's not always "objection". I rent at places where I think they'll do well based on a number of factors.

That doesn't mean I either object or support the content there. I'm just interested in the sales...

Please explain the *my groups are hidden kthanksbai* group as I have seen similar groups. I don't understand why would you need a group telling others your groups are hidden when you just simply click the don't list group in profile box. Isn't that just a waste of using 1 out of 25 groups allowance to tell others your groups are hidden?

Sassy, how is this different, in theory at least, from choosing to do business with an oppressive regime in RL, just because there is money to be made there?

Granted that opening a shop in an openly racist, homophobic, or sexist sim is not quite up there with trading with North Korea, but the same principle surely applies?

I guess it's some people's way of showing everyone how clever they are.

Not if you don't equate SL with RL concepts, which I'm sure some people don't.

That's how they keep getting elected to Congress.

Hmmm . . . well, yeah, this is a whole different discussion, I suppose.

In general, I'm not sure how you can pretend that a sim catering to what would in RL be considered antisocial or objectionable content does not, to some extent at least, represent an RL predilection. Also, I think SL is PART of RL: I would no more open a shop in rape sim than I would advertise in RL in Hustler Magazine, and for precisely the same reasons.

The other point, however, is that the RL-SL connect is frequently more direct than might be suggested by mere RP. People who have right-wing fundamentalist groups and sims in SL aren't RPing being right-wing fundamentalists: they ARE that way in RL. Similarly with some RL racist organizations that have opened shop in SL, like the BNP and the Heritage Party. Would it be okay to open shop in one of their sims, merely because this is SL, and not RL?

NO. But that's just me. I would be that untrue to my own rl principles just for Lindens? Not likely. I wouldn't be able to look myself in the eye, if I was out there selling my wares on a slavery sim or white supremacist place. Too much RP for me.........

Same here.

The other issue is responsibility. Can one abandon any sense of responsibility for what one says or does here, merely because it's SL? To extend the point, this to me is like those who treat other people in SL like garbage because they can, and there are no apparent "consequences."

SL for me is not, of course, RL . . . but it's "real" enough in its own right that I feel responsible for what I do here.

I agree, but that is the choice we all can make. In a time where more and more of our real life choices are being taken away from us, some with good cause, I do appreciate that those choices are still available in SL. Admittedly, I can disconnect and rationalize a good portion of what goes on in SL as unreal, and fantasy, probably more than you, and I'm sure some can go even further. So we just have to act according to our limits and sensibilities.

I often live out a fantasy of inflating my head to be 80% the size of my body. (^_^)



Just imagine the plastic surgery potential there. =^-^=

And, all my groups ~are~ hidden because they're all the most evil groups on the grid. Ironically, you'll never know what they are. =^-^=

That's OK. We know enough about you to where we can take a good guess.