Are Sploder's banned?

I believe that this still counts as randomness by the Prisoner's Dilemma principle because there is no particular guideline by which a person could choose who to vote for.

ty, it sounds like lot of fun

The Sploders seem to clearly violate the literal terms of the wagering policy. They were probably not intended to be banned. This puts Linden Labs in the dilemma of enforcing its policy to its unintended conclusion, or modifying the policy to make it clearer. Linden Labs is responding how it normally responds when faced with a difficult decision: Linden Labs is avoiding decisions.

I've seen another "legal" sploder for sale on SLBoutique where everyone has to try and click on a ball that shoots about. The splode is then distributed according to click order.

SploderBot!!!

I wouldn't say so, being the most popular on the grid they didn't list it.

Except that if it shoots about randomly, that's again chance...

The reason the Lindens aren't clarifying things is because they want to avoid exactly this kind of thing

Sploders pretty much fall into that "randomly picked number" to determine a winner. A voting system Sploder? If it's anything like some contest events where contestants invite all their friends to come vote for them....

I'm curious on Bingo, Slingo, etc. These games do utilize random pick numbers, however the players are playing against eachother. Not the house. In RL, that would be Class II gaming, which is legal in many states and of course on Indian Land.

This includes (but is not limited to), for example, Casino Games such as:

o Baccarat
o Blackjack
o Craps
o Faro
o Keno
o Pachinko
o Pai Gow
o Poker
o Roulette
o Sic Bo
o Slot machines


I don't think anyone thinks of Sploders as Casino Games. And doesn't it look like the "but is not limited to), for example" is referring to the names in the list and not to the words "Casino Games"? I'm really not sure about Sploders though, as I never went in many casinos, but of the ones I did go in, I don't remember Sploders in them, just a lot of games standing on the floor.

So I think the question is....are Sploders Casino Games or just Club Games/Entertainment?

Good question. I think they fall more in the category of Games/Entertainment because they are in clubs everywhere.. (or they were at one time) and not a casino game IMHO

They say casino games....

And yes...I too believe they are avoiding this decision and making lots of residents unhappy in the delay of a simple answer.

I agree that most of us view sploders more as entertainment not gambling. However, if RL clubs provided something like a sploder I'm very certain it would be considered gambling and would be shut down. That gives you the answer, IMO

Actually your answer is as good as us saying they are not gambling. Not coming from a Linden....so don't count as "official"

So no...that does not give me the "answer"

The Linden Answer a thread poster who asked directly was, I beleive -

"We wont tell you"

All classes of Gambling is on Indian Land.

Perhaps you should go to Dorian Gray....and tell them that there big Linden sploder is illegal..

Good luck with that...

I think the Lindens biggest mistake with this was assuming they are dealing with intelligent adults.

Something interesting. The casino next to my shop has just been cleared of the gambling machines this morning by a Linden, the only thing left now is a sploder. Maybe it depends on which Linden you get to whether sploders are allowed.

I don't see them as gambling, it's more a fun thing for a group of people. Bingo etc are allowed in unregistered buildings and very popular amongst the elderly here in the UK. Raffles etc are also something that occur in RL events. There is a difference between small fun games amongst a group than people ploughing large amounts into a gambling machine.

I really get tired of repeating myself, but here we go again. If you pay to play; bet Ls or tokens you buy with Ls, if the winner is decided randomly, if it pays out anything of value; Ls to Tshirts, it is banned. If a Linden left the spolder up it did not meet all 3 requirements.

Why is everyone trying to find a way around the ban? Why not work with it? There is a list of what is legal gambling in SL, use it.

Are you having a go at me for my post? I was just pointing out that a casino next to my shop was cleared by a Linden today but they left one item, the sploder in the middle. Not sure why this sploder in a casino would be more legal than others. It's an old style one that has been there for ages. You pay money in and it randomly choses who wins. If you don't believe me, go and look.

I put this info on here as so many are confused about sploders as there are different levels of 'gambling'. I don't live in the US, but do even private raffles, bingo games etc in small clubs have to be regulated or termed illigal?

As for me, I am not trying to find a way around the ban as I don't gamble in SL or RL but I do know that a high percentage of people in SL do enjoy sploders while out with friends, myself included.

If you are tired of repeating yourself, then don't. This is my first ever post that relates to gambling, thought some would find it interesting.

That's not what the LL rule says. The LL rule says nothing about profits from gambling devices. If they follow their own rules, sploders are illegal. Period.

I doubt they're following their own rules, however. If rumors are correct, different lindens enforcing the rules apply different judgements.

Good luck

They are banned now they just wont tell you they are.

But if a Linden sees a sploder they will delete it - theres accounts by people that own them to that effect.