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Treasure Ballinger
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06-05-2009 12:29
From: Lexxi Gynoid
I have no social skills. Which I will now reveal by noting that I'm laughing so hard I can't see clearly. See, no social skills.


Me too, dying laughing, the visuals here are great. Maybe OP should be a stand up comic.
Ponsonby Low
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06-05-2009 12:29
From: spinster Voom
To prove this can happen to the "best" of people ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE1PMdcmfBQ

freeze this at 4.24 ... just what is M Linden doing? :eek:




THAT makes me feel better, too! ^_^
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06-05-2009 12:31
From: Treasure Ballinger
*... At a presentation, we had a newbie who climbed all over everyone, ended up sitting on top of the podium where the speaker was trying to present. The speaker was very cool and handled it well, the guy was a newbie, what can you do. Wouldn't stop talking either and told the president of our board at one point in open chat, 'I can be your hero'.




It is a tragedy that that wasn't filmed for YouTube!!!!!!

:-D
Ponsonby Low
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06-05-2009 12:32
From: Treasure Ballinger
Me too, dying laughing, the visuals here are great. Maybe OP should be a stand up comic.



I would if I could make my Standing animations work right.....



j/k
Argent Stonecutter
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06-05-2009 12:33
I was at Bruce Schnier's talk last night, and he sat on the wrong prim of the chair and spent the whole talk embedded in the seat cushion, and nobody cared.

If your animations screw up, it happens, don't worry, be happy.
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06-05-2009 12:34
From: Oryx Tempel
Ponsonby, if you want, we can organize a little session on animations, AOs, how to use them, etc.

Pssst.... your Forum Private Messaging is turned off...



I might take you up on that after the weekend after next (the meeting in the first post was in aid of a Festival taking place June 13-14.)

As for the Messaging....that's another one of those things we Socially Unskilled people just never think about...

:(

(I'll go look at those settings now.)
Ponsonby Low
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06-05-2009 12:35
From: Argent Stonecutter
I was at Bruce Schnier's talk last night, and he sat on the wrong prim of the chair and spent the whole talk embedded in the seat cushion, and nobody cared.

If your animations screw up, it happens, don't worry, be happy.





I guess that's good advice. It's just that when everyone else is all skillful, a person can feel particularly dorky.
Oryx Tempel
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06-05-2009 12:41
From: Ponsonby Low
I might take you up on that after the weekend after next (the meeting in the first post was in aid of a Festival taking place June 13-14.)

As for the Messaging....that's another one of those things we Socially Unskilled people just never think about...

:(

(I'll go look at those settings now.)

User CP/Edit Options

:)
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Talarus Luan
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06-05-2009 12:42
Even Philip (nee Hitler) has issues with it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy9hQDT6fhI

(at about 2:50)
Milla Alexandre
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06-05-2009 12:48
Hehehheee :p Thanks for sharing! Very brave of you! LOL

But, I would have to agree that none of what happened reflects on your social skills....so much as how unpredictable and often times, innapropriate, SL can be for certain venues. Still.....humor is key....as long as you can laugh, even if embarassed....you'll be fine.

My own social skills.....hard to say in SL......I'm pretty much the same animal....well, human animal that I am IRL. I tend to be very diplomatic, very patience and very considerate. I don't do much in SL with clubbing or big gatherings......but I've definitely had my share of animation hiccups. The other night when I did venture out to a Blues club.......there was so much lag for me that I spent the entire time 'trying' to dance....or 'trying' to just sit. Nothing was working......I finally just struck a pose by the jukebox and chilled. :rolleyes:

But......I've certainly observed some less then ideal social skills going on in SL. The first I remember that struck me, was way back in the early days of my SLife I got a job as a dancer (I think it's a right of passage) and during the interview with the manager (who I'm guessing was like, 22......I was 39 lol) she kept going into edit appearance and fiddling with her avatar. And I just kept thinking......YOUR in charge? During an interview is NOT the time to be editing your avatar. LOL

Over all I really don't get too hung up on that stuff cause I know I can log out any time.....I don't need to be affected by SL.......I came close to doing just that when a
customer of mine asked if I could do some ad shots.....he wanted them done right then and I said ok......in the past, he had TP'd me and I did the pics at his location.....he had a little mock room set up to display his furniture. Well he asked if I would TP him to my island...I said ok.....thinking I'd take him to a secluded area where he could rez his stuff......but no.....as soon as he gets there.....he starts throwing stuff down.......searching thru his inventory......at one point the open grass hilltop was just littered with his crap.
Admittedly....I was kind of annoyed. Furst of all.....NONE of his items were named......they all said 'object' even tho they were finished pieces of furniture. So his way of sorting thru was to just rez them all.
I let it go.....he finally found what he wanted and I got the pics done......but it left a bad impression.....here I have this island set spacifically to be a serene public gallery.....and he just shows up and throws down without ever asking if it's ok.....do I have a studio.....should we move....ya know, no consideration what so ever. THAT was what bugged me......if he'd had the consideration to even say "do you mind if I rez some things cause I'm not sure where the couches are...." I would have said, no problem....and it would not have bothered me a bit. But.....to me his behavior definitely demostrated a lack of basic social skills.
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06-05-2009 12:48
Oh, it sounds like your socials skills are just fine, it's your computer skills that might need a little work. :p

I've been having problems recently because everything is so lagtastic and last night I was on a hunt with a friend and I must have bumped into him 100 times. Or else I'd get distracted by something during a(n interminable) TP, then forget to get out of the way and he'd land on me. It was funny and we both laughed, but I was also pretty red-faced about it. It's kind of amazing the things that can embarrass us in SL.
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06-05-2009 13:10
Looking at that M & T Linden interview it struck me that "not doing nadu" is far less important a skill than would be sitting close together if voice is being used.
I found that the levels in that piece were so low at times that it was difficult to follow.
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Kokoro Fasching
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06-05-2009 14:10
I will rarely sit at a table.. I will just stay off to one side and dance. That way regardless of what is going on, I am in properly animated.. ;)

Well, sometimes I will stand on other people's heads, just because.
Allegria Kanto
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06-05-2009 15:37
OMG!! *wiping tears* Thank god there aren't too many people here today, as I was actually snorting at one point during your little tale... :D

From: someone
and my prim attachments on the lower part of my body got tangled somehow with her prim hair


This might be where Amara picked up that you were male... I know which prim attachments I was thinking of! :p
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06-05-2009 15:41
social skills... i've noticed one thing strange about my SL social experiences...

the space i require around my avatar far exceeds that of my real life personal space issues. you can get right up in my face in RL and it won't bother me at all (unless you're wagging a finger or something threatening, at which point you should expect to quickly lose a body part). i stand too close to people. i get to close to people. i almost seemingly have no personal space.

in SL, i keep a wide perimeter.
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Oryx Tempel
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06-05-2009 16:00
From: 3Ring Binder
social skills... i've noticed one thing strange about my SL social experiences...

the space i require around my avatar far exceeds that of my real life personal space issues. you can get right up in my face in RL and it won't bother me at all (unless you're wagging a finger or something threatening, at which point you should expect to quickly lose a body part). i stand too close to people. i get to close to people. i almost seemingly have no personal space.

in SL, i keep a wide perimeter.

Now see THAT would be an interesting social experiment. Get a bunch of test subjects and find their RL comfort zones... then put them on SL and find their comfort zones. You could run the test with several different avatars... have each subject become a man, a woman, a non-human, and a non-animal (aka robot or something.) I wonder if the comfort zones would change from RL to SL, and among avatars for each subject.
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06-05-2009 16:06
From: Oryx Tempel
Now see THAT would be an interesting social experiment. Get a bunch of test subjects and find their RL comfort zones... then put them on SL and find their comfort zones. You could run the test with several different avatars... have each subject become a man, a woman, a non-human, and a non-animal (aka robot or something.) I wonder if the comfort zones would change from RL to SL, and among avatars for each subject.


Awhile ago, I had a little incident happen and I 'thought' I'd been bitten by a Bloodlines member. I wasn't sure. I was with a male friend at the time. I have another friend, a male Bloodlines member who has a big scary but strangely sexy av, and I asked him to come over and scan me with his hud to see for sure if I'd been bitten. He came and was trying to scan me and my friend who I was with kept moving in between us. I fiinally had to ask him to get out of the way so my Bloodlines friend could have access to my av to scan me. Subconciously, he was 'protecting' me. Sweet, but annoying, and very like RL. (I hadn't been bitten).
Tygarys Soyinka
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06-05-2009 16:08
Next time this happens, don't forget to take screen shots! :D
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06-05-2009 16:17
OK - in response to the personal space thing- in RL I do not like people I am not close to - i.e. family, friends, too close to me. Living in Miami, I encounter a lot of folks from Hispanic countries and in Latin America, the acceptable space between people is normally much less -I find I am extremely annoyed to the point of anger at people in "my" space -

In SL I have never really noticed as Amara, but will look and think on it- what my comfort zone is.

I know as Hera (who is collared) I had some major issues for a while there when out away from home and would literally run after Damien to feel better - Hera is still not comfortable too far away from him but not to the point of panic like at first. This is not an issue in comfort places like the Hangout where Hera is equally comfortable as is this me- I have no idea elsewhere since after being collared Hera has never been alone again - and not an experiment I would be wanting to carry out.

(Makes me wonder - with out wanting to further derail this thread- if others feel this separation between their alts- or if I am just certifiable :D )
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06-05-2009 16:39
From: Amaranthim Talon
OK - in response to the personal space thing- in RL I do not like people I am not close to - i.e. family, friends, too close to me. Living in Miami, I encounter a lot of folks from Hispanic countries and in Latin America, the acceptable space between people is normally much less -I find I am extremely annoyed to the point of anger at people in "my" space -

In SL I have never really noticed as Amara, but will look and think on it- what my comfort zone is.

I know as Hera (who is collared) I had some major issues for a while there when out away from home and would literally run after Damien to feel better - Hera is still not comfortable too far away from him but not to the point of panic like at first. This is not an issue in comfort places like the Hangout where Hera is equally comfortable as is this me- I have no idea elsewhere since after being collared Hera has never been alone again - and not an experiment I would be wanting to carry out.

(Makes me wonder - with out wanting to further derail this thread- if others feel this separation between their alts- or if I am just certifiable :D )


I don't have any alts so can't offer my experience, but, I saw Hera on the Hangout Hud, the other nite with Damian, and wanted to come over and meet her but wasn't sure if that was proper. I guess thinking back, the proper thing to do would have been to greet him and ask if I could speak with her. ?
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06-05-2009 16:46
One thing to consider about personal space in SL is the relative clumsiness of the avatars and the size of the collision envelope. You *can't* get as close in SL as in RL.
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06-05-2009 17:19
From: Argent Stonecutter
One thing to consider about personal space in SL is the relative clumsiness of the avatars and the size of the collision envelope. You *can't* get as close in SL as in RL.

True, but all the same... I've had business meetings in large open-space areas, and the woman that I'm meeting walks right up and stands within 4 ft of me (we're talking SL here) and I'm like "whoa, hey, we've got 20 meters, here, lady. Why you all up in my space?" I don't really say it out LOUD but that's what I'm thinking.
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06-05-2009 17:47
From: Ponsonby Low
But....you guessed it. Another Social Skills disaster: the minute I activated the Sit animation, my avatar slid into sitting position, alright....in the middle of the table. With just my head sticking out.

Now you bet that this would be perfect for a séance; just plop a transparent Sphere over my head and I'm good to go for the Spirit in the Crystal Ball!

...

I'm taking the shortcut...asking you. Any quick tips!?!!?
OMG!!! What a hilarious SL story!!! Now THAT is what I call a meeting worth attending.

I absolutely must have a meeting of some kind just so I can invite you! :D
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06-05-2009 17:59
That is so funny! Your AO can be your worst enemy. I usually turn mine off when I go to a 'serious' meeting. I also try to wear as low prim as possible. I hate it when I go to a class or something and there's a girl wearing a huge swooshy hair and blinging jewelry.
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06-05-2009 20:01
From: Amaranthim Talon
(Makes me wonder - with out wanting to further derail this thread- if others feel this separation between their alts- or if I am just certifiable :D )

I'm the crazy one. Sonia and Lexxi hate each other.
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