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Sae Luan
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10-01-2007 10:32
Can someone please tell me what is causing the green dots I see everywhere, pictured below? This started happening to me sometime after the release of voice chat. I first assumed it was because I had too much running besides SL, but that seems to have no bearing on it...I have SO much less running now days in background than I used to.
*Edit in:: As I move around, the dots stay in the same location. Looking now, the dots seem to only be on the textured side of the prims, and doesn't SEEM to show up on the plywood box texture. Seems to be on all the walls in this room I'm in right now.
Is there a way to make this stop happening? This is making it really hard to take photos of things like prefabs, and sometimes even clothing. Thanks in advance and sorry if this was posted before, and I missed it.

*Edit in:: I should mention, this issue will go away when I relog, but always ends up happening during my SL session.

Please view picture here to see the issue I'm having::
farm2.static.flickr.com/1426/1468350109_3c0f60eb3f_o.jpg

Here are the dots when I zoom in:: farm2.static.flickr.com/1126/1469608258_251ad456ae_o.jpg

Here are the dots in relation to my avatar:: farm2.static.flickr.com/1342/1469612756_445f51cdf0_o.jpg

*Edit in:: Also, I've uploaded a second snapshot from the same SL session, no relog. This is in the same house I've been building on, but a different room. You see, there are NO green dots in here.
farm2.static.flickr.com/1134/1469271690_8ab2d3ed9d_o.jpg
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Lelia Wakawaka
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10-01-2007 10:39
Holy cow ... its the matrix bleeding thru ...
Atashi Toshihiko
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10-01-2007 10:39
That's really wierd... I've never seen anything like it. Maybe something out of the Matrix...

All I can suggest would be to poke around the client debug menu and see if something in there has been inadvertently turned on or turned off... sorry I can't be of actual help.

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10-01-2007 10:44
Do they seem to be stuck on specific prims? Do they move around as the camera moves?
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Sae Luan
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10-01-2007 10:46
From: Meade Paravane
Do they seem to be stuck on specific prims? Do you move around as the camera moves?


As I move around, the dots stay in the same location. Er edit edit...
Actually looking now, the dots seem to only be on the textured side of the prims, and doesn't SEEM to show up on the plywood box texture. Seems to be on all the walls in this room I'm in right now.
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Jessica Elytis
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10-01-2007 10:49
Way wierd.

I can only suggest going to the site of yoru Graphics card to ensure you have the latest drivers.

And *winces* to put in a Support Ticket in the hopes a LL tech ill put his head out of his.....server and help.

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10-01-2007 10:51
Also, I've uploaded a second snapshot from the same SL session, no relog. This is in the same house I've been building on, but a different room. You see, there are NO green dots in here.
farm2.static.flickr.com/1134/1469271690_8ab2d3ed9d_o.jpg
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10-01-2007 10:53
Either your retina is detaching, or your dreaming of Glowbox Designs. :)
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Sae Luan
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10-01-2007 10:54
lol...I was really hoping this would be a common issue so someone might know something :)
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Meade Paravane
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10-01-2007 11:01
Is it just that one texture that causes the problem? Do you have full perms on it? I'd try changing it to default/blank then back and seeing what the dots do.
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Sae Luan
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10-01-2007 11:05
From: Meade Paravane
Is it just that one texture that causes the problem? Do you have full perms on it? I'd try changing it to default/blank then back and seeing what the dots do.


Ok, tried changing to a new texture. The texture I changed it to had no green dots, but when I changed it back to the japanese one, it again had green dots. This is a full perm texture. I bought it at Texture R Us, but uploaded it to my computer to put that black fade around it for my haunted house so it would look dark. Could it be I did something to it that caused this?
But then again, I've seen the dots at other sims, on other people's builds as well. It's very odd.
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Meade Paravane
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10-01-2007 11:08
That is strange.

I'm guessing the edited version didn't show the green dots in your graphics program. Do you have another one to open it with? Maybe Paint.NET or Gimp or some other freeware? Maybe it's some kind of palate corruption/weirdness that doesn't show up in the program you usually use.
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10-01-2007 11:13
Jessica beat me to it, but just to re-iterate, are you sure this isn't a graphics card issue? Check for the latest drivers, and make sure your system is staying cool. If you upgraded your graphics card, did you check to make sure your power supply can handle it and do you have a fan or something running on it? Mine has a tendency to overheat a little and with some games that are extremely graphics and CPU intensive (not SL) I get weird results sometimes that are similar to this.
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Sae Luan
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10-01-2007 11:18
From: Meade Paravane
That is strange.

I'm guessing the edited version didn't show the green dots in your graphics program. Do you have another one to open it with? Maybe Paint.NET or Gimp or some other freeware? Maybe it's some kind of palate corruption/weirdness that doesn't show up in the program you usually use.


No, I used photoshop and there were no green dots there.
I do not have another one to use other than photoshop, but I could easily run and download gimp in a little bit just to see if the dots would show up.

From: someone
Jessica beat me to it, but just to re-iterate, are you sure this isn't a graphics card issue? Check for the latest drivers, and make sure your system is staying cool. If you upgraded your graphics card, did you check to make sure your power supply can handle it and do you have a fan or something running on it? Mine has a tendency to overheat a little and with some games that are extremely graphics and CPU intensive (not SL) I get weird results sometimes that are similar to this.


No, I'm not sure, honestly. I don't know much about computers. My husband will though once he gets home in about 3 hours and I'll be able to ask him if the graphics card needs an update or something. Is there some way I can tell without possibly doing damage to anything?
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Oryx Tempel
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10-01-2007 11:48
That's totally bizarre. My very first thought was "screen pixel burn-out" because I have one pixel in my monitor that's burned out and it looks exactly like that. What's weird is that the green dots decrease in size with distance in the first photo, so it can't be pixel burn out. When I looked at the second pic and didn't see any green dots, it's obviously not pixel burn out, otherwise they'd show up in exactly the same spot on your screen no matter what you're doing, SL or otherwise.

Are your dots always in those same patterns?
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10-01-2007 11:54
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That's totally bizarre. My very first thought was "screen pixel burn-out" because I have one pixel in my monitor that's burned out and it looks exactly like that. What's weird is that the green dots decrease in size with distance in the first photo, so it can't be pixel burn out. When I looked at the second pic and didn't see any green dots, it's obviously not pixel burn out, otherwise they'd show up in exactly the same spot on your screen no matter what you're doing, SL or otherwise.

Are your dots always in those same patterns?

That's what I thought at first, too.. I know my screen will forever have a faint "Second Life" up on the top left corner.. :)

Notice also that the dots line right up with the moldings (er.. or whatever the strips are called that separate individual window panes) on both sides, which are at different angles. It's definitly the texture.. I guess the question is if there's something wrong with the texture itself or with the way her drivers are rendering it.

Does anybody else see the dots, Sae?
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10-01-2007 11:57
From: Oryx Tempel
That's totally bizarre. My very first thought was "screen pixel burn-out" because I have one pixel in my monitor that's burned out and it looks exactly like that. What's weird is that the green dots decrease in size with distance in the first photo, so it can't be pixel burn out. When I looked at the second pic and didn't see any green dots, it's obviously not pixel burn out, otherwise they'd show up in exactly the same spot on your screen no matter what you're doing, SL or otherwise.

Are your dots always in those same patterns?


Yeah it seems to always be in a pattern such as this when I see it.

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Does anybody else see the dots, Sae?


A friend of mine, after viewing this thread TPed to me. They cannot see the dots.
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10-01-2007 11:57
That was my first thought, too, Oryx, but you usually don't get a pattern like that with pixel burn out, and it would be in exactly the same spot on the screen no matter what she was looking at, so that's out.

Sae - on the graphics card, If your husband is computer savvy and willing to do it, just have him take care of updating the drivers. It's not terribly difficult, but it is a bit of a PITA and if he's willing to do it, then take advantage of that. I get the feeling from what you're describing that the drivers aren't likely to be the problem anyway, although I don't know what is.
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10-01-2007 12:07
If you're really the only one seeing the dots, Sae, and if they're definitely not there when you look at the texture in Photoshop, then I'd guess that the copy of the texture that's currently in your SL cache is corrupted. Try clearing your cache and relogging.

If that doesn't work, try re-uploading the texture and then replace all instances of the old one with the new one.


On a side note, it is interesting how the dots seem to line up with the grillwork, but I'm guessing that that's coincidental. Since the grill pattern is uniform, it makes sense that any uniformly distributed artifacting might line up with it.
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10-01-2007 12:07
Ok, this is a REALLY basic question, but if it's specific to that and a few other textures; if you take the texture off the prim and don't see the dots, but then put that same texture back onto the prim and see the dots, maybe your computer isn't really seeing it as a new "view," i.e. possibly it's using cached textures?

What happens if you take the texture with the dots off of the prim, log out, clear your cache, log back in, and THEN put the texture back onto the prim?

[Edit: Chosen beat me to it!]
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10-01-2007 12:16
Thanks Chosen and Oryx, I will clear cache and see if that helps and post the results back here...though since I have to relog for that to happen and the dots disappear sometimes on relog, it might take me a while to figure out if they are coming back or not. :)
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10-01-2007 12:16
Does what ever is behind that wall have green dots by any chance? Could be the old 1% alpha layering issue rearing its ugly head again.
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10-01-2007 12:18
From: Quick Stirling
Does what ever is behind that wall have green dots by any chance? Could be the old 1% alpha layering issue rearing its ugly head again.


No. :)
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10-01-2007 12:21
well thats one possibility eliminated at least :o
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10-01-2007 12:21
Reminds me a bit of this:
http://www.eff.org/Privacy/printers/docucolor/


Did the source of your texture come off a laser printer?
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