do you think age verification will affect you

It's already seriously affected my motivation to develop and organize my sim, from way back when it was first announced, and over the last few months it's just been an experimental workshop/portfolio project to move on to something else.

I'd already been using 'Payment Info on File' quite effectively to keep down the number of alts and griefers and children. Though first reports of Age Verification where widely ignored, most of my guests were informed adults...is it so hard to believe that the biggest perverts were the most educated, thoughtful and observant? A lot of us felt backed into corner, that we had to submit to willful distribution of our own info to data miners under the thinly-veiled 'Police State' threat implied by the 'Keeping Second Life Safe, Together' policy.

The worst part is that I risk losing my valued userbase for a measure that I'm skeptical will actually keep out the children, who might just supplant them as a result.

As a Canadian with the system as it currently is, I CAN NOT verify without sending digital copies through a support ticket, which I trust less than the form.

It will effect me in generally social ways. Me and my girlfriend have clubs we go to that our friends frequent and have strippers, we are devoted and don't pay any attention to the strippers, but we go there to socialize with friends. If I can not age verify securely I will not be able to go to these places, and so will make it harder to socialize with the friends that frequent them.

Also if the club(s) decided to be age verified only I will not be able to DJ there anymore and loose that part of the fun in my SLife. I would then have to find a decent club to work in that will hire unverified DJs if I wanted to DJ again.

Lastly if myself and my SL GF decide our relationship is ready to become more "physical" I would like to be able to go shop for Sex Beds and naughty bits with her. It would be a further bonding experience for us. I will not be able to do that if unverified.

The Following has NOT been addressed:

What is the garuntee that this third party will
respect the privacy laws and NOT store he info unless
requested?

Is LL Monitoring this third party? Why should we
entrust our privet info to a third party we know
nothing about?

What about security? how securer is this third party?
Who do we hold accountable if a security breach occurs
at the third party?

What about third party credentials?

I believe we have the Legal right to view those too.

What garuntees do we have against Identity theft?

I refuse to submit any of my privet info to The third
party until you guys address ALL my concerns and
questions regarding this issue.
I do NOT feel safe nor secure releasing my privet info
to a third party I know nothing about.

How much do free accounts have to pay? what about
those of us unable to get a credit card for what ever
reasons or can’t access pay-pal?

Also it’s illegal for an online virtual world to
require a users social security number for any reason.

THere’s not a single piece of ID on that list that I feel I can trust SL with.

It won't affect me at all since I never plan on using it and don't go to porn places or crappy clubs with naked dancers and stuff.

quite right... you should only go to good clubs with naked dancers and stuff

imogen

won`t affect me but will affect most shops where i spend my money as most of them have some sort of nudity stuff nearby for estate owners to close it to verified only as stated by LL earlier

My home rental is being flagged mature.... not surprisingly. It's set up as a sleazy motel. Rents dirt cheap and I don't really give a care what other people do down the hall from me, so it was perfect. I already verified, so I shouldn't have any problems, but it is affecting me.

Doesn't affect me and won't affect my customers, as I have no reason to set the shop to verified only. And.. I verified Raudf and my alt. My husband verified his too. I may not go to the sleazy place, but since I change my mind frequently, I figured it was better to get it over with, while it's free.

My question would be: Will I have to reverify when the thing comes out of beta?

It wont affect me because I already verified without hesitation. I understand that some can't, but don't understand why some wont. Oh, you don't have to argue the reasons with me here, I've heard them already.

I'm wondering this too, if we have to verify again after beta?

Bradley you sort of have the question backwards. Can you tell us why we should?

That's simple. If you want to continue accessing all of SL without restriction then you must. If that's not important to you then don't bother.

So if we don't submit and give them the last 4 digits of our SS number (in the USA) then our service will be restricted? It is not illegal in the USA to ask for a SS number but it is illegal to use that refusal to deny someone service. If I refuse to give my SS number to a data mining company and am refused access to certain parts of SL that is a denial of service in my book but since I seem to be the only one concerned about civil liberties here I will rest my case and go to work.

Make your rental land Age verified only = lose income
Make your store age verified only = lose income

How many people don't even pay for their accounts? still think you can run a buisness with these kinds of restrictions? You will end up with "investigative journalists" and the "moral minority" as your only customers. All the more reason for the rest of us not to go to your place in the first place.

Age restrictions abound all around us. At least here in the U.S. you can't get into a bar without showing proper ID if asked. Only thing we have new here is that you can't flash your ID to a bouncer when logging into an internet site. New era requires new ways of doing things. This may not be the best solution, but I don't know another. Besides, LL isn't the one denying anyone service. They've not made age verification a requirement, nor do I expect them to.

from ll

If Residents and businesses choose not to do this, land containing adult content that is not clearly marked will be easily identifiable by the community. Resident can raise concerns directly with the landowner or with Linden Lab via the Abuse channel.

Or in other words if is compltely volentary unless you don't do it then you will get repramanded or banned.

I will need to verify as I do often have to access roleplay areas etc to visit customers in my business. My store doesn't need to be flagged, but if you have a business here and offer service to your customers, you never know where you will need to go next.

I have tried to verify unsucessfully so far, so if I can't then it will have a bad effect on my business.

Again, only if you want to go to adult areas.

It's only in Beta right now. Shouldn't affect anything. If you still have the problem when it rolls out then you need to worry.

very likely will affect me if I can't verify. Customers are sometimes in highly adult areas and I won't be able to visit them if my account doesn't get verified and they flag their land.

Keep in mind that "adult" areas seem to in principle include - for example - any build enabled parcel where people might potentially drop and use in-world "suspicious" poseballs. If this is true, as it seems to be judging from what LL said, every sandbox would need to be restricted. This is only an example.

I already verified both my accounts with my UK passport.

So next time you travel to the US, and they run your passport through the system, the chances are it will bring up a flag that says "This person likes to view adult material so much that he gave his Passport number to play a video game".

That is one reason why I wont verify.

imogen

(yes I know SL isn't a game, and I know that you probably don't go to adult areas in SL (like all the other people here, haha) but that is what the flag will imply)

Age verification is affecting all of us already. Here we are, typing in this thread instead of doing something fun or useful.

I think there will come a time when we are all forced to age verify, because all the interesting places will be closed to non-verifieds. You may think your activities are not to be considered "adult", but there is always someone who DOES look upon your activities as "broadly offensive". (Like dancing cheek to cheek, or walking hand in hand...)

Like if this is going to make any difference.

Linden states this is voluntary. Yet, it will block those who don't verify from entering certain areas then forcing people to do it even if they don't want to.

Also, your personal information can according to Linden be "deduce" by others who check.
Another way of saying others can get your personal info. I'm sure everyone is pleased knowing their personal info is out there for the public to view.

An ingenius idea.