Intolerance...

What the actual rules are is a red herring for this purpose. The point is that you said that if it's allowed by the rules, then you support the right for it to be here. That's fine if that's the position you want to take, but it means that you don't care what the rules actually are.

Alternatively, you could be saying that the rules are perfect exactly the way they are. That's ok, too, if that's what you believe, but instead of saying "if it is allowed in SL i support the right for it to be here," it would be better to say something like "I support (perhaps at a minimum) everything that is currently allowed".

I think the question being asked was a fairly simply, yes/no question. Should there be any limits on what private sim owners can do on their sims? It's a theoretical question, totally separate from LL rules, past, present, or future.

Here's my answer: Other than prohibiting libel, slander, infringement on intellectual property rights, and breech of privacy rights , I don't think there need to be rules prohibiting any content. Still, I recognize that LL is a private entity and has a right to impose limits, so I don't hold that against them in general. Similarly, I reserve to myself the decide whether or not to participate in SL, and include LL's policies and the results of those policies in my decision. Ditto for sim owners.

The list of things I'd prohibit all have in common that they're not considered as raising First Amendment issues in general, though they might in specific cases. It's possible that there are things I've missed but would include in that list, but they would all share that generally non-First Amendment characteristic.

so by supporting the rules i am not supporting the rules??
hahahaha ok
by supporting the sim owners i am not supporting the sim owners?
by not supporting a movement i am supporting a movement that goes to these sim owners homes and looks for things to AR?

i know what i said and what i support..paint it how you like but if you look at the rules as anything but rules then you are working around the rules..it's just that simple no matter how much you try to clutter it up..
you want people to keep waltzing in and crying this hurts my eyes that hurts my eyes..well that is your right and it's hers to..
until they start marching into other peoples sims shouting AR this is against my ethics and must go..

now if you want to know what i meant when i said what you quoted..read the whole post..don't lay my whole opinion on a drop in the bucket..because you missed a whole buckets worth..
they posted what they thought were the rules and i showed them they were wrong with the updated version..i said something similar in another post before that one..go read that one if you want to see how i really feel about it..

I didn't say that. Your logic is flawed.


I'd prefer to paint is as you intend, but you haven't explained yourself.


I did read it. You went off on a tangent, without addressing the question. I got that you don't want people telling you what you can do. But it's still not clear whether you think that there should be any prohibitions on content.

If you could rewrite the ToS and CS for a day, without regard to any current rules, exactly what sort of content, if any, would you prohibit? If you would prohibit things because of some law, please also indicate whether or not you agree with the law.

C'mon, dark and lovely, you haven't been paying attention all this time. When have I ever defended anyone in here or took sides? On the contrary, I aims to antagonize.

I ride strictly solo.

Ceka is cool *hugs*

Decides to waste one of my few forum posts a year on this thread:


Bad apple here. *Kicks a puppy and walks out*

my support is for the sim owners and their Secondlife rights to pay for a sim and to put anything in that sim which is allowed within the TOS and CS..

if those rules are to change today then i will support the changes..i may not like them but i will respect and support them.. if i don't respect them then i am in the wrong platform..

ok let me see if i can try an example of a theme that was put on me..

3 people are playing in a sim that one of them own..all happen to be lets say nazis and it is named something nazi on the landmark or where ever the tp information is to get to it..these are best friends enjoyng whatever it is they like to do..
in walks these two that have just teleported to this sim that the people that live there have never seen before and the two start screaming..omg nazis and skinheads in sl..omg look at this place!!! omg they must go they are evil!! it is only a matter of time before everyone in sl is affected by them..

which of the two parties are being invaded?? which party has the right to say who and what belongs in that sim?? Which party is shoving their ethics in someone elses face??is it the people coming in because they are not nazi's or is it the nazi's because they are nazi's?
who has the right to AR someone in that situation?the nazi's that are being offended or the two that feel they are offended??

nazi's or no nazi's ..if the nazi's are to lose in that situation..then all sim owners fall under the same rule of losing content in their sims to witch hunters..
people looking to clean up sl in the name of everyone but using their eyes and not ours..
that is trampling on our sl rights in the betterment of their personal sl experience..


i was painted into a corner and i broke out the paint thinner is what you saw..
if it was a tangent you would have known it lol
if i did not answer a question with the answer they wanted then i would be exactly what they wanted me to be..i just showed i wasn't going to be trapped into a corner..my bf used to call this a reverse when he was wrestling lol

as far as any prohibitions on content..well it is movements like these that have us where we are now and it is still not enough for them..would i want more? no because every little branch of prohibition is connected to a bigger tree..they will want this now and more later..just like they are back asking for more now..remember this is not the first time and we keep losing more each time..they won't be happy till mickey mouse and the kids can feel safe here..



i would probably add content rather than take it away..i'm not into hampering it down anymore than it is already..
everything is going into it's nice neat little places to make it safe so nobody can be hurt anymore by the big bad evil cartoons..hehehehe

no on second thought i would probably add something along the lines of witch hunts into the harrassment section..but this is only a ruff draft so details are not quite ready yet lol

can i haves a piggeeeee beeeeck ride?

Wonderful post!
The mere fact that such content (not officially banned by the TOS or CS) has been acknowledged by LL as being present in SL, and is named as to be included in the *MOVE* to the adult continent or rated adult (not banned outright), CLEARLY indicates that it IS INDEED permissable under the adult rating.. no matter where that may be, public or not.

That's called precedence, and the answer is yes... it IS acceptable to host depictions of "sexual violence" on a publicly accessable private sim, properly flagged as adult. Any and all exposure to that depiction when the hosting sim is flagged as adult, search results are filtered, and verification is required can ONLY, ONLY be deemed as "willful".
End of story.