Should LL police resident blogs? Do they?
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Winter Ventura
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09-02-2008 17:07
Should they? No.
Do they? It seems that they do. They may not so much "police" but at least one Linden is known to have posted ominously to certain people's blogs and outside forums to "make it known that they can see everything that is being said against them, and by whom".
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Chris Norse
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09-02-2008 17:11
From: Trout Recreant No! Leave it up! I like his moustache. I'm working on a big Sam Elliott moustache myself, and it makes me happy to know mine is better than his.
Reminds me. I went to the Red Square build in SL and if you go into Lenin's tomb, his carcass welcomes you to Moscow.
Lenin's Corpse says, "Welcome to Moscow, Comrade Trout Recreant!" or some such nonsense.
GLASNOST!!!! I have worn a Elliott/Selleck for 20 years, the women love it.
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Qie Niangao
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09-02-2008 17:12
From: Cocoanut Koala I don't think SL is really QUITE so desirable that people would be willing to give up their rights to free speech on their own blog and third-party websites just to participate in SL. There are a couple of different ways such a bargain could work, depending on the individual. Imagine such "policing" and retribution were in effect. Some might sacrifice their freedom for the ability to use SL; one would hope that most would speak freely, at the risk of losing their Second Life. Of course, principles are more expensive if you have a lot at stake. So it would be much nicer if LL didn't impose such a bargain (and I have no expectation that they would). But ultimately, it wouldn't be LL taking away anybody's freedom of speech. It would be up to the individual which they valued more, liberty or Second Life.
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AfroduckFromPC Brim
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09-02-2008 18:36
The only times when LL would have any jurisdiction outside of their own sites and services is certain cases of disclosure where a person(s) RL safety or life is at risk, the company/grid are under a clearly damaging attack from outside (flooding a sim with Cosby cubes isn't really in this category, btw) or in a case of libel directed at LL or SL itself.
Within SL or on the forums they can do what they want of course.
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09-02-2008 18:45
From: Winter Ventura at least one Linden is known to have posted ominously to certain people's blogs and outside forums to "make it known that they can see everything that is being said against them, and by whom". Links?
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Winter Ventura
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09-02-2008 18:49
From: SuezanneC Baskerville Links? Providing links in forum posts is now against the forum rules.
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09-02-2008 18:50
From: Winter Ventura Providing links in forum posts is now against the forum rules. Sending them in PM's isn't 
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Chris Norse
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09-02-2008 18:51
From: Winter Ventura Providing links in forum posts is now against the forum rules. Links?
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Jesse Barnett
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09-02-2008 18:59
Links, can't qoute a Linden's post from a few post's back in the same thread without getting the Linden name taken out, all kinds of silly horse sh*t. Of course then it also depends on who you are. If you are the right person then you can do all of that and more.
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Argos Hawks
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09-02-2008 19:17
From: Lowen Raymaker This just seems clear to me and I'm amazed LL has not been more aggressive in protecting their residents.
What do you think? So if I create LowenRaymaker.com and post that Phillip Linden drinks the blood of the innocent, then you should get banned? On 3rd party websites, there's no guarantee that the people are actually who they claim to be. On the official forum, we have to log in with the same username and password as our in-world account (or create an alt just for the forum). In a way, LL is actually protecting your account by not policing those other forums.
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Carl Metropolitan
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09-02-2008 19:28
From: Colette Meiji The secret is to not share your RL information!!! Or conversely, to disclose it freely...
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Colette Meiji
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09-02-2008 19:49
From: Lowen Raymaker Human resource departments at major companies are already reading Myspace, blogs, etc and if they don't like what you've written you quite possibly will not get that new job.
Teachers are reading the internet to better police trouble in their schools before it gets out of hand. At many schools you can be suspended or worse if your internet life is deemed offensive or violent.
Law enforcement is using the internet constantly to research people and they don't need any sort of warrant. They can use this research in cases brought before the courts.
LL already has numerous policies that could be construed as conflicting with 'freedom of speech', as they are a privately held company though, I really think they are well within their right to protect or distance SL from some of the more extreme bloggers. Hey I missed this post!! I am amazed the Poster doesn't see the problems inherent in this Post!! Snooping around on the internet to find stuff on people is wrong. Duh.
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Brenda Connolly
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09-02-2008 19:52
From: Colette Meiji Hey I missed this post!!
I am amazed the Poster doesn't see the problems inherent in this Post!!
Snooping around on the internet to find stuff on people is wrong.
Duh. Besides the fact that looking for problems concerning RL employment , school and legal matters is a bit different from spying on what people do and say about a computer game. Another one of those tired SL/RL analogies that just don't quite make it.
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Colette Meiji
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09-02-2008 19:54
From: Brenda Connolly Besides the fact that looking for problems concerning RL employment , school and legal matters is a bit different from spying on what people do and say about a computer game.
Another one of those tired SL/RL analogies that just don't quite make it. yeah true. --------- On the RL stuff though .... I think they are going overboard on the whole looking up your entire background when you apply for a job anyhow.
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Jodina Patton
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09-02-2008 21:16
From: Colette Meiji The secret is to not share your RL information!!!
Then no one will Blog and disclose it. Surely you jest. I don't get enough homophobic horny boys asking to prove my RL self with RL details as it is. No webcam? Your a dude. No phone sex? Your a dude. No voice? Your a dude. No pictures with SL written on your privates? Your a dude. Come on now. If everyone gave their RL info the homophobs, the ones in a virtual world about creating a secondlife however you want looking for pixel sex and cybering, would have a much easier time finding their women partner friend. Well then again it could be like adult friend finder where there is 10,000 men to one real women. Heaven forbid they use their imagination or something. Can't have that in a virtual world based on people making it how they would like it to be not necessarily how it is in RL. Is there some irony there? Ooops, I must be a dude for posting something like this! On topic, the only thing LL has power over a 3rd party is copyright or trademark violations. Also people posting things that are not true and/or defamatory can be considered libel and is sue worthy by whoever is being talked about. Freedom of speech only goes so far. However that is a personal dispute, not one LL can really be involved in unless it was LL being talked about. In any case if someone gets in such a situation it should be a WAKE UP CALL that their internet behaviors should be adjusted and they should just move on. That is my opinion of course.
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09-03-2008 01:35
the solution is simple 
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Navistar Skytower
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09-03-2008 01:54
Wikipedia routinely bans editors for outside Wikipedia behaviour. They have banned people for their blogs, usenet posts, posted private email etc etc.
A recent study found 90% of all Wikipedia edits are done by less than 1% of the member base.
That should give you an indication of how "good" offsite blog policing goes.
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09-03-2008 02:01
From: Argos Hawks Phillip Linden drinks the blood of the innocent omg
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