What can I do if I feel I was wrongfully banned from a parcel?

Diego, whinging about hardasses isn't helping your case. For all you know the owner reads the forums!

I agree that maybe a private warning to quit with the gestures might have been a more tactful first option for the parcel owner, but quite probably they do get other trouble-makers and griefers who try to disrupt things for everyone and that's why they take a hard line.

Ok, so it probably doesn't feel good to be banned from somewhere you enjoy, but there are always other places to find.

Just apologise and accept that you might not be allowed back.

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Aes

Youcan buy a TV that has links to TV channels and as for your comment about it being public well unless the Lindens provide it then its not really public its open at the owners discretion

Admitting you were wrong and saying you are sorry is a beginning. Then coming to a public forum to cry foul for being banned in the first place nullifies that great beginning. I don't know why you (or anyone) demands public postings of forbidden behaviour when common sense dictates that behaviour. I also don't know why you should have been given a pass for your behaviour just because you got "caught up in a moment" for your lack of courtesy to everyone else in the place. If you were truly sorry you would not have come here to plead your case.

If I were the owner and saw this thread you and your GF would be permanantly banned from all my parcels. You're being dishonest and insincere in your apology. For your sake I hope the owner (or any alt he/she may have or any of the officers or their alts) do not browse these forums. Way more browse here than post. Your best bet is to hope for the best...........but move on to somewhere else because you just lessened your chances of receiving a "pardon".

I didn't send them a note until after I made this topic, I wasn't exactly sure what I should have done. Which is why I created this topic >_>

And now it's gotten a lot more complicated then I anticipated x3

1. Create an alt.
2. Attend movie using just created alt account.
3. Behave properly.
4. Profit!!?!

I'm gonna have to do that, and of course I'll behave. I'm not a troublemaker

Why would you not know what to do? If you were sorry (truly sorry) there would have been no need to ask for advice when the anwser is so obvious.

I'm sorry, I just doubt your sincerity........and I can where the owner would doubt it too. First, the apology should have come immediately after the infraction. Second, it should not have had to pointed out that it was necessary (or the correct thing to do) in the first place.

It's become complicately x3 because, apparently, you just don't get it. Typing the words "I'm sorry" does not mean you are.....and it's showing here.

I tried messaging the owner and he wouldn't respond. Hard to apologize when he won't even acknowledge my existence. So i came here. Then someone suggested writing a letter. So i did.

I am sorry, I just don't think it was really a big deal. I accidently hit a gesture, stopped immediately realizing my mistake, and got banned, then ignored. I felt helpless to be able to stand up for myself.

I can see where you are all getting at, I guess I just have a hard time accepting some things :/

nothing except linden land is public areas (it is private as already mentioned)

you know you screwed up, yet you think what the owner did was unfair?
They own the land, therefor it is all fair, because they have the right to do what they want with their land.





you were not watching the movie, you were sitting in the corner?? sounds to me like you were also chatting in open chat, and activated a couple gestures...

ever think that maybe it was not just the gestures, but the fact that you were not even watching the movie and just sitting and chatting?
Not sure why you are so upset, plenty of places in SL you can sit and chat (not like the movie was an issue in this case)

If you have a home (which it sounds like you do, otherwise you would not have said "my home", then you have the means to stream the movie, simply find a movie rental/sales store in SL and get yourself a movie...

or let me guess, the owner of the theater let people watch for free?

You admitted you have a problem with authority and continue to claim that the owner's actions were unfair. To most of us, the actions seem pretty reasonable. And I echo what Peggy said - it doesn't seem like you're truly sorry. Maybe you are, but you just don't understand that what happened was perfectly "fair" and reasonable.

You can do that?

We were still there after the movie ended (For us anyway) Next time I'll make sure to leave and save the chatting for my place

I guess that it could be reasonable in some peoples' eyes, yes. I'd never ban someone liek that if I owned a theater though, but I guess that's just me :/

yes you can do that, just search for movies

and yeah, good idea, when the movie ends, treat it like a RL theatre and leave, go home, relax and chat there...


here is a question for you, if I came to your house and hung out in the corner with a friend and we did something you did not like, would you think it would be wrong of you to ban us? (especially being you do not know me, or know what else I might do)

edited to add, doesn't matter if it is a theater, home, garage, ski slope, club, store, whatever... it is still privately owned unless it is a linden owned public place..

Well, that's an interesting question. It would be my private house, so of course I'd wonder why you were there. I know that no one is going to agree with me, but I think if you open your parcel to the public (in this case the theater) It should be treated as a public place, at least as long as the owner has it open to the public. My house is private, so I would question you and likely ask you to leave. If my parcel was open to the public though, I would simply question what you were up to. If I asked you to stop and you persisted, then yes, i would ban you.

ah but do you know, when the movie ends, if it is still a "public" place?

Or maybe the theater was changed from being public to private, where owner and friends use it...

does it have signs saying it is a "public" theater?

People build many many things that in the real world, one would consider public places, but they build them for their own use...

the bottom line is, no matter what the build is, or what it is used for, unless it is linden land, it is considered private... regardless of what anyone else may think, or what the build might imply according to real world standards.


edited to add:

my store is a "public" place, meaning yes it is (of course) open to the public. However, if someone comes into my store and are doing things I do not like, I can and will ban them, I have that right, and I owe them no explanation.

It is my land, to do with as I see fit. (same goes for the one that owns the theater)

Diego... when you are paying 200 - 300 US dollars a month to Linden Labs in tier fees... then you can run your place the best way you see fit. Stop being so critical and judgemental over what other people do with theirs.

They pay for their land every single month with real life money. Whether it's going to Linden Labs or another land owner, they are paying for their land. Therefore it is their's to run as they wish.

Wow I have never seen responses like this before.

The usual method of disagreeing with people that "just don't get it" in this forum is to post smartass-but-humorous responses.
People are just downright rude today!
Did I miss something while i was gone the past 2 days?

I did not see any rude answers... I saw people trying to explain to someone that it is not wrongful to ban someone from your own land, for whatever reason the landowner had/has

This is far from rude, just go check out some of the other posts around these parts and you will see what I mean.

I don't think anyone has been rude in this thread. The OP makes a thread that is basically telling us that he was mistreated by an owner of a place that allows the public to access for movies. He goes on to attempt to explain why it's so unfair that he and his GF were banned (without explanation.......and, according to the OP, without due cause). Most of the responses have been from people who disagree with his stance and explaining the reasons why they disagree. Nothing rude at all about that.

I do think this thread has gone on a little long but that is primarily because the OP keeps tossing in the "yeah buts" and restating his contention that he was wronged some how. Evidently some people need every single thing spelled out explicitly for them.......otherwise, it's unfair because no one told them the "rules" before hand. The OP thinks (or, at least, for me has led me to believe he thinks) that because HE would have handled the situation differently, it's unfair that the owner handled it the way it was handled. I see that as nothing but his justifying his "misdeed" and thinking everyone else should justify it too. That's a form of whining.

All in all, the whole topic of the thread is ridiculously petty. And to go to the effort of starting a thread complaining about it is more than just a little silly. Had the OP accepted the suggestions offered in the first 3 or 4 responses with a polite thank you without giving all the excuses none of these, so called, "rude" responses would have been posted.

I usualy found that staying on good relations with your neighbours, customers and proprietors of places to visit is the best way to avoid problems. If your are banned for some reasons, apologize (it does not matter whether you really mean it or feel treated unfairly). If you cannot come to term with them, move on.

For example, in the place where I had my shop before, a club bought up most of the land and is banning all the neighbours to squeeze them out. Yes, I could stay on and fight just on principle but I'm here to have a good time and there is enough fighting on RL. So I'm moving on and selling the land to a bot. Why should I suffer because of somebody else's banline? On the upside, thus I already found a much nicer place (in Samodiva) with friendly neighbours.