Someone sending my friend "Fake lindens" to get him banned.

There's a guy who's been sending my friend "Fake lindens" that were supposedly illegally produced in an attempt to get him banned because he stole his second life girlfriend. Is there any possibility that this could actually happen?


This is not a troll post, I know it sounds extremely ridiculous.

You could start by explaining what you mean by "fake Lindens".

Pep (I presume you mean 'money' rather than melon avatars)

PS It is very possible to steal someone else's girlfriend.

This dude is claiming that the lindens he is sending to my friend are fake and were created illegally and hes sending them to him in an attempt to get him banned.

I'm trying to get my head around "created" illegally. Stolen or money laundered, maybe; bought from a source not LL is technically suspect I understand but no-one worries too much about it.

Pep (If someone *was* creating LindenS I don't think he'd be using them to set up your friend!)

Get him to log the chat into a note card, then AR the guy doing it and include the log of the conversation.

Yes receiving stolen L$ can cause you trouble.

I hope not lol, I personally think he's just a bit...off in the head. I'm just trying to find out if anyone has been setup like this before.

well the solution to that is to spend them =)

I don't know about created "fake lindens" , but sometimes people will cheat people out of
lindens and then attempt to sell them on outside sites at drastically reduced rates.

I don't remember exactly what the process is, but LL has a way of tracking such things and the
people involved can get into trouble. Not sure if it would be an instant ban. But there could be a seizure of assets along with a warning and or a suspension. But if your friend in no way solicited them from him I believe they could check up on that as well. So if your friend is in no way involved in that he probably will not get banned. But if he does recieve them from this person he should report it.

As a general safety tip don't buy lindens from outside sites unless they are credible.
And if you don't know, don't do it.

This isnt a troll post... they are called fake lindens for a reason. What happens is....

Person A steals a CC, buys a LOT of linden with it, and passes them to Alts. These alts then spend the money, or resell it, and pass the money back outside of SL.

Person B buys the linden from an unapproved source.. and then spends them, resells etc.


Now here's a few facts. Any payment made directly, person to person, logs in transaction history as a *gift*. Gifts, in fact, can be reclaimed by LL if no tangible item (skin, prims, etc) changed hands.

LL can read all IMS. Private person to person, group chat, local chat, if they choose.
If your friend is receiving these Lindens, an AR should immediately be filed, and include the IM time/date ect. If your friend really did nothing, LL will take the *stolen* linden back, and all will be well. If he DIDN'T, they will suspend him for taking fraudulent lindens and he risks losing his account and everything in it. If your friend is a merchant, and selling items that are bought, that makes them tangible, and while he should report the *fake linden* claim. He is usually protected.

This is something that has been around for years, and hits the adult industry HARD. It's not something to be taken lightly, and the more reports filed, the more of these scammers will be out of SL.

~Brie

Wouldn't that rather ruin the dancer/escort economy . . .

Pep ( . . if true?)

I'd be happy to hand you a notecard from Nov, 07 where i lost 110K in lindens for this exact same reason. Client bought them from a thrid party website, that used a stolen CC to make the initial purchase. The Stolen CC got their money back, the client got HIS money back.. and i was out 110K.

That's why so many dancers/escorts use tip jars, and other methods to safeguard themselves.

~brie

Well he should send the $L right back to the guy. Then AR him...

Sure they "could" check into it... but depending on which Linden gets the case how do you know they "would" check into it?

I would AR the guy that is supposedly sending you illegal L$ and CYA maybe do a live chat or a phone call too. At the very lease it's harrasment.

No.

nope...File the AR's and let LL decide what to do with them. The less contact the better.

~Brie

Yep. Absolutely.

As others have said, LL can read all in-world text communications via the server logs. AR the person to get LLs attention then go back to having fun.

No? That seems pretty sad if thats how the AR system works. Keeping stolen money usually ends up bad in any other situation. I would be rather annoyed if I had to keep a certain amount of $L in my account just in case LL someday decides to answer the AR and take the money back. No, I would send the money back. Now that I hear these no answers I would send the money back and not even bother AR'ing the guy. If I got my account shut down because of the guy I would explain to LL the situation then.

And i am telling you what i was told by Echo Linden, from the fraud team, when this happened to me in November 07. Its annoying to have to keep them, and wait, but the less contact you have with the person you AR'd the better. When your account gets shut down, they take a MINIMUM of 2 WEEKS to get you back in, unless your a concierge and raise enough kain.. took me almost a week to get back online as brie. Best to AR every bit of contact, and wait on LL to sort it out. If in fact, it wasn't fraud linden, but an asshat upset he lost his girl, then the guy got the money AND the girl. Win/win. Let LL sort it out, seriously.

~brie

Wow, sounds like they need to work on the AR system as opposed to the content theft system. Taking 2 weeks to do anything about a AR just adds to the reasons not to play SL. No wonder so many are carefree about the rules.

Don't you lose the money and get hit with a 50% penalty too?

$110K?

Pep (You must have given him a hell of a night!)

PS Accounts will quite happily carry on with negative balances.

I believe something like this happened to Furnation. Someone "donated" a bunch of stolen lindens and got the sim owner and a number of his officers banned. It took them some time before they finally convinced them to be let back in.

LOl wasn't one night...was a month. 2-3 times a week. and yes, the negative balance when i came back was 78K. Negative 78K.

I didn't get hit with the 50% penalty, since i didn't *purchase* the lindens... but yes, i have been told that is a fact.

its not the joke many think it is.

~Brie

Actually, I think the TOS says that LL can simply take any L$ from you at any time and with no need for explanation. They go out of their way to emphasize that L$ are not money, have no value, and may be erased any time LL feels like it.

I am not sure it would hold up in court, however.

I have a sculpted & scripted D.A.R.Y.L and he can create Lindens.

I haven't been caught yet.