Pixelus Interruptus
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Lillith Hapmouche
Registered User
Join date: 21 May 2007
Posts: 46
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08-11-2008 05:13
I'm sorry, I'm just shaking my head about some - though very friendly and social - responses. "I *asked* them to leave *my* house" ... dear, you are the owner of the place, you have absolutely no obligation to treat such an intruder like a guest you invited over. Even though it's just a virtual space in a virtual environment, it is still a private place and I'd love to hear an explanation why oh why folks think it's ok to happily ignore this difference. Yes, I prefer a shoot first, ask questions later approach. Means eject them first, then send an IM asking why they were in your home and stating that you don't want uninvited visitors. And yes, there is a kind of stinginess involved for me... I pay for the land, I paid for the furniture, landscape, toys and whatever, I spent hours or days arranging the deco to create a good looking home for my friends and myself, but I'm not willing to provide free accommodation to total strangers. By the way, I love the approach with the sign and asking for tips  On the other hand, I absolutely hate ban lines, and security orbs set to an incredibly low warning time are almost just as bad. I mind people lingering in my property, but why should people passing or flying by bother me? In fact, I think ban lines increase the time people spend standing in front of your property, just for finding a way to pass. But Dana, your tracker sounds pretty awesome, like listing the time spent on your land ... mind sharing where you got it? 
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Bartlebus Baxton
Registered User
Join date: 27 Jul 2008
Posts: 72
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08-11-2008 05:19
From: Lillith Hapmouche I'm sorry, I'm just shaking my head about some - though very friendly and social - responses. "I *asked* them to leave *my* house" ... dear, you are the owner of the place, you have absolutely no obligation to treat such an intruder like a guest you invited over. Even though it's just a virtual space in a virtual environment, it is still a private place and I'd love to hear an explanation why oh why folks think it's ok to happily ignore this difference. Yes, I prefer a shoot first, ask questions later approach. Means eject them first, then send an IM asking why they were in your home and stating that you don't want uninvited visitors. And yes, there is a kind of stinginess involved for me... I pay for the land, I paid for the furniture, landscape, toys and whatever, I spent hours or days arranging the deco to create a good looking home for my friends and myself, but I'm not willing to provide free accommodation to total strangers. By the way, I love the approach with the sign and asking for tips  On the other hand, I absolutely hate ban lines, and security orbs set to an incredibly low warning time are almost just as bad. I mind people lingering in my property, but why should people passing or flying by bother me? In fact, I think ban lines increase the time people spend standing in front of your property, just for finding to pass. But Dana, your tracker sounds pretty awesome, like listing the time spent on your land ... mind sharing where you got it?  You're not stingy Lillith, I've often found your fridge very well stocked whenever I've sneaked in. Oh.. and apologies for what I left in the shower. All that aside though..  You're right. As a land owner you can treat vagabonds however you choose.. the key phrase being I suspect "however YOU choose", they get little or no say in the matter. B
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Cheree Bury
ChereeMotion Owner
Join date: 6 Jun 2007
Posts: 666
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08-11-2008 05:46
Personally, when I have a house (I don't have one rezzed at the moment,) I couldn't care less who uses it. In fact, if I show up and you're there, just go ahead and finish what you're doing. I don't mind. But I also have a workshop over my store. It has a security orb in it because I do not want people coming there to see what I'm working on. I consider that to be more of an invasion of my privacy than wandering around my home. My workshop can also be a dangerous place. In fact, if I ever invite you there, I would recommend that you not sit on anything unless I ask you to. There is no telling what might happen to you. All those half-finished projects are half-finished for a reason. 
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Ceera Murakami
Texture Artist / Builder
Join date: 9 Sep 2005
Posts: 7,750
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08-11-2008 06:18
I think I would send in one of my alts as a werewolf... An alt that has full ban and freeze rights on my land. Freeze 'em both, come in as the werewolf, which has a very bloody but non-damaging 'attack', then ban and eject.
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Raudf Fox
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Join date: 25 Feb 2005
Posts: 5,119
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08-11-2008 06:38
I think I'd have dumped a tip jar in the bedroom or near the couch with a flip title that said, "When you're done, tip the owner for use." And a nice little sign asking them to change the channel before they leave. And a can of disinfecting spray for the couch.
Come to think of it, this could be why I don't have poseballs in my house.
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Lindal Kidd
Dances With Noobs
Join date: 26 Jun 2007
Posts: 8,371
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08-11-2008 06:51
From: Sybil Maryfield I always seem to get Germans. In the end, it always comes down to Germans, doesn't it? 
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Morgaine Christensen
Empress of the Universe
Join date: 31 Dec 2005
Posts: 319
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08-11-2008 07:22
I don't know, I always had more problems with the French and the Brazilians then the Germans.
I use to allow people to use my place till I asked several to leave on a couple of occasions (yes, I was nice and polite) and was accused of ruining "their"good time then turned around and cursed at me yet. But hey, I was good enough to foot their "good times" bill. After those repeat situations, the ban lines went up and stay up. I am generous to a fault and have invested my resources in to SL believing in the product. I sell an item or two a week, but I never will come anywhere near making money off SL that I spend in world each month and if you add tier to that... I am in SL for the fun, but look if you can't invest the $20.00 a month for a premium account and a 512 don't expect me or anyone else to support your "good times".
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Dakota Tebaldi
Voodoo Child
Join date: 6 Feb 2008
Posts: 1,873
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08-11-2008 07:31
I don't have to deal with this problem. For one thing, I don't have any, uh, "mature" pose sets in my house. For another, my house is rented and it's set no-build no-script for anyone but the tenants group, so they can't rez any of their own either. Besides, anyone who's seen my bed would understand that it most likely isn't a mood-setter for that kind of thing, heh. That said, if anybody did happen by and wanted to check out my place or use such items as are there (there's a nice but innocent cuddle set in front of the fireplace for instance), I have no problem usually. Especially if I'm not there.
From time to time, though, I DO want to be left alone. I was hanging out with a couple of friends at my house, watching a movie. We really didn't want to be bothered at that time. Well, a newbie dropped by and started flying around outside the house. He was dressed like the Monopoly guy and was stuck in a dancing animation, which was funny. Anyway, the doors are set to a list, so he couldn't get in. He did rather nicely ask if he could (in proper, native English mind you); but I had to decline, explaining that it was a private party. Not satisfied with this, he cam-sat on a chair I had upstairs, and proceeded to fly/dance down the stairs and into the living room, where he sat on the couch right next to us and started talking as if everything were cool. I ejected him for being a choad. Didn't ban him, though. It was OK, because he got the hint and left.
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Lindal Kidd
Dances With Noobs
Join date: 26 Jun 2007
Posts: 8,371
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08-11-2008 07:43
A "choad"? I haven't heard that one, Cody. Is there a definition?
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Cristalle Karami
Lady of the House
Join date: 4 Dec 2006
Posts: 6,222
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08-11-2008 07:49
With as many cheap places (and even free ones) as there are for rent, and free sex places, there is no reason to freeload.
In the words of the poltergeist, "Get OUUUTT!!"
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Dakota Tebaldi
Voodoo Child
Join date: 6 Feb 2008
Posts: 1,873
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08-11-2008 07:50
Ah...just another name for an uncool person - synonymous I suppose with dweeb, loser, wanker, etc.
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Dana Hickman
Leather & Laceā¢
Join date: 10 Oct 2006
Posts: 1,515
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08-11-2008 09:48
From: Lillith Hapmouche I'm sorry, I'm just shaking my head about some - though very friendly and social - responses. "I *asked* them to leave *my* house" ... dear, you are the owner of the place, you have absolutely no obligation to treat such an intruder like a guest you invited over. Even though it's just a virtual space in a virtual environment, it is still a private place and I'd love to hear an explanation why oh why folks think it's ok to happily ignore this difference. Yes, I prefer a shoot first, ask questions later approach. Means eject them first, then send an IM asking why they were in your home and stating that you don't want uninvited visitors. And yes, there is a kind of stinginess involved for me... I pay for the land, I paid for the furniture, landscape, toys and whatever, I spent hours or days arranging the deco to create a good looking home for my friends and myself, but I'm not willing to provide free accommodation to total strangers. By the way, I love the approach with the sign and asking for tips  But Dana, your tracker sounds pretty awesome, like listing the time spent on your land ... mind sharing where you got it?  Well the thing is, they're not really uninvited as long as they ask and remember to turn stuff off when they leave. I could care less if they want to shag in there.. go for it, that's pretty much why the chalet is there in the first place lol. I'm thinking they assumed I WOULD be shoot first, so they chose the sneaking around approach instead... which in itself really was the only thing that annoyed me about it. I hate sneaky, and for that it's banlines for those two... though the idea of having a little fun with them IS tempting It's a great place.. and I like guests and I like to share. Besides the house, there's also a foggy meditation forest, a cave with a dance club in it, and I still haven't seen a better view than the one from my balcony at sunset. I don't think wanting someone to ask first if they would like to use my place is too much of a requirement. Lillith, I'll toss you the LM when I get inworld 
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Damien1 Thorne
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Join date: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 4,877
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08-11-2008 09:56
I do wish the peeps that use my place would at least put the poseballs away when they leave.
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Colette Meiji
Registered User
Join date: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 15,556
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08-11-2008 09:58
I should rent out that Hotel room I built
At least it has the right look for this sort of thing.
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Cristalle Karami
Lady of the House
Join date: 4 Dec 2006
Posts: 6,222
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08-11-2008 10:01
From: Colette Meiji I should rent out that Hotel room I built
At least it has the right look for this sort of thing. lol, you should! But the people who do this kind of thing clearly have no intention of parting with lindens to do it.
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ZsuZsanna Raven
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Join date: 19 Dec 2004
Posts: 2,361
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08-11-2008 10:16
I've had mixed thoughts about this sort of 'Home Invasion' I used to feel flattered when I would find out that people had been on my land or in my house when I wasn't around. On one of my older land parcels, there were notifications of the same people going there day after day for quite some time. Then I got to thinking, why should people use my land that I pay for while they either tell people they live there or brag about how they can come into my land and home and do who knows what for who knows how long when I'm not there. I don't mind if people take a tour when I'm not around but not everyday. They can buy their own land for that. My new house on my current land has it's own security sytem so I just use that and have my land set to not rez anything by those not authorized to.
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Curtis Dresler
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Join date: 6 Apr 2008
Posts: 155
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08-11-2008 12:31
From: Nika Talaj I had something similar going on once, and I made a BIG sign which "welcomed" them and told them to leave the bed made and a tip for the maid. They came one more time for 10 minutes and never came back.  Send them to my place (Kaw Trading Post) and tell them about the great poseballs. Looking for something that doesn't exist should cool down their ardor. And if they get annoyed, I can always shoot them with the double barrel...
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Lizz Silverstar
Living in the Moment
Join date: 12 Nov 2006
Posts: 192
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08-11-2008 12:53
I used to be pretty easy going about others dropping by my land when I was not there.. But then I started having incidents with really rude people.. Like the couple that were in my bed when I logged in.. I said "excuse me, but this is my home and I would like you to leave"... She said to her partner "You said this was your place!" and TP's out.. Where upon he proceded to cuse me out and demand that I leave so he can bring her back and explain things.. At this point I froze him, turned on damage, set him on fire, and then orbited his flaming, dying self.. Then banned him. Her I IM'd saying she was welcome to come for a visit anytime I am home. Other times I have had people just wander in during an intimate moment and sit down and watch.. When asked to leave responded with "No I want to watch" or "No I want to join you".. Also sent skyward as a flaming reverse meteor, then banned.. Now I have a security system, with a 30 second warning.. No more problems. I also rent a nice 7k parcel that I have turned into a lovely Zen garden.. It is always open to the public.. But my home is my home.. And if you walk in uninvited, you will be ejected..
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Amity Slade
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Join date: 14 Feb 2007
Posts: 2,183
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08-11-2008 12:56
Well, I have been (unintentionally) the uninvited house guest before.
Not too long ago, a friend of mine and I were visiting a place for the first time, open to the public, dedicated to "intimate encounters." It wall full of hidden places for such encounters. My friend and I were finding all the hidden places we could, and trying out all the poseballs we could.
I thought I found such a hidden place underwater. Without seeing a clear way in, I used the trick of swinging my camera inside, and then picking something to sit up. I teleported my friend in. The place had a television set up for porno, and a sex bed that I had never seen before. We turned on the porno and cycled through the bed animations.
My friend logged out from the place; upon relogging, she popped in on a man there who was upset that she had invaded his private home. He grilled her on how she was able to evade his security.
As it turns out, while I thought the whole sim was devoted to this public area for intimate encounters, only part of the sim was devoted to the public area. The rest was carved up for private homes. It was completely unclear from the surface of the sim when I was passing from the public area to a private area; there was just no visual cue at all.
We were able to "evade" the the security on this private parcel because, as the owner quickly discovered after questioning my friend, he forgot to switch on his security orb. They apologized to each other for the mistakes.
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Cristalle Karami
Lady of the House
Join date: 4 Dec 2006
Posts: 6,222
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08-11-2008 12:57
*cheers Lizz*
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Aeslyn Dae
over and out
Join date: 12 Jul 2007
Posts: 453
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08-11-2008 13:02
From: Lizz Silverstar At this point I froze him, turned on damage, set him on fire, and then orbited his flaming, dying self.. Then banned him. I so want to have a go at doing that! Torley should make a "how to" video tutorial. -- Aes
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Colette Meiji
Registered User
Join date: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 15,556
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08-11-2008 13:03
From: Lizz Silverstar Like the couple that were in my bed when I logged in.. I said "excuse me, but this is my home and I would like you to leave"... She said to her partner "You said this was your place!" and TP's out.. Where upon he proceded to cuse me out and demand that I leave so he can bring her back and explain things.. ROFL!!!!!!!! only in SL LOL
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Dakota Tebaldi
Voodoo Child
Join date: 6 Feb 2008
Posts: 1,873
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08-11-2008 13:51
From: Lizz Silverstar I used to be pretty easy going about others dropping by my land when I was not there.. But then I started having incidents with really rude people.. Like the couple that were in my bed when I logged in.. I said "excuse me, but this is my home and I would like you to leave"... She said to her partner "You said this was your place!" and TP's out.. Where upon he proceded to cuse me out and demand that I leave so he can bring her back and explain things.. /me shrugs. Well heck, if you know you're caught, and you know you're about to get ejected and banned...shoot, make it memorable at least!
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Cee Edman
The Dude Abides
Join date: 2 Oct 2007
Posts: 283
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08-11-2008 14:02
From: Dana Hickman Lillith, I'll toss you the LM when I get inworld  Me, too, please, Dana? Mine are good, but don't give me the time both in/out.
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Jig Chippewa
Fine Young Cannibal
Join date: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 5,150
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08-11-2008 14:07
From: Damien1 Thorne I do wish the peeps that use my place would at least put the poseballs away when they leave. I wish they would leave pics of what they have been up to - then I could frame them on the wall.
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