Should Second Life be a network in facebook?

Join facebook, join the "Add Second Life to available regional networks!" group at http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5067079484 .

Post on that group's wall, and on the discussion board. Invite people to join. Join the other Second Life groups that strike your fancy, such as Second Life Residents, Who's Who in Virtual Worlds, Second Life, etc. and post you support there as well.


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Facebook has a lot less 503 errors than the Second Life forums do, and facebook is available to second life members that don't have payment info verified with LL, unlike these forums.

I notice the errors seem to have vanished. A pleasant surprise.

Ditto. I'm not remotely interested in using Facebook, Bebo or any other 'networking' site. It's scary to see the amount of personal information people give out on these sites. I pride myself that anyone typing my RL name into Google will never find me. I like maintaining my anonymity on the net and intend to keep it that way.

Yes they have!

Although I did get a Blog-Loop today already. "Blog-Loop" appears to be temporarily fixable by clearing cookies. I don't look at the blog anywhere near as many times as I load the forum.

The group's idea appears to be to add "Second Life" as a region name, which would be ok, but perhaps a bit inaccurate, while I'd prefer to add the category "Virtual World" to the list of region categories and let the facebook people add names in whatever their normal procedure is - obviously any rational procedure to create a list of virtual worlds would produce Second Life as a choice.

The groups idea works well for me though.

You can select an option on FB so that your name can not be picked up by search engines. There is also a lot of granularity in the search options within the site: You can set it up so that you don't even show up on the FB search. I have it set so that I can not be found by search engines, I can be found by FB search, but the search return shows nothing other than my name and a small photo; only my friends can see my profile.

It's certainly good to be cautious when using these sites, but there is also no reason to be scared of them - you have control over what information you make available to 'anyone' via the options.

If it went the region name route, then I imagine it would only contain members with avatar names anyway; I can't see many using a rl identity account and setting the region as 'SL'.

In terms of "networking" it wees all over SL from a great height.

They've also got it right on the search options, opting out of web search means you've opted out. LL could learn a thing or two from facebook.

True.

I think the main barrier is one of perception; primarily, real identities are used on FB. Of course current users can create a new account for their avatar, but I wonder how many would? Perhaps an SL avatar account on FB would appeal more to those who do not already use the site with their true identity, I don't know.

Personally, I probably wouldn't bother creating a new account for my avatar; the in-world tools and various websites are sufficient for my 'anonymous' needs. I think I would only find more networking tools & search restrictions of use under circumstances where real identity becomes a must anyway, and then I can of course just use my normal true identity FB account.

Oh, I thought this was implying some sort of horrible "mash-up" with Facebook appearing in the client and my having it posted up whenever I fall afk or whatnot. In this case why not, as long as the awful thing doesn't become de rigeur. Those who wish to book their faces might as well be able to do it different contexts, adding a bit more variety to it perhaps.

That's what we want you to think. I'm Philip Linden in FB.

(Crap. Now how do I delete FB accounts?)

I have no use for FaceBook or the like in Rl or Sl but, whatever . If it's valuable to some people. why not?

Nifty idea. Done. Thank you!

I just joined FB, and I used my SL name. After being Sue for over a year, I identify with that name, and she is me. LOL even my husband (RL) will sometimes call me Sue!

of the virtual world option for FB network

also, why not open a page in FB for 'fans' of the forum? We use this for Commonwealth sims in FB, varous machinima groups.. and the Extropia sim also have a great "fan" pages in FB that i find very helpful for event announcements, etc.

I cant be logged into SL all day or this forum and personally find FB easier and faster way to keep track of event notices, info sharing, etc since it includes other tools i use like twitter, last fm, blog feeds, etc. I mix RL and SL friends there and have made some great SL connections through FB.

Its not where I would go for discussions, although there are some thriving groups in there.

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Hi all - as the creator for the group, I think I should explain why I set it up

The first reason was that I find the geographical regional focus of Facebook a bit annoying. Why must the only network you can be a part of be based on your region? It is a flat world, after all. Our local network is also rather boring - I would much rather stay in touch with the Second Life community. I suspect that the top 5 books of the SL Network crowd wouldn't be the Harry Potter/Da Vinci code stuff our local network proudly proclaims as the best.

The second reason was that events are much easier to plan and set up via Facebook, and the "X will be attending Y" notices are a big help. The usual SL way with the note cards and group messages is much less elegant. If you put up an event, you can only select a real geographical location as the event space - which, for example, forces Sophrosyne to schedule Salons in Aachen in Germany.

The third reason was to test the power of community. Grass roots causes via groups have been reasonably successful on FB - the last such example being the dreaded "X is.." user status. Can the SL FB users make their voice heard? (provided they agree with the cause, of course)

That's it Thanks to those that support it and have joined.

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I notice there's a "Torley's Tutorials" in facebook now.

And thousands of members in the various Second Life groups.

I agree on that to a point.

By business necessity typing my real life name into Google produces what I call a "one or two hit". In other words, I am at the top of the search list on page one.

From a business viewpoint, I am quite comfortable with that, but on a personal note, I am amazed at the amount of sensitive information people put out about themselves on the Net.

Without going into too much detail, folk are making themselves vulnerable to all types of consequences. In my case, I am moderately comfortable if my interest in virtual economy worlds became public knowledge, but Second Life has taught me not all folk feel that way.

Providing what they are doing is not against Linden Labs TOS AND broadly speaking US/EU law, I can respect that right

From the ToS:
"By posting User Content to any part of the Site, you automatically grant, and you represent and warrant that you have the right to grant, to the Company an irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive, transferable, fully paid, worldwide license (with the right to sublicense) to use, copy, publicly perform, publicly display, reformat, translate, excerpt (in whole or in part) and distribute such User Content for any purpose, commercial, advertising, or otherwise, on or in connection with the Site or the promotion thereof, to prepare derivative works of, or incorporate into other works, such User Content, and to grant and authorize sublicenses of the foregoing."

I am not entirely sure whether they count the actual personal user information as "User Content" also, but according to that ToS, they are pretty much free to use anything you post for any purpose whatsoever, and even to hand over that right to anybody they choose.
Much of that clause is the usual legalize for "we can actually HTML-format your text and put it on a webserver", which is a necessity for any such site with user-provided content, but it goes way beyond that, with their right to use and sublicense as they see fit, which, in connection with their right to derivative works, short-circuits the usual "we can use your material in promotion of the site"-clause you see on such sites and turns it into "we can use your material. Period".

I am not saying that FaceBook is bad as such. Just be aware of the rights they claim over whatever you put there, which, all legalize aside, is well above what most other "social" or "user-content" sites claim.

I have no interest personally in face book type places but if others are into it that is perfectly fine with me.

Haha. I saw the thread in the SL Residents group on Facebook, and I thought I'd reply to bring this back to life.

Honest? I don't see why Second Life should be a network there, but I don't see why it shouldn't. There are a few pointless networks on Facebook, so...