9/11 memorials

[Edited] I'm deleting my original two word comment. Though the original posting was idiotic, it did not deserve a response on its level.

Yup. Just like there are memorials in Nagasaki, Dachau, Pearl Harbor, the Berlin Wall, Normandy Beach, Gettysburg, and on and on and on. Isn't all war about manipulation? Grow up.

I live in the Washington DC area in real life, and I will never, ever forget that day for as long as I live. I lost colleagues. Colleagues lost family members. It's something I will never forget, to be honest.

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I found The Wall of Names Memorial at World Trade Center Sim to be a very moving experience. I even got some of my RL friends who were not already into SL to pay it a visit. They expressed feelings similar to mine about it.

Maybe instead of knocking it here the naysayers should make a visit. Seems that it would be a much better use of your time.

Just my 2 cents

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I believe the point was that some would rather *not* visit and have changed their lives or their surroundings in response, but choose not to allow the terrorists the power of remembrance.

Yes, many places are memorialized- the victims are immortalized in stone and their loss will not be forgotten- but neither will the aggressive force be forgotten. The Nazi's are immortalized as much as their victims... perhaps even more as we can give name to their regime that is acknowledged and recited by every school child, but cannot give an equally weighty name to the lost. I choose not to acknowledge the terrorists on any day of the year- to acknowledge them gives their aggression and ideals power and weight. They are not martyrs, but they will not be forgotten for as long as we constantly replay scenes of death and destruction given at their hands and immortalize them as a foreign evil.

As for me, I changed my life in response- I turned off my television on September 15th and have not watched network television since that day. It seemed more of an honor to the dead to stop participating in the media circus that replayed their last moments like a sports event flash back complete with patriotic flag waving and music

I live my memorial to the dead, and choose not to give the people who attacked the power of my attention or memories by flag waving only once a year and mouthing patriotic sentiments in response like a parrot.

The strongest memorial is one that changes the world you live in forever, rather than once a year.

How about making a memorial for the victims of gun crimes in the US? That should keep us busy for the next century or so...

Your choice, but do not trivialize the choices of others in memorializing these tragedies in their own way, including through the use of memorials.

Or you could make a memorial for the millions murdered by their own governments after those regimes disarmed them.

It amazes me how some people would rather argue and hear themselves talk/type about what THEY think in these matters -- rather than to sometimes know when it's appropriate to set politics and personal philosophies aside and just shut up for a little while in order to have some respect for those who actually lost someone.

The next time one of you people who've complained here about a 9/11 memorial, the politics of such or anything else of the like, please let me know when and where your next family funeral is taking place. I'd like to show up and criticize your family members on how I would've chosen the color of the casket differently.

My mother in law is dead. I do not hold a funeral for her every year. I mourn her privately and actively work to change the situations that surrounded her accidental death in memorial. It's the difference between visiting the Relay for Life Sim and skipping the trip but donating. Action versus passive. It's possible to do both (as I did with RFL, I donated and visited)

I don't believe I mocked or criticized anyones choice, I simply tried to explain, without the anger and heat, why someone would choose not to visit memorials. A controversial view (as I know that mine is) is not necessarily an argument. Sometimes it is brought to light for education rather than vilification of the opposing viewpoint.

Having ideals that are counter to "norm" does not mean that you cannot appreciate or understand the norm... and it's not disrespectful to air ideas counter to norm if it's done in a polite manner.

You like memorials. I do not. There's room enough in life (first adn second!) for both of us. =)

YES!

But please, more about this and such contemptible, neurotic self-absorption and narcissism tomorrow, and not today.

Today, 9/11, let us remember what is important. Remember the innocent dead, remember our grief, remember what this day is really all about, carry through to the end of this day the remembrance, the mourning, the dedication to continuation of life in the face of terrible death and in the face of those who would be the bringers of death - the spiritual experience of that day, and this day, and all the anniversaries of that day to come. THAT is what is important today , and let us not be distracted from it today. Today.

Tomorrow we can deal with these neurotic little insects. okay?

Remember, because our enemies will never forget until we are vanquished.

But you keep sending them your guns so they can overthrow their regimes and return the favors...

I just went to one,it was under attack by griefers so I didn't stay long. Nice...

Which one, Rioko?

It was some kind of light show and memorial paintings. I found it under events(art and culture) at 5pm SL time. I popped in,seen a million TMNT pictures floating about and left. So I didn''t even stay long enough to get the name of the place.


ETA- Doh it was called Tribute in lights.


Location said The Endless 12,166,25

i agree

Remember that terrorism is not related with controlled demolition. And that the way jet fuel burn is really different of a thermate charge.

I am the OP. The topic of this thread is simply to find out where memorials were being done around the Second Life grid. One more posting where you troll for a discussion as to whether nearly 3000 people died as a result of some diabolical plot on the part of the US, and I will AR your post. You are of course free to start your own thread ... but your concern has nothing to do with SL. I recommend you take it to a generic political blog.

No matter how 9/11 Happened, terrorists or an inside government job it is very sad that we lost so many loved ones so please, lets not get out of hand here.

I'm sorry, I don't know any Memorial locations in Second Life, but there should be a couple of groups annoucing them if you join a memorial group.

NO REASON TO GREIF MY HOUSE, (censord)!!!

Might not be you specifically that's the target... 9/11 memorial sites all over the grid are being griefed tonight. I was just in the World Trade Center sim, quietly looking around like everyone else, and suddenly some jerk started shouting things and rezzing huge cubes with obscene pictures. (Several people AR'd him.) I've also seen at least one pic added to Snapzilla within the last half hour showing another place being chat-spammed by someone (a scripted object, actually) using a Linden last name and shouting all sorts of hateful stuff. It shouldn't amaze me that people grief a memorial event like this, but it does.

Define "hatefull"

Sigh. My sim just got restarted due to griefing.

yea, i give up on Second Life