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Please Help Find a Missing Person: Jenifer Martinek

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09-08-2009 22:43
From: Briana Dawson
LittleMe, you actually believe what you just wrote?? How sad. :rolleyes: There ain't slavery in no stinkin Brazil!

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09-08-2009 22:46
From: Peggy Paperdoll
yadda yadda yadda...
Oh, the Navy? Not going to impress a brat raised in a three generation Marine family. Sorry, squids are for kids.


Well since you went there...

Rather be a squid than a bullet sponge.

You know what else we call marines? FMPS = Fast Moving Projectile Stoppers.

I'll stick with being an Intel Spec. squid kid. :D
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09-08-2009 22:50
From: Briana Dawson
Well since you went there...

Rather be a squid than a bullet sponge.

You know what else we call marines? FMPS = Fast Moving Projectile Stoppers.

I'll stick with being an Intel Spec. squid kid. :D

Aren't these sorts of things resolved in football games??? :D
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09-08-2009 22:52
From: Peggy Paperdoll
And all this because I don't agree that the thread is helpful in any useful way? I've stated a few (many?) reasons why I believe what I believe. And you are arguing over has more experience in foriegn countries...........third world countries..............Brazil and it's lack of sophistication in what you consider proper human rights (or whatever it is you think Brazil lacs.........a little unclear on that point).

I have not ruled out the possibility of this missing person report being true. What I have attempted to point out is that this thread is doing exactly nothing to help on that front..........and until some hard facts can be produced with some concrete way anyone in SL can help it will continue to do exactly that NOTHING at all. If you cannot understand that and can only attack me for pointing out the obvious then, girl, you have a huge problem.

Oh, the Navy? Not going to impress a brat raised in a three generation Marine family. Sorry, squids are for kids.


No, you got all of that because of this:

From: Peggy Paperdoll
You actually believe what you just wrote?


Next time, try addressing what was actually said in the post instead of posting one liners like above. One other person also gave you proof that at least ONE thing i said in my post was correct, which in my book gives me better standing than anything you have said since.

It is rare for you to be caught without words to support your remarks... And i still do not understand the need to reply with that one liner of ignorance.

But whatever. I guess your saying "You actually believe what you just wrote?" was easier than actually addressing the issues you did not believe in my statement, since you actually, could not. Which still does not explain why you made the remark other than to be intentionally contrary...or bratty.

I guess i need to google around and see if there is a full moon tonight.
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09-08-2009 22:52
Scylla my co-nominee. I think this and the other missing persons thread(s) are what ticked off that courageous mud slinger.

Odd, isn't it.
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09-08-2009 23:01
Well to be honest, i have only ever been called a squid once, besides by Peggy - Marines of course.

The thing is this. The Department of the Navy OWNS the Marines. And the Marine top brass cannot rise in rank as the highest level Admiral. Kinda gets them all pissy i suppose since they have to actually risk their lives dodging bullets, grenades and what not, while us squids just sit back and push tomahawk launch buttons and send warplanes up to do our job.

Push button war for the win!

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Aren't these sorts of things resolved in football games??? :D
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09-08-2009 23:12
From: Peggy Paperdoll
Got to disagree. Posting a thread about a missing person that is a member or SL and the person may or may not have gone missing for something, in some way, related to SL would be fine. However, the thread was (and still is) a plea for help. You've got to know that there is next to absolutely nothing anyone can do to help.........we don't know this person, we don't know if she's missing, we don't know anything. Keep our eyes out to help and report it to her father.........what are we looking for?

The posting of this thread is doing nothing to help the person who needs the help (if it's true). It hinders help..........


The ones who post here are not the only ones who see the threads - and then, think of the people those reading it could tell, or be in contact with.
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09-08-2009 23:32
From: Briana Dawson
The net goes down often in many areas of Brazil giving people little more than 56k like connection on what should be normal broadband. The net in Brazil, and the investigation of internet crimes and such is nothing like the U.S..

- What does being fluent in SL have to do with being fluent in other forms of communication online?

I cannot respond to the rest of the points because those are assumptions you are making based on nothing but a rational of "i think that it should be that way"


So they waste the only amount of time that they have by coming into second life to see if they can find any information....? ROFL. your still not making any logical sense. Out of all the ways they could determine how and why she ended up missing they ironically ONLY found second life on her desk top and then clicked it, logged in, and searched for her and any information they could find. Seems a bit out of the realm of reality to me. Maybe I'm a bit more grounded in reality tho.
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09-08-2009 23:34
From: Inbred Texan
So they waste the only amount of time that they have by coming into second life to see if they can find any information....? ROFL. your still not making any logical sense. Out of all the ways they could determine how and why she ended up missing they ironically ONLY found second life on her desk top and then clicked it, logged in, and searched for her and any information they could find. Seems a bit out of the realm of reality to me. Maybe I'm a bit more grounded in reality tho.


Texan, when someone is missing, nothing seems too 'silly' to try. Also, you mostly sit and wait.
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09-08-2009 23:35
From: Scylla Rhiadra
I don't disagree; that's certainly a danger. But we don't know that this IS a hoax. Frankly, I hope to hell that it is, or (better still), that it is susceptible to a much simpler and more innocent explanation.



I found it no other place on the internet when I checked just a couple hours ago. I find it hard to believe that someone goes missing... and as brianna said the internet connections in brazil suck. So why would they log into SL of all places to start their search and yet report it no other place on the internet. I'm finding it extremely hard to believe that they would only report it in SL. They may be a third world country but they aren't sub humans that can't think. I don't know anyone who would just post on SL and no other place on the net if they had access.
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09-08-2009 23:36
From: Inbred Texan
So they waste the only amount of time that they have by coming into second life to see if they can find any information....? ROFL. your still not making any logical sense. Out of all the ways they could determine how and why she ended up missing they ironically ONLY found second life on her desk top and then clicked it, logged in, and searched for her and any information they could find. Seems a bit out of the realm of reality to me. Maybe I'm a bit more grounded in reality tho.

I'm still not sure why, assuming that it is true that they discovered she was off to meet someone from SL, it is not entirely logical to ask around in-world for news of her.

Given that info, it'd be one of the first places I'd check.
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09-08-2009 23:36
From: Clarissa Lowell
Texan, when someone is missing, nothing seems too 'silly' to try. Also, you mostly sit and wait.

It was the only place it was reported. I find that silly. And why I call it a crock. But for those willing to believe everything so be it.
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09-08-2009 23:37
From: Briana Dawson
Don't take it as an attack. If you do, that is your issue not mine as i did not mean it that way. Nor did i refer to anything you said in a way that personally denigrated you so i would hardly call it "an attack".

The forums are an awful medium for inferring what a persons intentions are based upon a single post. It was simply informative with a bit of laughter on my end.



ahhh so I forgot to add the :) and the :D at the end of all my posts I'll remember that ;)
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09-08-2009 23:39
From: Inbred Texan
I don't know anyone who would just post on SL and no other place on the net if they had access.


Well fair enough, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.

I see no reason to make assumptions about other people's grip on reality though. We are ALL mostly speculating based upon our own thoughts, feelings and experiences, right?

Also, maybe SL is the only place they did have online access to - not everyone knows how to make a website, for instance. And this wouldn't be the person who normally used that computer or SL, but a friend or family member, I'm thinking. Maybe a parent who knows next to nothing about online things.

Maybe one of her SL friends made the posts, and her own family didn't do any of it, actually.
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09-08-2009 23:55
From: Clarissa Lowell
Well fair enough, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.

I see no reason to make assumptions about other people's grip on reality though. We are ALL mostly speculating based upon our own thoughts, feelings and experiences, right?

Also, maybe SL is the only place they did have online access to - not everyone knows how to make a website, for instance. And this wouldn't be the person who normally used that computer or SL, but a friend or family member, I'm thinking. Maybe a parent who knows next to nothing about online things.

Maybe one of her SL friends made the posts, and her own family didn't do any of it, actually.



I see no reason to avoid the facts of the matter. Person had internet. Only posted in SL? Thats ridiculous. I can appreciate people playing devils advocate for the sake of a debate maybe?

"Maybe SL is the only place they did have online access to?"

ROFL.. Yep I know of many people who can get on SL but don't have access anywhere else. They have that SL only internet access. Specially those third world countries. :D
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09-08-2009 23:57
From: Inbred Texan
I see no reason to avoid the facts of the matter. Person had internet. Only posted in SL? Thats ridiculous. I can appreciate people playing devils advocate for the sake of a debate maybe?

"Maybe SL is the only place they did have online access to?"

ROFL.. Yep I know of many people who can get on SL but don't have access anywhere else. They have that SL only internet access. Specially those third world countries. :D


I never said it was the only place they had access to. Please reread the pertinent post.
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09-09-2009 00:00
From: Clarissa Lowell
I never said it was the only place they had access to. Please reread the pertinent post.



But you did say what I quoted you as saying. I think you should re read what I posted ;)
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09-09-2009 00:03
From: Inbred Texan
But you did say what I quoted you as saying. I think you should re read what I posted ;)


Alright, I didn't say it quite as you quoted - in your "quoted like this" part of your post. Also you misunderstood and took it out of context. I was referring to what they knew how to access.

If her SL was loaded to automatically log her in, that's different than, for instance, the person knowing how to make a website about a missing person, and take it worldwide, especially someone who might be in a panic, or grieving.

As I said we are mostly all speculating.
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09-09-2009 00:05
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Out of all the ways they could determine how and why she ended up missing they ironically ONLY found second life on her desk top ...


This seems like an unwarranted assumption. Not all message boards, for instance, are searchable from Google or other search engines.


But even if the hypothetical parents in this hypothetical disappearance DID concentrate their efforts on SL: you seem to be claiming that it would be odd or implausible that someone looking for information about a SL user would concentrate their efforts on SL.

Are you aware that many users of SL are so absorbed by it that they don't spend a lot of time on other sites?
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09-09-2009 00:06
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Sorry, squids are for kids.
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09-09-2009 00:10
Well, i for one never speculated as the veracity of the report. Instead i have remarked that people need to be more careful by using time as a buffer to get to know someones true self a bit better before meeting in reality. I also remarked about what i know of Brazil.

Now, whether this really happened or not, i have no clue. As far as where it was originally reported? I have no idea.

In regards to Brazil having a totally crappy police and investigatory structure - google is your friend.

In regards to Brazil having crappy and spotty internet throughout the country? There are plenty of Brazilians in SL to get a real world and real time opinion on this. Does that have any bearing on this matter with this person missing, etc.. No idea. I was just explaining what i know about Brazil.
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09-09-2009 00:11
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This seems like an unwarranted assumption. Not all message boards, for instance, are searchable from Google or other search engines.


But even if the hypothetical parents in this hypothetical disappearance DID concentrate their efforts on SL: you seem to be claiming that it would be odd or implausible that someone looking for information about a SL user would concentrate their efforts on SL.

Are you aware that many users of SL are so absorbed by it that they don't spend a lot of time on other sites?



The people who are reporting it aren't from SL. Unless of course we find out in part deux of this "story" that her parents are also SL members.

I think its an unwarranted assumption for everyone to think that there is really a person missing from brazil who happened to be in SL without anything on their profile, and her parents are now searching for her. None of her friends have come foreward yet in SL? Or will that be part three of this "story". I can see how this could become like a soap opera where we keep hearing new things as the story evolves to make it seem more realistic.

I think anyone giving information should have LL come down on them hard for violating the TOS based on disclosure. Cause this case is obviously a hoax.
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09-09-2009 00:11
I thought your posts in the thread were interesting & informative Briana.
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09-09-2009 00:14
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Cause this case is obviously a hoax.


Obviously by the very existence of this thread, not that obvious. :p

@Clarissa - thank you!
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Welcome. :)
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