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Unwanted visitors to a house

Jezebella Desmoulins
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Join date: 4 Nov 2005
Posts: 561
02-21-2009 04:43
From: HoneyBear Lilliehook
Isn't that the weirdest? They walk into your home and don't even talk to you....it's like you don't even exist! I get it a lot, if I forget to set my security orb. I find myself adding more people to it lately (friends) so that I don't have to keep turning it off when they come over, because I forget to turn it back on!


I can be standing there right in front of my door when an idiot like this arrives and they still march right on in without ever saying a word. Finally a friend showed me a store with some scripted force fields. They're phantom to anyone added to the notecard access list, but solid to anyone else. Now I can just leave the doors open and watch the noobs bang into it like birds off a plate glass window. And inside the house is a security orb with which I can take care of anyone intelligent and persistent enough to use the sit trick to bypass the door.
MarkByron Falta
Just an average bird
Join date: 16 Jun 2007
Posts: 168
02-21-2009 06:00
I've always enjoyed exploring the world by clicking on a random point on the grid teleport map and seeing where it takes me. On those rare occasions where I end up inside a an occupied private residence, I apologize and take my leave. If you don't want visitors randomly teleporting to your boudoir, set a teleport landing point for your parcel such as the front door, corner of the parcel, or if you're a crotchety hermit, block teleport routing or set it for thin air at the top of the sim, 4096m and cackle as the hapless av's takes a long plunge to the ground.

A true snoop isn't likely to hang around inside your home; they'll just hang out 500 meters away and use their cam to spy. As Ceera noted, a private island with no public access on any parcel (plus no adjacent public access islands) is the only means for assuring privacy, although even that doesn't prevent other allowed residents from snooping on each other.
Weston Graves
Werebeagle
Join date: 24 Mar 2007
Posts: 2,059
02-21-2009 07:15
Yeah - this home invasion thing is horrible. It happens on the web too. I have people coming to my web page every once in a while. I'm thinking of just creating a new one and making it where no one else can ever see it.
Conifer Dada
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Join date: 6 Oct 2006
Posts: 3,716
02-21-2009 07:22
I live a public Second Life so I'm happy for people to wander round my place but it's still a bit odd when they just bump around my flat kicking the furniture without even talking to me! There's nothing in my home that I don't want people to see though.

I confess I do sometimes wander into other people's empty houses out of curiosity but I wouldn't do that if there was anyone in, not without announcing myself first anyway.
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Jezebella Desmoulins
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Join date: 4 Nov 2005
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02-21-2009 08:34
From: Conifer Dada
I live a public Second Life so I'm happy for people to wander round my place but it's still a bit odd when they just bump around my flat kicking the furniture without even talking to me! There's nothing in my home that I don't want people to see though.

I confess I do sometimes wander into other people's empty houses out of curiosity but I wouldn't do that if there was anyone in, not without announcing myself first anyway.


Well, that's the thing. I don't mind visitors who make the effort to actually TALK. It's the silent wanderers that barge right in and don't respond to chat or IM who tick me off and earn a place on the ban list. Some people seem to roam about SL with the misconception (possibly carried over from single-player games) that everyone else is just part of the scenery.
Dakota Tebaldi
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Join date: 6 Feb 2008
Posts: 1,873
02-21-2009 08:44
I don't really have a problem with people checking out my place, especially when I'm not around - those times, I couldn't really care less who's there. But there are times we'd like to be alone, even if we're logged in - we're busy building or scripting or (for the grown ups) enjoying, uh, special time with someone. Ostensibly, people buy/rent land because sometimes they want at least the illusion of privacy. I was having a conversation with a couple of my closest friends at my house once a while back, when I rented a place on the mainland. We hadn't hung out for a while so we were making up for lost time. And then some noob dressed like Mr. Monopoly showed up and started floating around outside the house and injecting comments in the middle of our conversation. He tried the front door, which of course was friends-access-only, and said "The door is locked". I told him very politely "Sorry, this is a private party". He said "lol" and then sit-hacked into my house, and started walking up and down the stairs and clicking on various things. Eventually he came up to us (it was kinda funny, because he was obviously stuck in a dance animation and didn't know it - and wouldn't believe us when he tried to tell him). He started making fun of us for being kid avatars, and then sat down next to me on my couch, and that was pretty much the last straw for me; I ejected him. Didn't ban him, just ejected. Thankfully, he went away after that.
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Czari Zenovka
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Join date: 3 May 2007
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02-21-2009 09:47
From: Jezebella Desmoulins
Finally a friend showed me a store with some scripted force fields. They're phantom to anyone added to the notecard access list, but solid to anyone else. Now I can just leave the doors open and watch the noobs bang into it like birds off a plate glass window.


LOVE IT!! Pleeeeaaassse send an IM to me with the name of this store/product!

I posted about this before, but wait until the door-to-door SLsmen arrive. (Yep, actually happened in my first house. I thought it was fun to have a doorbell. Then it rang, I opened the door, and some guy rezzed a car and asked if I wanted to buy it. In his behalf, he *was* polite and rang the doorbell instead of barging in. :D )
Argent Stonecutter
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02-21-2009 10:59
From: Dakota Tebaldi
And then some noob dressed like Mr. Monopoly showed up and started floating around outside the house and injecting comments in the middle of our conversation. He tried the front door, which of course was friends-access-only, and said "The door is locked". I told him very politely "Sorry, this is a private party". He said "lol" and then sit-hacked into my house
I'd have put him on the ban-list at this point.
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Sylvan Shilling
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Join date: 21 Nov 2008
Posts: 141
Get a dog
02-21-2009 16:41
My avatar is a young woman living by herself. For a while, the lock was broken and I had at least two intruders. The first seemed to be an accident. The second guy barged in nude, in an "excited" state. After that, I got a dog.

Penny's Pets has guard dogs. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Papercut/232/208/28. They can warn intruders and after 30 seconds kick them out. I haven't actually used that . . . yet.

When someone comes to my front door, the door mat records their name and says "Sylvan's rottweiler dog Ohtar says 'Welcome Joe Avatar. I'll tell Sylvan to stopped by. Please do not enter without permission.'" Psychologically, most people are not going enter a place where there is a rottweiler guard dog. If that doesn't work, I'll go to the ejection mode.

I can also have Ohtar guard my person. I can order him to heal and defend within a set radius. He is also nice to have for company.

If a do isn't enough, Penny also has guard wolves.

Sylvan Shilling
Dante Tucker
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Join date: 8 Aug 2006
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02-21-2009 17:25
How to stop people from entering your homes without completely blocking access, you have to do all these things.

1. Set a tp point outside your home (or else they will just use the map to tp in)

2. Coordinate with all land owners to disalow object creation and entry on all parcels in the sim (if even one parcel in the sim has build enabled an exploit can be used to build on your land)

3. Remove all objects from the interior of your home.

4. Get an estate manager to shut off physics for the entire sim (or else pure speed can be used to phase through your walls in between sim collision calculation steps. Note that this means no one can move, most people will think they have crashed)


Basicaly if you follow all these steps and make the sim completely unusable, then you can keep people from entering your home without blocking access to the parcel completely.

If you did not notice, this is a sarcastic post.
Sylvan Shilling
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Join date: 21 Nov 2008
Posts: 141
You forgot the aluminum foil hat
02-21-2009 18:49
From: Dante Tucker
How to stop people from entering your homes without completely blocking access, you have to do all these things.

1. Set a tp point outside your home (or else they will just use the map to tp in)

2. Coordinate with all land owners to disalow object creation and entry on all parcels in the sim (if even one parcel in the sim has build enabled an exploit can be used to build on your land)

3. Remove all objects from the interior of your home.

4. Get an estate manager to shut off physics for the entire sim (or else pure speed can be used to phase through your walls in between sim collision calculation steps. Note that this means no one can move, most people will think they have crashed)


Basicaly if you follow all these steps and make the sim completely unusable, then you can keep people from entering your home without blocking access to the parcel completely.

If you did not notice, this is a sarcastic post.


LOL
Paola Delpaso
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Join date: 13 Jan 2007
Posts: 273
02-21-2009 21:46
Dante, loved your post :D

I'm amazed at the lengths some people go to to defend their non-existent privacy. Nobody ever bothered me in my skybox up at 4000m elevation. Problem solved, without any force fields, dogs, guns, etc.
Katheryne Helendale
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02-22-2009 03:22
From: Jezebella Desmoulins
Now I can just leave the doors open and watch the noobs bang into it like birds off a plate glass window.
Priceless!!! :)

For security orbs and the like: There is a person living on my sim who uses bees! Oh, and they will chase you across the sim! And, yes, the sim is damage-enabled! It's kinda funny to watch someone hauling ass just a few meters ahead of an angry cloud of bees. :p

I think instead of a guard dog, I'd like an alligator. :)
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Morwen Bunin
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Join date: 8 Dec 2005
Posts: 1,743
02-22-2009 04:50
Hmmm.... why am I in SL?
Answer: To meet people from all over the world and to show them the things I made and like.

So what should I do not?
Answer: Make my house a fortress no one can enter.

What I think I can expect from visitors?
Answer: That they respect my rules which mostly come down to by nice and friendly.

What can I do if they do not?
Answer: Ban them when I or one of my friends are around.

And if we are not around?
Answer: Most likely we will never notice.

:P
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Jesse Barnett
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02-22-2009 06:06
From: Sylvan Shilling
My avatar is a young woman living by herself. For a while, the lock was broken and I had at least two intruders. The first seemed to be an accident. The second guy barged in nude, in an "excited" state. After that, I got a dog.

Penny's Pets has guard dogs. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Papercut/232/208/28. They can warn intruders and after 30 seconds kick them out. I haven't actually used that . . . yet.

When someone comes to my front door, the door mat records their name and says "Sylvan's rottweiler dog Ohtar says 'Welcome Joe Avatar. I'll tell Sylvan to stopped by. Please do not enter without permission.'" Psychologically, most people are not going enter a place where there is a rottweiler guard dog. If that doesn't work, I'll go to the ejection mode.

I can also have Ohtar guard my person. I can order him to heal and defend within a set radius. He is also nice to have for company.

If a do isn't enough, Penny also has guard wolves.

Sylvan Shilling

And if you go to "Dark Delights", you can teach your dog some very interesting new tricks. :eek:
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Czari Zenovka
I've Had it With "PC"!
Join date: 3 May 2007
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02-22-2009 09:10
From: Katheryne Helendale
I think instead of a guard dog, I'd like an alligator. :)


I saw a guard/attack shark listed on SLX :)

I've heard of the attack bees but never saw them...I bet they are a hoot.
Katheryne Helendale
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02-22-2009 18:50
From: Czari Zenovka
I've heard of the attack bees but never saw them...I bet they are a hoot.
From a safe distance. :p
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