Unwanted visitors to a house
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Cooter Kalinakov
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Join date: 2 Feb 2009
Posts: 3
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02-19-2009 19:30
I recently became a land and home owner in SL. One thing I've noticed is someone has made a landmark in my home due to my forgetting and leaving the door unlocked.
Is there a way to invalidate their landmark so they can no TP back to my place or is it just something I now have to put up with?
Thanks in advance.
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Oryx Tempel
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02-19-2009 19:52
If you know the name of the avatar, you can Ban them from your land in About Land. If you don't want to do that, you can always IM the person, asking them not to return. If they ignore you, you can do a few things: 1) Blow it off; it's not like he/she can actually steal anything or mess up your stuff. Be sure to turn off Object Create (that's also in About Land) so the person can't clog up your area with their stuff. 2) Get one of those security bots. It's a small object that kicks people off (you know, "You have 6 seconds to leave this parcel"  but lots of people actively hate those things. 3) If the person continues to harass you, you could always AR him/her; this won't get you very far, as you'll be advised to ban the avatar from your parcel as recommended above.  Hope that helps.
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Ralektra Breda
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02-19-2009 19:55
If it is someone you don't really want to ban, but you don't want tping directly into your house, go outside to the furthest corner from your door and set your parcel landing point there. When they tp in, they will land there, and not inside.
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Cooter Kalinakov
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Join date: 2 Feb 2009
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02-19-2009 19:55
Thanks for the reply. I've gone ahead and done the first and second thing you've said.
Can anyone answer, the option of teleport location on the access tab, does that re-route people when they tp to your location via a landmark or just for new travelers?
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Ivanova Shostakovich
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Join date: 1 Oct 2007
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02-19-2009 19:55
As the parcel owner you can also override a LM and set the tp point, can't you?
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Cooter Kalinakov
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Join date: 2 Feb 2009
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02-19-2009 19:56
Looks like Ralektra Breda was reponding as I was. I think that's a good option for me. Thanks!
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Damien1 Thorne
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02-19-2009 20:03
From: Cooter Kalinakov I recently became a land and home owner in SL. One thing I've noticed is someone has made a landmark in my home due to my forgetting and leaving the door unlocked.
FYI, locking the door wouldn't have any effect on your problem. If someone wants to get into the house it is really simple even with the locked door.
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DancesWithRobots Soyer
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02-19-2009 20:14
One of the teleport routing options is "Blocked." What that will do, is keep EVERYONE (including yourself.) from being able to tp to the land.
Access lists and security orbs are other options.
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Weston Graves
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02-19-2009 20:39
Out of curiosity, how do you know they've made a landmark in your home? Is it visible somehow, like an option to "show landmarks" on one of the debug menus? Or are they just rezzing things in the house? I've got my land set to return items after 30 mintus and everyone is welcome - everywhere on it, so I wouldn't need to know if anyone made a landmark. Just curious.
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Alvaro Zapatero
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02-19-2009 20:42
Set the land to Damage Enabled... and blast 'em.
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Clarissa Lowell
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Join date: 10 Apr 2006
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02-19-2009 22:37
I'm assuming it's because they have seen the av rez into the home itself...as opposed to clicking on a sitball and getting in that way? Rezzing often in the same exact spot inside the house would suggest a LM had been made. In "About land" can you disable the thing that says "  anyone can) create landmark here"?
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Katheryne Helendale
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02-19-2009 23:01
From: Cooter Kalinakov Can anyone answer, the option of teleport location on the access tab, does that re-route people when they tp to your location via a landmark or just for new travelers? It will re-route everyone. Me, personally, if someone had made a landmark to the inside of my house and that person kept popping in uninvited, I would have cut a small hole in my ceiling, and placed an orbit pad at the landing spot. That'd learn 'em! 
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AfroduckFromPC Brim
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02-20-2009 02:58
Personally I would put a hollow box around their landmark point and script it so it begins screaming when they rez.
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Argent Stonecutter
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02-20-2009 03:21
Banning them would be best, if you can't just negotiate with them to quit the hell popping in. But a couple more amusing alternatives: Exchange a 16m square parcel with someone on the opposite side of the sim, join the two parcels (parcels don't have to be a single contiguous chunk, two squares on opposite sides of the sim can be the same parcel), and set the joined parcel's landing point to the center of the little square. If you know the person's identity, you can put a script like this in a prim: default { state_entry() { llSensorRepeat("", "", AGENT, 10, PI, 5); } sensor() { if(llDetectedName(0) == "Bad Guy"  llTeleportAgentHome(llDetectedKey(0)); } } Then whenever they appear on your property (within 30 meters) they will immediately (well, within 5 seconds) teleport home just as if you had killed them.
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Conifer Dada
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02-20-2009 04:18
I live in a flat above the Egotherapy Centre. There is a notice at the bottom of the stairs saying 'private' but someone has scrawled 'not so' above it. So people sometimes wander up the stairs and strut around my flat! What gets me is that they just march round my flat while I'm standing there, but usually they don't say anything.
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HoneyBear Lilliehook
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02-20-2009 06:12
From: Conifer Dada I live in a flat above the Egotherapy Centre. There is a notice at the bottom of the stairs saying 'private' but someone has scrawled 'not so' above it. So people sometimes wander up the stairs and strut around my flat! What gets me is that they just march round my flat while I'm standing there, but usually they don't say anything. Isn't that the weirdest? They walk into your home and don't even talk to you....it's like you don't even exist! I get it a lot, if I forget to set my security orb. I find myself adding more people to it lately (friends) so that I don't have to keep turning it off when they come over, because I forget to turn it back on!
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Ceera Murakami
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02-20-2009 06:33
Intrusion into my home by unthinking or even malicious individuals was one of the biggest reasons why I now live on an off-the-map private island. The only people who can get to my home at all are the handful who are in my land group, plus the sim owner and their estate managers (and Lindens who override access permissions), and the only others who can even see into my parcel are those in 4 other small household's land groups.
While it is inconvenient to have to add a guest to my land group in order to have them over for a visit, it sure beats finding a complete stranger at the foot of my bed at an intimate moment, staring or even brazenly asking if they can join in!
Note that banning someone by name only prevents them from entering your parcel to 768 Meters above the terrain. If you have a skybox higher than that, a ban won't keep them out. Only a security orb can do that, at higher altitudes.
When you set a teleport routing point, it affects all attempts to teleport to locations on that parcel, via landmarks or via map teleport methods, except for the actual land owner. If the land is set to or deeded to a group, it appears to retain the previous individual land owner as the only person with unrestricted TP access, rather than allowing TP access for anyone in the group.
There are several innocent ways someone might end up rezzing inside your home.
* It may have been their home's location before, and they still have their "Home" point set there.
* They may have a landmark to that location for something that used to be there, such as friend's former home or a business that used to be there.
* If your parcel is at the exact center of the sim, (128, 128, xxx), all attempts to TP to the sim where someone just opened the map and entered the sim name will default to a lovation on the ground at 128,128. Unless routed elsewhere, as noted above, by parcel TP routing. Buybf a parcel at the exact center of a sim is not wise, for a home.
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Lindal Kidd
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02-20-2009 07:51
Argent, you confirm my opinion that scripters are Evil and Malicious Wizards.
Brilliant.
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Treasure Ballinger
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02-20-2009 08:08
From: Conifer Dada I live in a flat above the Egotherapy Centre. There is a notice at the bottom of the stairs saying 'private' but someone has scrawled 'not so' above it. So people sometimes wander up the stairs and strut around my flat! What gets me is that they just march round my flat while I'm standing there, but usually they don't say anything. OMG that would horrify me. I mean I KNOW it's SL, and they can't really do anything to me, and all of the logic, but hey! *I* am paying for that place, excuse me? Ugh. One of my land parcels, my house has a jacuzzi on the roof. I know people are using it when I'm not there, the water is different. I check all of my land every day to make sure no one has left anything. My mainland parcel on Whitesun, yesterday I returned something that was 30 prims that I couldn't even see when clicking 'show object'. I am curious, although you said they don't say anything, do you ask them why they are in your place? For me that happens with noobs who seem to walk right up and 'try' my door. They don't yet know the trick of how to get inside. So they stand there bashing away over and over while the house says "THIS DOOR IS LOCKED". lol. I can be standing there looking at them, and ask them why are you trying to get into my house? They usually answer oh, I didn't know it was private. lol. Once I met a guy coming out of my house. I had been advertising the new art gallery on my sim and he thought my house was the gallery. Guess the sign on the real art gallery that said 'ART GALLERY' wasn't enough of a clue which building it was.
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Argent Stonecutter
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02-20-2009 08:10
There's nothing malicious about playing head games with someone who's deliberately being a twerp. From: Me Banning them would be best, if you can't just negotiate with them to quit the hell popping in.
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Argent Stonecutter
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02-20-2009 08:14
From: Treasure Ballinger One of my land parcels, my house has a jacuzzi on the roof. I know people are using it when I'm not there, the water is different. I used to think that was happening with a tub of mine, back when I had a house, but it turned out that a few dozen meters away someone else had the same product, and it was using llShout(FIXED_CHANNEL, command)* to communicate between the solid and phantom parts of the tub. I wrote a set of replacement scripts and the problem went away. * Or code to that effect, the script wasn't readable, but the behavior was consistent.
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Dakota Tebaldi
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02-20-2009 08:15
From: AfroduckFromPC Brim Personally I would put a hollow box around their landmark point and script it so it begins screaming when they rez. But what if they just turn off sound?
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Dakota Tebaldi
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02-20-2009 08:20
From: Treasure Ballinger OMG that would horrify me. I mean I KNOW it's SL, and they can't really do anything to me, and all of the logic, but hey! *I* am paying for that place, excuse me? Ugh. One of my land parcels, my house has a jacuzzi on the roof. I know people are using it when I'm not there, the water is different. I check all of my land every day to make sure no one has left anything. My mainland parcel on Whitesun, yesterday I returned something that was 30 prims that I couldn't even see when clicking 'show object'. I had a swing hammock on my balcony that, every once in a while, would be moving when I logged in (you could click it to make it swing, and then click it again to make it stop, and I always left it not-swinging). It made me wonder who was clicking my stuff when I wasn't around. So I made a script and put it in the swing, which told me when I logged on the names of whomever had clicked on the swing while I was offline. It was always a random noob, so I never did anything; but if you've got a repeat offender, since you now have their name you can do things like ask them to stop, or ban them if they do not.
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Paola Delpaso
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Join date: 13 Jan 2007
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02-20-2009 08:28
I don't mind visitors on my parcel at all. Actually I even installed an outdoor fireplace to make visitors comfortable. If I need privacy in my skybox, I use a security device. But as the skybox is pretty high up, I don't get any stray visitors there, anyway. Sometimes bots land on my parcel, because it touches (128, 12  . Well, I damage-enabled the land and, when I'm in the mood for it, I am using the hapless zombies for target practice  Then I'm relaxed and peaceful again. 
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AfroduckFromPC Brim
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02-21-2009 00:50
From: Dakota Tebaldi But what if they just turn off sound? The point is for them to get a hint that they shouldn't be there. Mistakes or someone who doesn't want a conflict will move on or ask me wtf is going on and how to stop it. If someone gets all mad about it well that's just fine and lulzy. If they intentionally persist and mute the object/turn off sound then it simply means I get to be more creative because they know perfectly well what they're doing.
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