Users getting other Users IP adresses
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mark Stantz
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Join date: 20 Feb 2006
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11-26-2008 04:09
hi all i have a good freind that is being stalked in SL and she thinks that this stalker can tell what her IP adress is with them both only in SL . i am pretty sure this cant be done but i would like to be able to tell my freind it cant for sure for her peace of mind, so can this be done in anyway at all if you dont have any contact outside of SL ? can scripted huds do this or maybe external addon programs or modified viewers ?
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Marine Kelley
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Join date: 19 Nov 2006
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11-26-2008 04:21
Scripted HUDs no Addin programs yes of course Modified viewers yes Media connecting to a private, hacked video server, yes
But most likely, he's just bluffing.
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florenze Kerensky
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11-26-2008 04:25
check out this thread /327/2e/291678/1.html
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mark Stantz
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11-26-2008 04:30
ahh okay thank you very much for the replies i though SL was more secure than this, obviously i was wrong 
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Dana Hickman
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Join date: 10 Oct 2006
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11-26-2008 04:46
It IS possible to get the IP address from whatever media servers are being used on a particular parcel/sim IF he has access to them, and your friend plays the media stream while on the parcel. Both music and video streams are a direct connection from the residents computer to whatever web server is named in the about land dialog as the host for that type of media. Her IP would show as connected in the server logs.
FYI - An IP address is almost totally useless for tracking purposes, especially in SL where the LL servers mask her IP and act as a proxy between residents. If she is truly being stalked/harrassed then have her file an abuse report ASAP. Then have her check for scripted items she may be wearing that he might have been able to edit or he gave to her. THAT WOULD let someone follow her around SL. Might also check for scripted follower spies, or stationary spies that might be rezzed nearby. The way to lose a follower is to TP twice as quick as you can, preferrably to an isolated island, or logoff and login to a different region.
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Kasuga Hax
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Join date: 6 Aug 2007
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11-26-2008 05:41
Whoo people who claim to have your IP. So.....they might even have your IP adress. relax! Your IP can be related to the region you live in. And which provider you have. That's all, and all that is pretty much a public domain. Everybody's WAN IP is technically visible. If they want to have your adress, they need to hack the provider you have, and relate your IP to your account, which holds your billing and delivery adress. So the really smart hacker might get your adress. This is why guns exist 
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Porky Gorky
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Join date: 25 May 2004
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11-26-2008 05:53
I could easily get your IP address if i was so inclined but there is not allot I could do with it other than determine the general area where you live. Not like the good old days on IRC where you could capture someones IP and then nuke them off of the server if they annoyed you.
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Kasuga Hax
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11-26-2008 05:58
furthermore, ofcourse you can file a complaint at LL.
But Linden Labs is not really responsible for people blackmailing you using your private data. This is a federal crime, and simply file such complaints at your local police office, with the SL username of the one doing this, and the logs to proof it.
LL will be contacted by the police, and they will have to deliver the personal data of this user.
Get things serious and you will visit your blackmailer in court, watch him/her cry. Then laugh last as you should.
Been there done that, offending someone online is just as much as a crime as offline. I'm glad this law exists.
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Marianne McCann
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Join date: 23 Feb 2006
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11-26-2008 06:49
From: Kasuga Hax Your IP can be related to the region you live in. And which provider you have. That's all, and all that is pretty much a public domain. Everybody's WAN IP is technically visible. Oh no! People will know I live in a large suburb of a major metropolitan city!
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Raudf Fox
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11-26-2008 07:01
Huh, my IP is a LAAARRRGE and very rural area, including two smallish towns. Good luck getting more specific.
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4318723350112047 String
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11-26-2008 07:10
From: Kasuga Hax Whoo people who claim to have your IP. So.....they might even have your IP adress. relax!
Your IP can be related to the region you live in. And which provider you have. That's all, and all that is pretty much a public domain. Everybody's WAN IP is technically visible.
but if in RL you're a 1000 ft monster with purple hair and people find your region through your IP address then you're screwed. Like how hard would it be to spot a 1000ft monster?. trust nobody!
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Kasuga Hax
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11-26-2008 07:17
From: 4318723350112047 String but if in RL you're a 1000 ft monster with purple hair and people find your region through your IP address then you're screwed. Like how hard would it be to spot a 1000ft monster?.
trust nobody! I don't trust you. Because you haven't said anything useful here yet. Besides, If I was Godzilla, I wouldn't be afraid to be known or seen. I will kill everybody, MOHAHAHAHA
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4318723350112047 String
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11-26-2008 07:19
From: Kasuga Hax I don't trust you. Because you haven't said anything useful here yet.
Besides, If I was Godzilla, I wouldn't be afraid to be known or seen. I will kill everybody, MOHAHAHAHA but your stalker might be King Kong.
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Raudf Fox
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11-26-2008 07:21
From: 4318723350112047 String but your stalker might be King Kong. Yes, but that would make the stalker rather obvious, wouldn't it?
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4318723350112047 String
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11-26-2008 07:25
From: Raudf Fox Yes, but that would make the stalker rather obvious, wouldn't it? that doesn't mean he wouldn't bite your head off.
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Lindal Kidd
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11-26-2008 07:25
From: 4318723350112047 String but your stalker might be King Kong. Stop monkeying around with the thread.
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4318723350112047 String
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11-26-2008 07:27
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Marianne McCann
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11-26-2008 07:31
From: 4318723350112047 String but if in RL you're a 1000 ft monster with purple hair and people find your region through your IP address then you're screwed. Like how hard would it be to spot a 1000ft monster?. On the internet, nobody knows yer a 1000 ft monster with purple hair. From: someone trust nobody! Keep yer lazer handy!
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4318723350112047 String
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11-26-2008 07:32
From: Marianne McCann On the internet, nobody knows yer a 1000 ft monster with purple hair.
! have you tried being a 1000ft monster and typing on a little keyboard? it's just sooo obvious!
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Kasuga Hax
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11-26-2008 07:36
I'm good at stalking, especially stalking the stalker. I perform East Russian methods to do that. They aren't pretty, neither are stalkers.
To be back on topic, Trolls and people with a SL only, like "String" is, annoy me the most, and enjoy terrorizing communities.
Don't be afraid to show your IP. It's useless to stalk with.
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Reality is an illusion, caused due to lack of alcohol.
Als een rommelig bureau een rommelige geest betekent, wat betekent dan een leeg bureau?
De kwaliteitsverbeteringsinitiatieven.
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Morwen Bunin
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11-26-2008 07:49
From: Marianne McCann Oh no! People will know I live in a large suburb of a major metropolitan city! My IP number will lead you to my ISP who is located in Amsterdam... while I live on the other side of the country on the country side... Oh noes... people may think I am a city girl.... 
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Gabby Handrick
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11-26-2008 08:08
From: mark Stantz ahh okay thank you very much for the replies i though SL was more secure than this, obviously i was wrong  Audio and Video streams in sl are not passed through LL's servers, if they were it would create even more network issues than already exist. If you play an audio or video stream in sl then the person owning the server they are playing from will have logs indicating what ip addresses connected to their streams, the same thing happens if you use programs like iTunes or Winamp to play streaming media. If you don't want your ip address obtained for some reason you have the option within sl to disable audio and video streaming. It's the same with HTML content so for instance, if you loaded the html in a web profile that would log your ip address as well, which again is no different than what happens if you use Internet Explorer or Safari to browse web pages. This possibility is the reason profile web pages do not load automatically by default. Declaring that this somehow makes SL insecure is just not correct in my opinion, if it were you would have to say the same for every web browser or program capable of playing streaming audio or video as well. Do you believe that people who own the servers that provide content should not have the ability to log the ip addresses of people that connect to them?
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4318723350112047 String
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11-26-2008 08:08
From: Kasuga Hax I'm good at stalking, especially stalking the stalker. I perform East Russian methods to do that. They aren't pretty, neither are stalkers.
To be back on topic, Trolls and people with a SL only, like "String" is, annoy me the most, and enjoy terrorizing communities. . I have placed a bomb three threads down. You have just 30 seconds to locate it...
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Desmond Shang
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11-26-2008 08:15
From: Kasuga Hax I'm good at stalking, especially stalking the stalker. I perform East Russian methods to do that. They aren't pretty, neither are stalkers. To be back on topic, Trolls and people with a SL only, like "String" is, annoy me the most, and enjoy terrorizing communities. Don't be afraid to show your IP. It's useless to stalk with. Bottom line, nothing can beat social engineering. It's all too easy to make an alt, befriend the target, get gobs of info or whatever. But at the end of the day, it's a colossal waste of time. Sort of like arguing with a crazy person. You 'win' but so what? In the end, they won more than you did. They got all sorts of personal attention (negative though it may be), your time, your attention, and felt important! Better to just ignore and keep moving forward. This may sound really boring to those with an itch to scratch, but the true 'win' is eject/ban/mute. The less minutes of your life spent dealing with stupidity is the true victory. If there were any #1 secret to success I'd share - first or second life - it's this. Don't waste time fighting idiots. Just choose your best options and act on them. Pretty soon the idiots will be a small dot in your rear view mirror as you are on to bigger and better things.
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Pserendipity Daniels
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11-26-2008 08:19
From: Desmond Shang The less minutes of your life spent dealing with stupidity is the true victory. If there were any #1 secret to success I'd share - first or second life - it's this. Don't waste time fighting idiots. Just choose your best options and act on them. Pretty soon the idiots will be a small dot in your rear view mirror as you are on to bigger and better things. That's why I don't vote or have anything at all to do with politicians . . . Pep (. . . of any persuasion)
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