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Trouble with neighbour

Mecha Innis
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Join date: 28 Nov 2006
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08-27-2009 07:08
A player has been using his camera to cross into my house and touch my computer player which I cannot restrict for owner use only and making my life unpleasant in the land I own beside him. I was there before him. He does this constantly. I have confronted him and he has denied it. I know it is him because it only happens when he is there. When he is not in the sim it doesn't happen. I have tested this several days. I have reported him to Linden Lab but have no real proof.

I have contacted the vendor for the computer to see whether the script can be modified for owner use only but this might not be possible.

Anyone has any advice?
Rhonda Huntress
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08-27-2009 07:16
Res a box and stretch it to cover the player. Set the textures to "*default transparent" - you can find it in your library. There you go, cover the player with a prim that does nothing.

If you need to get to the player, press Ctrl+Alt+T to highlight transparent objects and then lift the cover up and away. Hit Ctrl+Alt+T to turn off the highlights when done.

If you really want to be paranoid, you can add a script to the cover that will IM you the name of the person that touches it.

[ETA]

Here is a quick script to use.

default{
touch_start(integer total_number) {
llOwnerSay(0, "Touched by "+llDetectedName(0);
}
}

It will tell you the name of whoever touches it.
Abigail Merlin
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08-27-2009 07:17
From: Mecha Innis
Anyone has any advice?

For starters it is a good idea to remove his name from your post, many people have gotten in trouble for that.
Otherwise putting an semi transparent cube over the computer will stop him from playing with it. if you have a bit of scripting knowlidge you can collect proof that it is that person with it too.
Kidd Krasner
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08-27-2009 07:26
It's easy to design a script so that only the owner can operate an object. If the vendor can't do that, find another vendor who can.
Mecha Innis
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Join date: 28 Nov 2006
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08-27-2009 07:45
Thanks for the advice.

So just find a box in my inventory library and set the texture to transparent and place the script in the contents section of edit of the box, and I will still be able to see the player. Do I understand this correctly?.

Could you recommend someone who could create an owner only script for the player? However, the player is "no modify," so I think only the creator could change the script.
Treasure Ballinger
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Join date: 31 Dec 2007
Posts: 2,745
08-27-2009 07:50
From: Mecha Innis
Thanks for the advice.

Where can I get such a box? I don't know who to build or script.

Could you recommend someone who could create an owner only script for the player? However, the player is "no modify" so only the creator can change the script.


Nobody is going to try to change or modify the player itself. When the transparant 'box' is set over the player, THAT is what can be scripted to see who touches it. Because whoever is touching your player, won't be able to see that there's now a transparant box sitting over it, and they will still try to access it; and boom, they are busted, when the newly scripted box captures the information on who they are, plus, they won't be able to reach your player, as they'll have no perms to move the box out of the way. I hope you find someone 'scripty' to do this for you.
Lizz Silverstar
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08-27-2009 08:07
If you have not found anyone to create you a little scripted box by this evening just contact me inworld. I will be happy to make you one. I get on around 5pm SL time.
I am at work right now or I would do it now.

Lizzy
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08-27-2009 08:09
From: Treasure Ballinger
Nobody is going to try to change or modify the player itself. When the transparant 'box' is set over the player, THAT is what can be scripted to see who touches it. Because whoever is touching your player, won't be able to see that there's now a transparant box sitting over it, and they will still try to access it;



Unless the neighbor reads this thread of course.

You can still try to AR them for harassment and see if anything is done. Let the ones in a position to judge the merit of the anecdotal 'proof' - do so. Let them judge. Nothing stops you from trying to give it a report.

Join Script Collectors. It is a free group and there are some kind souls in there who will know how to legally help you try and foil the poacher.

Also can you simply take the item up when you log out each time? Nothing there, nothing to mess with.

PS this thread makes me wish for a JIRA about parcel enabling others to cam or not to cam, there.
Rhonda Huntress
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08-27-2009 08:12
Hmmm,
Ivory Tower of Prims (I think is the name) is the perfect place to learn the basics of building. But I can walk you through this easy.

- When you are home, click the button on the bottom of the screen that says "Build."
- Click somewhere on the ground. A simple plywood box will apear. This is the default prim and the first step in any building.
- The build window should have popped up and the box you just made will be highlighted. Go to the second tab from the left on that window. Make sure the radio button on the top left is on Position.
- On the box, there are 3 intersecting arrows with lines running out for the X, Y and Z directions. Click and hold on the arrow ends to move the box around. Put the box over the player.
- To resize the box. Hold down the Shift key. You will notice the arrows go away and the box is surounded with little colored boxes. If you click and drag these, it will resize the box. The white ones on the corners will scale the whole thing up and down. The colored ones in the middle of each side will move just that side. Resize the plywood box to just cover the player.
- Now, go to the "Texture" tab. On the radio button at the upper left, hit "Select Textures".
- There will be a square showing what the texture looks like (plywood) and a square with the color applied with that texture (solid white). Click on the left square to get to the texture picker.
- In the popup windo, you will see your inventory filtered to just show textures you can use. There is a text bar at the tiop you can search with, much like your inventory window. Type in "transparent" to narrow the list. The scroll down if you have to in order to get to default transparent. Click that texture in the list. Then click "submit" (apply? OK? I am not sure right off the top of my head). to close the window and apply the texture to all the selected sides.
- By default, all the sides are selected except the bottom. I really do not know why. If you want, you could leave it like this, but if you want the bottom to be transparent too, you will need to go back to position on the radio button, lift the cover up so you can see the bottom, click "select texture" and then touch the bottom of the cube. Then do as above to set the texture to transparent. Afterwards, go back to position again and move the cover into place.
- Scripting. Go to the Contents tab.
- Click the button that say "new script." Wait a few seconds (like 10) after you see the script show up to let the asset servers catch up.
- Double click the new script to open up the script editor.
- Click and drag to highlight all of the text you see there. Then delete it. (Hit Delete on your keyboard)
- Either copy and past the code I posted earlier or just type it in there.
- Hit Save onthe bottom right. It will compile and save the code.
- Close the script edit window.
- Close the prim edit window.

That's it. Your done. You are now a content creator :)
Eli Schlegal
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08-27-2009 08:22
I'm confused... What is a "computer player"?
Rhonda Huntress
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08-27-2009 08:35
Depending on how mean you want to get, we could have the script tp them home, sit target to below the world and the unseat them, orbit, constant slow asscension, play a strange animation or maybe a zombie attack (would be funny but a pain to script from scratch).
Argent Stonecutter
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08-27-2009 08:36
If the object he is touching is modifiable, you can put another script in it to also detect the touch event and log or warn the person.
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Sling Trebuchet
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08-27-2009 08:40
Get it to shout "The perv, ............, has cammed into a private space and messed with other peoples' stuff!!!"

Or

Have it say to the toucher "I can see you camming in at me. Welcome to my AR report."
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Argent Stonecutter
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08-27-2009 08:50
If you want to be able to create a private place where people can't cam in on your stuff, please vote for http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-205
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Felony Fabre
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08-27-2009 09:15
Are you sure he is actually touching the player? Is it possible that one of his objects is using the same 'private' chat channel that your player is using? In short, many scripted objects allow their users to 'communicate' with them via selected chat channels. For instance, if he types '/51 radio next station,' and your player also uses channel 51, there might be an issue if he is shouting the command. The more technical of our forum residents might be able to pipe in here, since I might be completely wrong in my assessment. I don't know - I'm just considering other possibilities ... :)
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Lizz Silverstar
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08-27-2009 09:21
From: Felony Fabre
Are you sure he is actually touching the player? Is it possible that one of his objects is using the same 'private' chat channel that your player is using? In short, many scripted objects allow their users to 'communicate' with them via selected chat channels. For instance, if he types '/51 radio next station,' and your player also uses channel 51, there might be an issue if he is shouting the command. The more technical of our forum residents might be able to pipe in here, since I might be completely wrong in my assessment. I don't know - I'm just considering other possibilities ... :)


This could also be the problem. Most experianced scripters will use a random negitive channel for commuication, but this device may not be doing that. Or it may be using a random channel and the neighbor has an item that happens to be on the same random channel. (very unlikely though odds in the the billions to one.)

The invisible scripted box will help figure out what is happening.

Lizzy
Mecha Innis
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08-27-2009 09:39
A computer player is a radio, tv and video player combined in an object that looks like a computer monitor with keyboard.

I know the object is being touched because a few days earlier someone also took over control of my slide projector which also cannot be restricted to owner use and I had to take it. Just before that happened, someone was also causing my safe to open and close. They are all activated by touching.
Scylla Rhiadra
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08-27-2009 10:21
From: Mecha Innis
A computer player is a radio, tv and video player combined in an object that looks like a computer monitor with keyboard.

I know the object is being touched because a few days earlier someone also took over control of my slide projector which also cannot be restricted to owner use and I had to take it. Just before that happened, someone was also causing my safe to open and close. They are all activated by touching.
Have you considered the possibility that you have a poltergeist?

:D
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08-27-2009 10:36
From: Mecha Innis
someone was also causing my safe to open and close.

I'd get a refund on that then!

When is a safe not a safe, when its a jar!
Innula Zenovka
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08-27-2009 10:46
Here's a basic script to put in your scripted box:
CODE

key owner;

default{

state_entry(){
owner = llGetOwner();
llSetAlpha(0.0,ALL_SIDES); // make me invisible
}

touch_start(integer num){
key toucher = llDetectedKey(0);
if (toucher !=owner){
llInstantMessage(toucher, "Hands off. I've informed my owner you've tried to interfere with me, and you'd better have a good explanation if you don't want to be AR'd. Have a nice day");
llInstantMessage(owner, llDetectedName(0)+" has just tried to touch me");
}
}

}
Mecha Innis
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08-27-2009 12:56
Thanks. I'll let you know how it works.
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08-27-2009 14:42
From: Dekka Raymaker
I'd get a refund on that then!

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Mecha Innis
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08-27-2009 16:29
The script says syntax error when I put it in.
Kidd Krasner
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08-27-2009 16:42
From: Mecha Innis
A computer player is a radio, tv and video player combined in an object that looks like a computer monitor with keyboard.

I know the object is being touched because a few days earlier someone also took over control of my slide projector which also cannot be restricted to owner use and I had to take it. Just before that happened, someone was also causing my safe to open and close. They are all activated by touching.

It's been ages I've needed to look at those, so I can't advise on where to get better ones. But I'm quite sure you can find some that will be owner-only. They may cost more, but you get what you pay for.

Is the safe just decorative? Or really supposed to be used for storing things?
Kidd Krasner
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08-27-2009 16:43
From: Mecha Innis
The script says syntax error when I put it in.

Make sure you didn't include the '
CODE
' or '
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