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Phil Deakins

Prim Savers = low prims

Join date: 17 Jan 2007

Posts: 9,537

01-23-2009 16:26

From: Linda Brynner

You don't know Phil.
I could be an old granny knitting sweaters, scarfs and socks, at least 90 years old and a women's beard

But serious, that shift copy, that's really true, about the change?
(a simply "yes" or "no Ma'am" would do)

Yes ma'am.

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Linda Brynner

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Join date: 9 Jan 2007

Posts: 187

01-23-2009 16:45

I'm flabbergasted ( in different ways ).

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Osprey Therian

I want capslocklock

Join date: 6 Jul 2004

Posts: 5,049

01-23-2009 17:28

From: Lear Cale

Yes, it seems backwards that the old one is the one you dragged, but that's how SL is, and I wouldn't be surprised to find that it's technically a lot simpler that way.

I've always found it very useful that the original is the one dragged.

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Lear Cale

wordy bugger

Join date: 22 Aug 2007

Posts: 3,569

01-23-2009 19:25

From: Phil Deakins

I always think of the one that is dragged as the new one, and the one that's left in the original spot as the old one. So we both experienced the same - we just think of them the other way round

In cases where it doesn't matter, well, it doesn't matter. But SL does it the other way around.

The "new" one has a new key, and its scripts all get reset. It's the one remaining, not the one dragged.

The SL way is nonintuitive and confusing, but fortunately, it often doesn't matter.

However, if your objects are scripted, or have sit targets that a script won't replace immediately on reset, or particles, and a few other properties I can't remember, then it can matter.

When it matters, I generally shift-drag, then select the new one and move it, then select the old one and control-Z. So, the old one is where it was, and the new one is nearby.

Anyway, what you're saying is that copies now get sales info copied. I'm hoping they copy all the other stuff that used to get lost in the new item.

Good news and thanks for sharing.

LittleMe Jewell

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Join date: 8 Oct 2007

Posts: 11,319

01-23-2009 19:32

From: Phil Deakins

I always think of the one that is dragged as the new one, and the one that's left in the original spot as the old one. So we both experienced the same - we just think of them the other way round

I actually found out very very shortly after I learned that you could copy an item using the shift key. I was on the platform to my house and was making a copy - using shift I dragged the new one downwards and forgot about it for a few minutes as I was also engaged in IMs. Well, it so happens that I was not wearing my group tag and so in 5 minutes the new one was returned to me, which just happened to be the one that I thought was the original and the one I was standing on - crash landing.

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Blot Brickworks

The end of days

Join date: 28 Oct 2006

Posts: 1,076

01-23-2009 20:03

Works for me .many thanks.

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Phil Deakins

Prim Savers = low prims

Join date: 17 Jan 2007

Posts: 9,537

01-24-2009 03:37

From: Lear Cale

The SL way is nonintuitive

You are right about that

From: Lear Cale

I'm hoping they copy all the other stuff that used to get lost in the new item.

I just checked with the sit target property (no script remaining), and the sit target doesn't transfer. My guess is that other prim properties also don't transfer, which is a pity but we're used to it.

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Lear Cale

wordy bugger

Join date: 22 Aug 2007

Posts: 3,569

01-24-2009 07:23

From: LittleMe Jewell

... the new one was returned to me, which just happened to be the one that I thought was the original and the one I was standing on - crash landing.

LOL, just one in a series of crash landing stories.

I found that shift-dragging what I'm standing on can cause me to fall through, sometimes.

Common SL headlines: "Avatar plummets to death!"

Now that we have skyboxes over 1K, we have even more time to enjoy our final moments.

Ghosty Kips

Elora's Llama

Join date: 2 May 2008

Posts: 2,386

01-24-2009 08:02

From: Phil Deakins

When you do a shift-copy of an item that's set for sale, the new copy used to keep the price and everything and the original copy needed them to be typed in again. Now both copies keep the data. I like that.

WHY I'd need two exact copies of the same thing for sale is anyone's guess ... but hey.

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Phil Deakins

Prim Savers = low prims

Join date: 17 Jan 2007

Posts: 9,537

01-24-2009 08:50

From: Ghosty Kips

WHY I'd need two exact copies of the same thing for sale is anyone's guess ... but hey.

It comes in very handy for me when I add one or more texture variations of an existing item. I just copy the item and apply the new texture. For instance, yesterday someone wanted a cuddle sofa like the ones I have but in a different texture. It was done in a couple of minutes. That's when I discovered the change.

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http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/

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Phil Deakins Prim Savers = low prims Join date: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 9,537	01-23-2009 16:26 From: Linda Brynner You don't know Phil. I could be an old granny knitting sweaters, scarfs and socks, at least 90 years old and a women's beard But serious, that shift copy, that's really true, about the change? (a simply "yes" or "no Ma'am" would do) Yes ma'am. _____________________ Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/
Linda Brynner Premium Member Join date: 9 Jan 2007 Posts: 187	01-23-2009 16:45 I'm flabbergasted ( in different ways ). _____________________ Love, Linda Land Store • Freebies • women Fashion http://slurl.com/secondlife/Rundlelawn/14/58/30 http://AboutLand.wordpress.com Beaches Mainland Protected, the best remaining in SL http://slbotblacklist.wordpress.com/ CNN iReports http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-205129
Osprey Therian I want capslocklock Join date: 6 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,049	01-23-2009 17:28 From: Lear Cale Yes, it seems backwards that the old one is the one you dragged, but that's how SL is, and I wouldn't be surprised to find that it's technically a lot simpler that way. I've always found it very useful that the original is the one dragged. _____________________ http:www.atomic-raygun.com Combat Cards in Europa [url=http://slurl.com/secondlife/grignano/118/116/]The Photography Studio in Grignano[/url] Mud! Mud! Glorious mud! Nothing quite like it for cooling the blood. So, follow me, follow, down to the hollow, And there let us wallow in glorious mud. Flanders and Swan
Lear Cale wordy bugger Join date: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 3,569	01-23-2009 19:25 From: Phil Deakins I always think of the one that is dragged as the new one, and the one that's left in the original spot as the old one. So we both experienced the same - we just think of them the other way round In cases where it doesn't matter, well, it doesn't matter. But SL does it the other way around. The "new" one has a new key, and its scripts all get reset. It's the one remaining, not the one dragged. The SL way is nonintuitive and confusing, but fortunately, it often doesn't matter. However, if your objects are scripted, or have sit targets that a script won't replace immediately on reset, or particles, and a few other properties I can't remember, then it can matter. When it matters, I generally shift-drag, then select the new one and move it, then select the old one and control-Z. So, the old one is where it was, and the new one is nearby. Anyway, what you're saying is that copies now get sales info copied. I'm hoping they copy all the other stuff that used to get lost in the new item. Good news and thanks for sharing.
LittleMe Jewell ........... Join date: 8 Oct 2007 Posts: 11,319	01-23-2009 19:32 From: Phil Deakins I always think of the one that is dragged as the new one, and the one that's left in the original spot as the old one. So we both experienced the same - we just think of them the other way round I actually found out very very shortly after I learned that you could copy an item using the shift key. I was on the platform to my house and was making a copy - using shift I dragged the new one downwards and forgot about it for a few minutes as I was also engaged in IMs. Well, it so happens that I was not wearing my group tag and so in 5 minutes the new one was returned to me, which just happened to be the one that I thought was the original and the one I was standing on - crash landing. _____________________ ♥♥♥ -Lil Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it? ~Mark Twain~ Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on. ♥♥♥ Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22 . http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell
Blot Brickworks The end of days Join date: 28 Oct 2006 Posts: 1,076	01-23-2009 20:03 Works for me .many thanks. _____________________ Blots Plot @ THE OLD MERMAID INN http://slurl.com/secondlife/Dunbeath /206/85/26 http://phillplasma.com/2009/05/01/blots-plot-the-old-mermaid-inn/
Phil Deakins Prim Savers = low prims Join date: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 9,537	01-24-2009 03:37 From: Lear Cale The SL way is nonintuitive You are right about that From: Lear Cale I'm hoping they copy all the other stuff that used to get lost in the new item. I just checked with the sit target property (no script remaining), and the sit target doesn't transfer. My guess is that other prim properties also don't transfer, which is a pity but we're used to it. _____________________ Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/
Lear Cale wordy bugger Join date: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 3,569	01-24-2009 07:23 From: LittleMe Jewell ... the new one was returned to me, which just happened to be the one that I thought was the original and the one I was standing on - crash landing. LOL, just one in a series of crash landing stories. I found that shift-dragging what I'm standing on can cause me to fall through, sometimes. Common SL headlines: "Avatar plummets to death!" Now that we have skyboxes over 1K, we have even more time to enjoy our final moments.
Ghosty Kips Elora's Llama Join date: 2 May 2008 Posts: 2,386	01-24-2009 08:02 From: Phil Deakins When you do a shift-copy of an item that's set for sale, the new copy used to keep the price and everything and the original copy needed them to be typed in again. Now both copies keep the data. I like that. WHY I'd need two exact copies of the same thing for sale is anyone's guess ... but hey. _____________________ -- Why aren't you doing something more useful, like playing WoW?
Phil Deakins Prim Savers = low prims Join date: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 9,537	01-24-2009 08:50 From: Ghosty Kips WHY I'd need two exact copies of the same thing for sale is anyone's guess ... but hey. It comes in very handy for me when I add one or more texture variations of an existing item. I just copy the item and apply the new texture. For instance, yesterday someone wanted a cuddle sofa like the ones I have but in a different texture. It was done in a couple of minutes. That's when I discovered the change. _____________________ Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/

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