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Gabriele Graves
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12-02-2008 12:52
From: Kaimi Kyomoon
Thanks Amara! I just ordered a used copy for $.01.
Bag of bones, I thought it sounded familliar, a good read as I recall :)
Brenda Connolly
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12-02-2008 12:53
From: Lexxi Gynoid
I will get new. I am not skilled enough to use second hand if not set up correctly.

How get graphic card not part of computer?

ok, now I really am sounding wobbly.


You can also get Brand New Machines on ebay. I got my Dell Desktop there, brand new, sealed with all warranty cards. It might be worth looking into.
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12-02-2008 12:55
From: Gabriele Graves
That excerpt sounds familliar, I believe I have read that book. I too love Stephen King and The Stand is possibly one of the best books I have ever read. You have to read the full version though because the shortened version is just rubbish imo.
I don't think abridged versions of books are ever a good idea. If it's worth reading it's worth reading the original.
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Amaranthim Talon
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12-02-2008 12:55
I really can't complain- as far as lag it isn't all bad just some places. When it is bad though- omg!
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12-02-2008 12:57
From: Amaranthim Talon
I really can't complain- as far as lag it isn't all bad just some places. When it is bad though- omg!

Sorry :o
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Gabriele Graves
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12-02-2008 12:57
From: Lexxi Gynoid
Do you mean Nvidia with Vista? Because I used Nvidia graphic card for more than a year without much trouble. Granted my laptop melted, but I didn't crash every ten minutes in that year.

Wobbly under confusing computers. Cannot wrap head around this stuff. I do not know what a "seek time" is or means, for example.
Nvidia under Vista is what I was talking about, Nvidia under XP is much better bet generally.

Good thing is you don't have to understand seek time to find it quoted and pick the lowest number there :) It is the time it takes the drive to find where it needs to go on the disk btw when loading a piece of data and it is quoted as an average.
Gabriele Graves
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12-02-2008 12:58
From: Kaimi Kyomoon
I don't think abridged versions of books are ever a good idea. If it's worth reading it's worth reading the original.
I agree 100% :)
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12-02-2008 12:59
From: Gabriele Graves

The hard disk numbers to look for are the seek times (lower the better) and the amount of cache ram they have (8mb, etc...)
Other than that an easy guide is if you are paying more for the same size for the same computer then it is likely to be a faster drive :)

Hope your wobbly time passes soon :)


Regarding the hard disk, the spin speed, such as 5400rpm or 7200rpm is another way to judge. Higher numbers are better.
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Gabriele Graves
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12-02-2008 13:02
From: Love Hastings
Regarding the hard disk, the spin speed, such as 5400rpm or 7200rpm is another way to judge. Higher numbers are better.
Good point though I thought all laptop drives were 5400rpm due to the 2.5inch form factor? Obviously for desktop that is true though.
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12-02-2008 13:11
From: Gabriele Graves
Good point though I thought all laptop drives were 5400rpm due to the 2.5inch form factor? Obviously for desktop that is true though.


They've been getting faster recently. You can indeed buy a 7200rpm laptop drive.
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Gabriele Graves
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12-02-2008 13:13
From: Love Hastings
They've been getting faster recently. You can indeed buy a 7200rpm laptop drive.
Great, then Lexxi, a 7200rpm is definitely what I would be springing for if I could afford it. You would not believe what a difference to SL a faster hard drive can make.
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12-02-2008 13:14
Had wine at lunch today ...all this computerese is very confusing for Maureen.
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12-02-2008 13:18
From: Maureen Boccaccio
Had wine at lunch today ...all this computerese is very confusing for Maureen.


/this user did not have wine with her lunch,, still finds it confusing :o
/goes back to to work, straight and baffled at what I've been reading
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Gabriele Graves
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12-02-2008 13:20
From: Maureen Boccaccio
Had wine at lunch today ...all this computerese is very confusing for Maureen.
*smiles* Sorry Mo, the trouble is that buying a new comp is a nightmare, the only real ways to get what you want and you expect is to either know someone who knows this stuff or take the time to learn it yourself and believe me the latter is not easy. However I have a confession, I really don't like to depend on things that are expensive without understanding enough to make a good choice when buying and I refuse to buy blindly, couple that with not having a resident geek handy for when I needed to buy my equipment I decided to tackle it myself. So far so good :)
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12-02-2008 13:20
From: Elora Lunasea

/goes back to to work, straight and baffled at what I've been reading


'tis indeed no fun. But Lexxi needs halp!
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12-02-2008 13:22
From: Gabriele Graves
Great, then Lexxi, a 7200rpm is definitely what I would be springing for if I could afford it. You would not believe what a difference to SL a faster hard drive can make.

I do not think Dell gives out those numbers, I guess. I do not see that on there.
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12-02-2008 13:24
From: Damien1 Thorne
Sorry :o

/me smiles... we manage though dear- what's flying into a wall or two? hehe :D
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Lexxi Gynoid
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12-02-2008 13:34
From: Brenda Connolly
You can also get Brand New Machines on ebay. I got my Dell Desktop there, brand new, sealed with all warranty cards. It might be worth looking into.

I do not trust getting a computer that way for myself. Though I understand others have luck going that route.
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Yosef Okelly
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12-02-2008 13:37
This is an HP dv5z slightly modified (better CPU, Graphics and memory) from the base. Total cost is $700

Operating system Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium with Service Pack 1 (32-bit) Processor AMD Turion(TM) X2 Dual-Core Mobile Processor RM-70 (2.0GHz)
Display 15.4" diagonal WXGA High-Definition HP BrightView Widescreen Display (1280 x 800)
Memory FREE Upgrade to 4GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm) from 1GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm)!!
Graphics card 256MB ATI Radeon(TM) HD 3450 Graphics
Hard drive 160GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection

yeah ... not fantastic but it should work and be within budget.
Gabriele Graves
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12-02-2008 13:38
From: Lexxi Gynoid
I do not think Dell gives out those numbers, I guess. I do not see that on there.
Hi Lexxi, I am at Dell.com and I have chosen to customize the Vostro 1710 laptop, there seems to be several options available:

1) 160GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive [Included in Price]
2) 250GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive [add $40]
3) 320GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive [add $90]
4) 160GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive with Free Fall Sensor [add $10]
Free Fall Protection: Detects free-fall events and takes action to prevent damage
5) 250GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive with Free Fall Sensor [add $90]
6) Dual Hard Drives, 640G (2x320) 5400RPM SATA HDD [add $435]
7) Dual Hard Drives, 320G (2x 160) 7200RPM HDD [add $85]

If you can afford option 5) then that would be the best option (no need to go dual drive), otherwise next best is option 4).

The link is: http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=bqcw71z&c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04
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12-02-2008 13:45
From: Gabriele Graves

4) 160GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive with Free Fall Sensor [add $10]


Good catch. This option is a no-brainer.
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12-02-2008 13:46
Well, this is a fun new message:

From: someone
[13:45] Asset server didn't respond in a timely fashion. Object returned to sim.


:rolleyes:
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Gabriele Graves
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12-02-2008 13:46
From: Amaranthim Talon
I really can't complain- as far as lag it isn't all bad just some places. When it is bad though- omg!
No in fact though the Intel graphics aren't anywhere near as good as the Nvidia, they are perfectly usable if you turn down the settings. I didn't mean to rubbish your choice Amara I was just wanting to give you an explanation for the reason why your Dell did not go as fast as you expected is all.
Gabriele Graves
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12-02-2008 13:47
From: Ann Launay
Well, this is a fun new message:



:rolleyes:
Lol not new, seen it many times before.
Gabriele Graves
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12-02-2008 13:50
From: Love Hastings
Good catch. This option is a no-brainer.
Thanks :), and I agree it is.

Now back to work for me...:(