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Amaranthim Talon

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04-28-2009 15:31

This was just posted in the Undying Thread:
http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-12962

This is a radically BAD THING - Go read and VOTE on it!!!

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Imnotgoing Sideways

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04-28-2009 15:38

Seconded. I've already seen the bug with my own skins. IT'S NOT A PRETTY PICTURE!!!! (>_<

If you have purchased a no-mod skin. You WILL look like a bloody bozo and won't be able to do anything about it. (>_<

Skin makers: Make sure you have good records. Your content is about to be broken and your customers are gonna be frigg'n mad. (>_<

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Ashe1 Writer

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04-28-2009 15:41

Voted

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04-28-2009 15:43

Done.

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Amaranthim Talon

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04-28-2009 15:43

I need someone on one of the new viewers to look at me and tell me if I am all messed up

- I use a Kirsten one so it won't change what I see but I don't want to look like a clown to other people!

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Papalopulus Kobolowski

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04-28-2009 15:52

great another thing borked...

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Argus Collingwood

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04-28-2009 16:58

Voted! Linden post concerning it:

BigPapi Linden added a comment - 28/Apr/09 04:47 PM
Thanks for the feedback! Like Nyx said, the reason we have public nightly viewer releases and Release Candidates is so that we can be aware of issues that unintentionally end up negatively affecting a lot of residents. This change was made as a result of bug reports in PJIRA regarding inconsistent ordering of texture layers between the lower body, upper body, and face which resulted in broken content. In attempting to fix this broken content it appears we've broken different content (that relied on the previously existing bug). We were in fact trying to fix something that was already broken, not just arbitrarily making layering changes.

We're aware of the issue and are in the process of fixing it. In the meanwhile, thanks again for continuing to use the public nightly and RC viewers and reporting issues you find, so we that can be made aware of them before they make it into an official viewer release. We don't want to break your content, so please continue to report any issues you find in pre-release viewers so we can promptly fix them.

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Rhaorth Antonelli

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04-28-2009 17:02

this is happening on the 1.23 public nightly one

this only happens to those using that version, when they rebake

(see Immy's post further down)

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Morpheus Linden: But then I change avs pretty often too, so often, I look nothing like my avatar.

They are taking away the forums... it could be worse, they could be taking away the forums AND Second Life...

Imnotgoing Sideways

Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=

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04-28-2009 17:34

From: Amaranthim Talon

I need someone on one of the new viewers to look at me and tell me if I am all messed up

- I use a Kirsten one so it won't change what I see but I don't want to look like a clown to other people!

The problem only takes shape during baking. And, since baking is local to your computer; if you don't see it, nobody does. So there's really nothing to be afraid of if your eyebrows look fine on your own screen. (^_^)y

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Malia Writer

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04-28-2009 17:38

Ugh, that looks AWFUL. Hope they fix that one before I have to upgrade, or I will be ditching my human avie for sure.

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Rhaorth Antonelli

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04-28-2009 17:41

From: Imnotgoing Sideways

The problem only takes shape during baking. And, since baking is local to your computer; if you don't see it, nobody does. So there's really nothing to be afraid of if your eyebrows look fine on your own screen. (^_^)y

ohhh that's right to, so it only affects those using the public nightly when the rebake occurs

ahhh I totally spaced on that

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Morpheus Linden: But then I change avs pretty often too, so often, I look nothing like my avatar.

They are taking away the forums... it could be worse, they could be taking away the forums AND Second Life...

Malia Writer

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04-28-2009 17:55

From: Rhaorth Antonelli

ohhh that's right to, so it only affects those using the public nightly when the rebake occurs

OK, I'll bite and ask the stupid question of the day... what is "the public nightly"?

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04-28-2009 18:39

Alpha viewer incorporating things that may eventually make it into an RC.

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Rhaorth Antonelli

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04-28-2009 18:42

From: Malia Writer

OK, I'll bite and ask the stupid question of the day... what is "the public nightly"?

hopefully this link will work

http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Public_Nightly

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Morpheus Linden: But then I change avs pretty often too, so often, I look nothing like my avatar.

They are taking away the forums... it could be worse, they could be taking away the forums AND Second Life...

Keira Wells

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04-28-2009 19:20

I'm rather honestly curious...

It's got a ton of votes, and is assigned to Workingonit, is labeled as a Show Stopper, and is open.

Would more votes help this issue, in any way?

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Nina Stepford

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04-28-2009 19:21

bri might lose her beloved freckle hack!

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Puppet Shepherd

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04-28-2009 19:43

From: Malia Writer

Ugh, that looks AWFUL. Hope they fix that one before I have to upgrade, or I will be ditching my human avie for sure.

May I suggest becoming a dog?

Looks like the master plan for world canine domination is being endorsed and implemented by LL. First, we come for the humans, and make them look like clowns. Next... well, you'll have to wait and see.

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Maya Remblai

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04-29-2009 00:29

Dadgum, and I got upset about them "fixing" the avatar mesh hiding megaprim thing before the 1.23 release with avatar alpha. (I still say it should be simultaneous at worst...)

Voted, even though I'm never human.

sable Valentine

AU United

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04-29-2009 05:24

Vote!!!

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Aeslyn Dae

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04-29-2009 05:31

From: Malia Writer

OK, I'll bite and ask the stupid question of the day... what is "the public nightly"?

I don't know either but it sounds like it ought to be labelled "mature" to me!

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Faith Dancer

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04-29-2009 10:53

Question - I'm not in world at the moment ... BUT ... it would stand to reason that if you put on an the original "Ruth" type skin and worked the slider magic to get rid of the makeup, then put on the no-mod skin - the makeup would be gone ... right?

Sling Trebuchet

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04-29-2009 11:05

I was going to vote - until I saw the Linden comments.

Really strange effects. Photo#4 must have felt particularly WTFed.

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Nina Stepford

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04-29-2009 11:24

no. the makeup would revert to whatever the skinmaker had it set to.

From: Faith Dancer

Question - I'm not in world at the moment ... BUT ... it would stand to reason that if you put on an the original "Ruth" type skin and worked the slider magic to get rid of the makeup, then put on the no-mod skin - the makeup would be gone ... right?

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Faith Dancer

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04-29-2009 13:26

From: Nina Stepford

no. the makeup would revert to whatever the skinmaker had it set to.

Sheista!

Naz Fride

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04-29-2009 13:38

nyx linden added a comment - 29/Apr/09 12:53 PM
As has been said several times here, as well as in the description:
We know of this issue. We are working on it. We will not leave content broken.
This issue had a much larger impact than we ever intended. We would not suddenly break every no-mod skin on purpose. We're working on fixing it and it will be fixed before the final release of 1.23. Closing as fix pending, as we will be releasing a fix. It won't be in RC0, but it will be released soon.

Urgent Jira Needs Attention
Amaranthim Talon Voyager, Seeker, Curious Join date: 14 Nov 2006 Posts: 12,032	04-28-2009 15:31 This was just posted in the Undying Thread: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-12962 This is a radically BAD THING - Go read and VOTE on it!!! _____________________ "Yield to temptation. It may not pass your way again. " Robert A. Heinlein http://talonfaire.blogspot.com/ Visit Talon Faire Main: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Misto%20Presto/216/21/155- Main Store XStreets: http://tinyurl.com/6r7ayn
Imnotgoing Sideways Can't outlaw cute! =^-^= Join date: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 4,694	04-28-2009 15:38 Seconded. I've already seen the bug with my own skins. IT'S NOT A PRETTY PICTURE!!!! (>_< If you have purchased a no-mod skin. You WILL look like a bloody bozo and won't be able to do anything about it. (>_< Skin makers: Make sure you have good records. Your content is about to be broken and your customers are gonna be frigg'n mad. (>_< _____________________ Somewhere in this world; there is someone having some good clean fun doing the one thing you hate the most. (^_^)y http://slurl.com/secondlife/Ferguson/54/237/94
Ashe1 Writer Searching & Seeking Join date: 20 Jul 2007 Posts: 1,138	04-28-2009 15:41 Voted _____________________ Ashe
Ilianexsi Sojourner Chick with Horns Join date: 11 Jul 2004 Posts: 1,707	04-28-2009 15:43 Done. _____________________ Everything's impossible,'till it ain't. --Ben Hawkins, Carnivale Help build a Utopian Playland-- www.doctorsteel.com. Music, robots, fun times!
Amaranthim Talon Voyager, Seeker, Curious Join date: 14 Nov 2006 Posts: 12,032	04-28-2009 15:43 I need someone on one of the new viewers to look at me and tell me if I am all messed up - I use a Kirsten one so it won't change what I see but I don't want to look like a clown to other people! _____________________ "Yield to temptation. It may not pass your way again. " Robert A. Heinlein http://talonfaire.blogspot.com/ Visit Talon Faire Main: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Misto%20Presto/216/21/155- Main Store XStreets: http://tinyurl.com/6r7ayn
Papalopulus Kobolowski working mind Join date: 11 Aug 2006 Posts: 326	04-28-2009 15:52 great another thing borked... _____________________ RAW terrain files - terraform your SIM!! http://www.wishland.info/ PD:the wiki its your friend http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/LSL_Portal
Argus Collingwood Totally Tintable Join date: 5 Dec 2005 Posts: 600	04-28-2009 16:58 Voted! Linden post concerning it: BigPapi Linden added a comment - 28/Apr/09 04:47 PM Thanks for the feedback! Like Nyx said, the reason we have public nightly viewer releases and Release Candidates is so that we can be aware of issues that unintentionally end up negatively affecting a lot of residents. This change was made as a result of bug reports in PJIRA regarding inconsistent ordering of texture layers between the lower body, upper body, and face which resulted in broken content. In attempting to fix this broken content it appears we've broken different content (that relied on the previously existing bug). We were in fact trying to fix something that was already broken, not just arbitrarily making layering changes. We're aware of the issue and are in the process of fixing it. In the meanwhile, thanks again for continuing to use the public nightly and RC viewers and reporting issues you find, so we that can be made aware of them before they make it into an official viewer release. We don't want to break your content, so please continue to report any issues you find in pre-release viewers so we can promptly fix them. _____________________ ~~ Please behave before I have to slap you naked and hide your clothes! ~~ Argus-eyed = carefully observant or attentive; on the lookout for possible danger
Rhaorth Antonelli Registered User Join date: 15 Apr 2006 Posts: 7,425	04-28-2009 17:02 this is happening on the 1.23 public nightly one this only happens to those using that version, when they rebake (see Immy's post further down) _____________________ From: someone Morpheus Linden: But then I change avs pretty often too, so often, I look nothing like my avatar. They are taking away the forums... it could be worse, they could be taking away the forums AND Second Life...
Imnotgoing Sideways Can't outlaw cute! =^-^= Join date: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 4,694	04-28-2009 17:34 From: Amaranthim Talon I need someone on one of the new viewers to look at me and tell me if I am all messed up - I use a Kirsten one so it won't change what I see but I don't want to look like a clown to other people! The problem only takes shape during baking. And, since baking is local to your computer; if you don't see it, nobody does. So there's really nothing to be afraid of if your eyebrows look fine on your own screen. (^_^)y _____________________ Somewhere in this world; there is someone having some good clean fun doing the one thing you hate the most. (^_^)y http://slurl.com/secondlife/Ferguson/54/237/94
Malia Writer Unemployed in paradise Join date: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 2,026	04-28-2009 17:38 Ugh, that looks AWFUL. Hope they fix that one before I have to upgrade, or I will be ditching my human avie for sure. _____________________
Rhaorth Antonelli Registered User Join date: 15 Apr 2006 Posts: 7,425	04-28-2009 17:41 From: Imnotgoing Sideways The problem only takes shape during baking. And, since baking is local to your computer; if you don't see it, nobody does. So there's really nothing to be afraid of if your eyebrows look fine on your own screen. (^_^)y ohhh that's right to, so it only affects those using the public nightly when the rebake occurs ahhh I totally spaced on that _____________________ From: someone Morpheus Linden: But then I change avs pretty often too, so often, I look nothing like my avatar. They are taking away the forums... it could be worse, they could be taking away the forums AND Second Life...
Malia Writer Unemployed in paradise Join date: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 2,026	04-28-2009 17:55 From: Rhaorth Antonelli ohhh that's right to, so it only affects those using the public nightly when the rebake occurs OK, I'll bite and ask the stupid question of the day... what is "the public nightly"? _____________________
Osprey Therian I want capslocklock Join date: 6 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,049	04-28-2009 18:39 Alpha viewer incorporating things that may eventually make it into an RC. _____________________ http:www.atomic-raygun.com Combat Cards in Europa [url=http://slurl.com/secondlife/grignano/118/116/]The Photography Studio in Grignano[/url] Mud! Mud! Glorious mud! Nothing quite like it for cooling the blood. So, follow me, follow, down to the hollow, And there let us wallow in glorious mud. Flanders and Swan
Rhaorth Antonelli Registered User Join date: 15 Apr 2006 Posts: 7,425	04-28-2009 18:42 From: Malia Writer OK, I'll bite and ask the stupid question of the day... what is "the public nightly"? hopefully this link will work http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Public_Nightly _____________________ From: someone Morpheus Linden: But then I change avs pretty often too, so often, I look nothing like my avatar. They are taking away the forums... it could be worse, they could be taking away the forums AND Second Life...
Keira Wells Blender Sculptor Join date: 16 Mar 2008 Posts: 2,371	04-28-2009 19:20 I'm rather honestly curious... It's got a ton of votes, and is assigned to Workingonit, is labeled as a Show Stopper, and is open. Would more votes help this issue, in any way? _____________________ Tutorials for Sculpties using Blender! Http://www.youtube.com/user/BlenderSL
Nina Stepford was lied to by LL Join date: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 3,373	04-28-2009 19:21 bri might lose her beloved freckle hack! _____________________ SLU - ban em then bash em! ~~GREATEST HITS~~ pro-life? gtfo! slu- banning opposing opinions one at a time http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/zomgwtfbbqgtfololcats/15428-disingenuous.html learn to shut up and nod in agreement... or be banned! http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/off-topic/1239-americans-not-stupid.html
Puppet Shepherd New Year, New Tricks Join date: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 725	04-28-2009 19:43 From: Malia Writer Ugh, that looks AWFUL. Hope they fix that one before I have to upgrade, or I will be ditching my human avie for sure. May I suggest becoming a dog? Looks like the master plan for world canine domination is being endorsed and implemented by LL. First, we come for the humans, and make them look like clowns. Next... well, you'll have to wait and see. _____________________ Come see my new 1-prim flowers, only $10 each! Lots of other neat stuff to find @ Puppet Art, http://slurl.com/secondlife/Lilypad/200.092/210.338
Maya Remblai The one with pink hair. Join date: 25 Mar 2006 Posts: 434	04-29-2009 00:29 Dadgum, and I got upset about them "fixing" the avatar mesh hiding megaprim thing before the 1.23 release with avatar alpha. (I still say it should be simultaneous at worst...) Voted, even though I'm never human.
sable Valentine AU United Join date: 30 Apr 2006 Posts: 1,275	04-29-2009 05:24 Vote!!! _____________________
Aeslyn Dae over and out Join date: 12 Jul 2007 Posts: 453	04-29-2009 05:31 From: Malia Writer OK, I'll bite and ask the stupid question of the day... what is "the public nightly"? I don't know either but it sounds like it ought to be labelled "mature" to me! -- Aes
Faith Dancer Registered User Join date: 29 Oct 2006 Posts: 38	04-29-2009 10:53 Question - I'm not in world at the moment ... BUT ... it would stand to reason that if you put on an the original "Ruth" type skin and worked the slider magic to get rid of the makeup, then put on the no-mod skin - the makeup would be gone ... right?
Sling Trebuchet Deleted User Join date: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,548	04-29-2009 11:05 I was going to vote - until I saw the Linden comments. Really strange effects. Photo#4 must have felt particularly WTFed. _____________________ Maggie: We give our residents a lot of tools, to build, create, and manage their lands and objects. That flexibility also requires people to exercise judgment about when things should be used. http://www.ace-exchange.com/home/story/BDVR/589
Nina Stepford was lied to by LL Join date: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 3,373	04-29-2009 11:24 no. the makeup would revert to whatever the skinmaker had it set to. From: Faith Dancer Question - I'm not in world at the moment ... BUT ... it would stand to reason that if you put on an the original "Ruth" type skin and worked the slider magic to get rid of the makeup, then put on the no-mod skin - the makeup would be gone ... right? _____________________ SLU - ban em then bash em! ~~GREATEST HITS~~ pro-life? gtfo! slu- banning opposing opinions one at a time http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/zomgwtfbbqgtfololcats/15428-disingenuous.html learn to shut up and nod in agreement... or be banned! http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/off-topic/1239-americans-not-stupid.html
Faith Dancer Registered User Join date: 29 Oct 2006 Posts: 38	04-29-2009 13:26 From: Nina Stepford no. the makeup would revert to whatever the skinmaker had it set to. Sheista!
Naz Fride 21st Century Faux Join date: 8 May 2007 Posts: 341	04-29-2009 13:38 nyx linden added a comment - 29/Apr/09 12:53 PM As has been said several times here, as well as in the description: We know of this issue. We are working on it. We will not leave content broken. This issue had a much larger impact than we ever intended. We would not suddenly break every no-mod skin on purpose. We're working on fixing it and it will be fixed before the final release of 1.23. Closing as fix pending, as we will be releasing a fix. It won't be in RC0, but it will be released soon.

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