Limit on Alts?

Hi there, I just tried to create an alt and was refused due to "Linden Lab reserves the right to limit the number of Second Life accounts an individual may have" That's fair enough but this would only be my second alt and yet I've read on here about people have more than that. Is this new or am I being penalised for being honest in my registration details?

Thanks for any help you guys can give.

That's new--well, sort of. They used to limit the number of Alts you could have on a credit card (I think it was six), but that went away with required CC verification. Sounds like it's back, possibly as part of the required email verification thingy now. (And it would help explain the sudden decline in signups we've seen.) Interesting.

Kam

It might depend on how old your account is. I see you joined the forum here with your first post this month, if that's indicative of your SL birthdate then I think you're in the zone of too new to be allowed many alts.

Or the signup website could be burping badly, that also happens, and the error you get isn't always relevant to the underlying fault.

As a coincidence this happened to me too today. While this would be my first (!) alt. Age and CC confirmation can't have much to do with it. I've been in SL since early last November, verified payment information on sign-up, and as of a few weeks ago I am a premium member, I own land with my business on it. You might think I'd have enough credentials by now to be permitted one alt...

I could really use an alt to test my products, to make sure the permissions are set right etc.

I posted on the same issue yesterday. I had read the FAQ and was totally confused about being blocked on creating an alt. My payment details are verified and I was straight up about what I was doing.

From my posting (and I have to point out that I have not tested this yet) one resident suggested it was using the same email address that caused this to happen.

maybe they are holding off on letting in so many alts because of the major population increase since last summer..i did read somewhere that at times they may have to do something along those lines..it didn't sound like something they would do for good but just at times when they needed to slow down traffic or give premi's priority..
alot of the problems sl has are due to running two accounts letting one camp in a chair with afk scripts while the other runs around..
600,000 to 5million in in population in less than a year thats a pretty good jump..

i have a premi account and my alt uses the same pay info for around 10.00 US.
but i made mine awhile back before we hit all the major issues of the last 5 months..

another thing could be something to do with this update..maybe see what happens after they are done..they may have for some reason stopped alts until we are patched..who knows lol

What is the advantage to creating an alt tied to a main account and paying $9.95/month, as opposed to creating one unrelated and giving it L$ or items from your main?

Can't you can even create a group and give the alt the ability to modfy shared items?

It's $9.95 once, not every month. Or at least it was. There seems to be a fair bit of confusion over whether or not that fee is still active.

I'm guessing its the email address as well. Someone mentioned in a thread a while back that they are doing an email verification with new accounts now, so this would mean you need a new email address with every account created (again, guessing?).

One of the people that were having an issue making an alt want to try it with a new email address and let us know? Would be curious to find out myself.

true it's only a one time fee and some of the places i go you can't get in without it.

my alt can go where ever my main does..some sims won't let you in without payment information used on your profile..some shops won't either..i just figured a one time fee was worth it to have access to everything and everyplace my main does that won't allow freebies

They seem to have dropped the $9.95 USD one-time fee to create an alt. The new process doesn't even ask for payment info if you decline to go Premium. You have to add it on the website later.

I created two alts in the last month, each with unique e-mail addresses. All are tied to my real name and real payment info. They went right through. And I didn't get charged for either one.

So I don't know... It could be there is a cut-off date - that people whose first account was created prior to a certain date can make more alts, and after that date there is a throttle on how long they must wait... No oficial policy statement has been made.

Alts can be given mod rights on your stuff, and can be part of your land group so they can set a home point on your main's land. But they can't directly access your no-transfer inventory. I can, for example, leave a no-copy scripted bed out for my alt to use. But they can't take that bed into their own inventory and set it up elsewhere.

It actually would be nice if you could transfer a no transfer item from alt to alt, but I suspect creators would be upset about this. I know of quite a few peple that have spent lindens on the same item just to have it belong to their alt because of no transfer. Ok ok and have done it myself

The bugbear with this Ashlynn is that most if not all products which are non-transfer are copyable. Creators for obvious reasons aren't going to allow copt and transfer so you have to balance up which is the more useful, to be able to transfer something to another avatar when not wanted or be able to have copies in various outfit folders for tidyness.

Some creators will give you choices of C/NT or T/NC, maybe with a price difference.

As those that have been around before or at 6/6/2006........thts when the first wave of alts hit SL. Now if i not mistaking LLabs will then again in that time frame left some of the rules and let the flood gates up again. But how easy to signup who know

yes but do they say payment on file?

Welp, just for the record, I just made a 9th alt with a fake name and anonymous email addy I got free off the web.

Need it to be verified?:

http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/04/23/use-of-gift-cards/

Yes, all my alts say Payment on file. That clicked into place as soon as I came to the SL website and added the payment info to the newly-created alt. I refuse to even log in with an NPI account.

I been reading some of the forum and a few people are having problems having it show online even after a cc is entered. thats why i ask.

here rad this......../111/71/178697/1.html

I tried making an alt just for the heck of it, and no dice...

This happened to my wife when she tried to register her own account too. Apparently LL keeps track of what computer you're signing in from, and if someone is already logged in to SL there, or too many people have tried to open new accounts there, you get that message. If you are trying to create legitimate alts from your Premium account, to be billed to this primary account, I don't think there would be a problem.

Actually that is the problem I ran into: I was trying to create a legitimate alt, from my Premium account, to be billed to this primary account. Would have been my first alt. But I still got the 'limited amount of alts, so no go' message.

Just use a yahoo e-mail adress, it's all tied to that.

If LL is limiting the number of alts, why don't they announce it anywhere? I have not found any info on this that is official.

I tried to make a second alt today, no luck. Managed to create it on the website by using a different email address, but of course it didn't ask if I already had an avatar. I'd have paid for the alt, if it had asked. But it wouldn't let me log into SL with the alt even when it let me create it. And I also cancelled the first alt I had already, but since I've seen from here that people can't even make first alts, it can't be only that one alt is too much for the creation of another.

The first alt I had, was made on the same email and cc info as my main avatar. And I made it about two months ago, but I made a mistake while creating it, so thought it would be best if I would try with a second alt now. Obviously this isn't possible anymore, But the LL should have announced it somewhere, if they really have done this on purpose.

If anyone knows that there's an official info on this somewhere, would be great to get to read it. (And if there's such a thing and I just haven't found it, then I am sorry for the trouble, and als wondering, why has it been hidden so that it's not easily found.)

Well I just made this wonderful alt today. I don't think its technically an alt though because I used a completely random email address I made today. We shall see if Linden Lab charges my credit card for it. They really shouldn't because their policy is not clear at this point. If they do? Oh well. Then the experiment will have been a success.

From the TOS Section 2.4:



The emphasis is mine.

So it seems the policy has changed a little since back in the day when you were allowed 5 alts per 'household' .

So at this point I think it's pretty much that you could create all the anonymous unverified unregistered alts your little heart desired, but, as the population explodes and verifications start taking effect, ... you arent going to be able to do much with 'em but (cough) camp and shop for clothes and freebies in the Mature(but not realllllly Adult)/PG sims,