Lindens Please Help The Aussies

Ah but by the wonderful NRA inspired rants we should all have the right to carry a gun incase the Australian government turns communist on us on our way to work

When I wan to shoot a gun, I only have to drive 20min to the nearest rofle/pistol range show ID and hire one or go to friend rural farm. I don't have roos to cull in my yard so no need for one, I can sleep with my windows open without bars or fear, theives here can't afford guns so try not to involve homeowners in robberies, prefering empty houses.

Sorry but if I was that paranoid about being attacked to need a gun, I would be wearing armor, not just carrying a gun, guns don't stop bullets, and don't block baseball bats and knives too well either.

Funny how it's ok to carry a concealed gun but not a Katana or battle axe or even wear armor in some places.

Right to bear arms is obviously working fabulous for you guys, so by all means enjoy it, but don't start telling the rest of the world we have to live that way.

Amen, sister.

I don't care WTF you do in your country. I never suggested you change. I did note that allowing your govt to take your firearms is a mistake in my opinion but at not time did I say you should fight to get them back. That is your countries choice. My countries choice at this time is to allow it. I will fight for the Second Amendment as long as it is an issue in my country. At no time have I said jack shit about the NRA. I don't agree with everything they preach so I tend not to mention them except that I have been a member in the past.

Sarcasm?

Scylla must be feeling guilty about galavanting off to Starbuck's in her Trabant instead of staying home with the kids.

Naaaahhhhhh . . .



(I did a pretty good job of the turkey, didn't I? Eh???? )

S'ok, I only drink Fair Trade.

No, really . . .

That phrase leapt out at me as if in 80-point font, too.

(The sad thing is the number of people who would shake their heads in sorrow at the phrase, mourning the passing of that 'golden age' when females knew their damn place...)

The government can not stop you from accessing SL!

Get a VPN outside your country you can connect through. There are many cheap ones, along the lines of 3 USD a month.

Your government does not have the ability to stop you, and you should not let them.

LOL

I read the phrase as "our country had a sense of family values." Dad could stay home with the kids if Mom didn't mind supporting the family. If it wasn't for all the taxes then most families wouldn't need more than one income.

ETA~Could it be that I'm more fair minded so don't take wording as literally as others might? Nope, I know that isn't the case

I'm all for only one parent needing to work. And I'm all for "family values," if that means caring for and loving one's family, within the context of an equal partnership.

But there is a whole bundle of interconnected values that is encapsulated in that e-mail extract that implies a *deeply* rose-coloured view of the past. This was the generation that cheerfully and unthinkingly sent an entire generation of young men off to die in the charnel houses of the Ypres and the Somme. When migrant Chinese workers slaved (almost literally) for pennies a day to build our railroads. And when it was unthinkable that a woman's place could be anywhere BUT in the home. You can't cherry pick the good from the bad: everything was and is connected.

The past is a fun place to visit, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to live there.

So true.



I do think we can take the good and leave the bad behind. If that is not possible then what is the sense in knowing our past? How would we grow as a people?

Have I donned rose coloured glasses?

Well, cultures and societies are systems, I think: they are intricately interconnected machines, if you like, that work a particular way because of way that ALL of the constituent parts work together. But, of course, they are also capable of evolving.

I think we can always learn from the past. But you can't import bits and pieces of it into a modern context without changing those bits fundamentally in many ways: otherwise, they won't function properly within their new, more modern context.

Learning from the past, I think, means examining it clearly and fully and without a sense of nostalgia. What we build of the future from our understanding of the past may, if we know what we are about, capture the best of that past, but it will always be very very different in many respects from what went before.

Bringing any concept into a society will fundamentally change both the concept and the society. That does not necessarily devalue the integration of "nostalgically" viewed social economic frameworks. I think the original author of the e-mail has a very valid point that taking from the individual for the greater good is actually hurting more than it is helping.

that is awesome, but do they have a power puff girls one? maybe in a p90 or other bullpup design?

I'm not sure how Medicare Tax wound up in a list that's ostensibly Canadian, or do they call it Medicare too?

In any event, liquor taxes, excise taxes, property and real estate taxes are all much older than 100 years, at least in the US.

It was originally written by a Canadian and may have passed through an American's computer so I don't know. I just cut and pasted it from the e-mail. Talking on the phone right now to a Canadian and she says that she does not know because she works for the govt so does not have the heath insurance taken from her checks.

There is no consensus on the reliability of Lott's studies or findings so quoting his work really does nothing other than to underscore that there is no credible evidence that "right-to-carry" laws either decrease or increase violent crime (which is the conclusion that the National Academy of Sciences came to after it conducted a review of current research and data on firearms and violent crime, including Lott's work).

Aussies are very nice

Love the Auzzies.
Have very many happy memories. Gutsy, randy men and full of life women.

And reffing above, why would anyone wanna own a gun? They're so ugly. Like carrying a coffee grinder in your bag or something equally horrid

FIFY

Pep (doesn't use rose tinted spectacles.)

Any site can be regarded as "sick" - it's all relative. Banning Youtube would be like banning the entire magazine section of a newsagents. I use youtube for my work all the time. Banning such a ideal opporunity to educate, inform and entertain would be foolhardy.

Censorship is a propoganda weapon that creates ignorance

well i think my guns are sexy..men seem to think my guns are sexy too lol ..i would never keep them in a bag..i wear mine on my belt or with my shoulder harness all the time..mainly for work but also for those special occasions when i had forgotten my bullet proof bracelets at home..


you can't stop a mountain lion or black bear with good looks..but you can turn them running tail between their butt with a loud bang.

I guess my real point was that the list, like so many things that are broadcast via email, is unreliable. The mix of Canadian and U. S. terminology was just one indication, the error about none of the taxes existing 100 years ago is another, the overlap of types of taxes (real estate tax is a type of property tax, both on the list) to increase the size of the list is another.

I'm sure people on both sides of this issue (and other issues) send out statements that purport to be facts but aren't. This was simply an egregious example, useful for showing that sometimes it takes just a small amount of effort to find such mistakes.

In my opinion, it's bad form to forward such notes without doing something to check its accuracy, or else explicitly acknowledging flaws. Not because it's bad per se, but because it gives the note more publicity than it deserves.