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Sling Trebuchet
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09-03-2009 07:50
I see 4 parcels set Purple in Voidicus sim. They are not on the Auction page yet.
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Nic Writer
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09-03-2009 08:50
Wouldn't it work to do a land search, Mainland, with PG and Mature unchecked? I don't think there IS any Adult mainland other than on Zindra... No. Adult mainland was intended to be its own continent to avoid 'camming-over' issues from PG/Mature land. (^_^)y Right. Adult mainland is separate, on the Zindra continent. So a land search with PG and Mature off would work to show all the land for sale on Zindra, which is all the adult mainland (and the only adult mainland) there is. I think we're saying the same thing from different directions, and the same thing DanielRavenNest says a couple of posts down from yours. I checked inworld, and there is already quite a bit of Adult mainland listed for sale in Search. Interesting range of prices, too. _____________________
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Lord Sullivan
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09-03-2009 10:56
I don't remember seeing that anywhere, and I've been following this pretty closely for the last few months. Does this ring any bells with anyone? At no time have I seen this statement from LL, it was as soon as tier kicks back in when the auctions start to roll then land was OK to sell sure there will be a few days difference in the timings but its as we have been told all along._____________________
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say Moo
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09-03-2009 14:29
if nobody buys land there, the adult project fails horribly for LL.. and all will be restored to former times..
![]() It takes a few weeks max, meaning a few weeks no voilence/sexual commercial activities.. but, that's better than the freaking Zindra bull.. (where you NEED to age verify to be able to teleport there in the future (if it isn't already so)... ) |
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Raymond Figtree
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09-03-2009 14:33
if nobody buys land there, the adult project fails horribly for LL.. and all will be restored to former times.. ![]() It takes a few weeks max, meaning a few weeks no voilence/sexual commercial activities.. but, that's better than the freaking Zindra bull.. (where you NEED to age verify to be able to teleport there in the future (if it isn't already so)... ) |
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Brenda Connolly
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09-03-2009 14:38
if nobody buys land there, the adult project fails horribly for LL.. and all will be restored to former times.. ![]() It takes a few weeks max, meaning a few weeks no voilence/sexual commercial activities.. but, that's better than the freaking Zindra bull.. (where you NEED to age verify to be able to teleport there in the future (if it isn't already so)... ) Can't speak for the future, but right now you don't NEED to be age verified to get to Zindra. Having Payment Info On File will also get you there. Of course LL can change that...and if they do, will tell us 3 months after they do it. _____________________
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Raymond Figtree
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09-03-2009 14:53
I can't check the box that allows me to search adult land on land search. Is that the case for everyone?
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Ceera Murakami
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Join date: 9 Sep 2005
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09-03-2009 14:55
I can't check the box that allows me to search adult land on land search. Is that the case for everyone? Ddi you set your rating preference in your preferences yet? Have to do that first. _____________________
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Raymond Figtree
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09-03-2009 15:02
Ddi you set your rating preference in your preferences yet? Have to do that first. Ok, so there are 35 plots of land available starting at L$9.2 per meter. Since only someone wanting to start an adult business would want this land and be willing to pay L$7 per meter more than the cheapest land on the mainland, I don't see there being a lot of demand for Zindra land. Will be interesting to see if prices drop from this ridiculous level. |
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Treasure Ballinger
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09-03-2009 15:11
Just did that, thanks. Ok, so there are 35 plots of land available starting at L$9.2 per meter. Since only someone wanting to start an adult business would want this land and be willing to pay L$7 per meter more than the cheapest land on the mainland, I don't see there being a lot of demand for Zindra land. Will be interesting to see if prices drop from this ridiculous level. I've seen several forum posts, over time, asking about residential land on zindra. Of course being mainland it's not zoned, so I think some may be looking to buy there, not for businesses but to have a residential parcel there. |
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Raymond Figtree
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09-03-2009 15:12
I've seen several forum posts, over time, asking about residential land on zindra. Of course being mainland it's not zoned, so I think some may be looking to buy there, not for businesses but to have a residential parcel there. Either way, I would hope anyone thinking about buying land there would wait until the auctions start to get a sense of what prices are going to do. Buying now would be an expensive and impulsive move, IMO. |
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DanielRavenNest Noe
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09-03-2009 16:06
Mainland isn't zoned either and it's 700% cheaper. Or am I missing something. Either way, I would hope anyone thinking about buying land there would wait until the auctions start to get a sense of what prices are going to do. Buying now would be an expensive and impulsive move, IMO. On mature mainland you cannot have sex in the open, on Adult land you can. On adult land you are *somewhat* protected from RL underage people and griefers (the ones who don't provide any verification info) And finally, for businesses, who want to catch the adult part of the market, they need to be on adult land to advertise with adult words. The real issue with Zindra prices will be how many Estates will convert their regions to adult, giving competition for it. If it were the *only* adult land, it would be a limited supply, and thus high priced, but as estates can flip a switch and make more adult land, that will hold down the prices. |
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Johnnie Carling
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Join date: 17 Aug 2007
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09-03-2009 17:47
Still wondering who would pay the inflated prices for Zindra land.
With 25or so new sims in the last few days, and prob over 100 to 150 sims yet to be put online, and plenty of unclaimed land all over Zindra, it's not like there is any shortage of land. (Not counting the 2x prim land) |
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Raymond Figtree
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09-03-2009 18:15
On mature mainland you cannot have sex in the open, on Adult land you can. On adult land you are *somewhat* protected from RL underage people and griefers (the ones who don't provide any verification info) And finally, for businesses, who want to catch the adult part of the market, they need to be on adult land to advertise with adult words. The real issue with Zindra prices will be how many Estates will convert their regions to adult, giving competition for it. If it were the *only* adult land, it would be a limited supply, and thus high priced, but as estates can flip a switch and make more adult land, that will hold down the prices. Not that I see the attraction, but no one will stop you from having sex in the open, if that is your preference on the Mainland. I have not been approached by anyone on the Mainland in about a year, let alone an underage person or a griefer. Other than being able to advertise or sell adult content, the Mainland is an inexpensive place where you are free to do whatever the heck you want. |
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Smith Peel
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09-03-2009 19:11
Just did that, thanks. Ok, so there are 35 plots of land available starting at L$9.2 per meter. Since only someone wanting to start an adult business would want this land and be willing to pay L$7 per meter more than the cheapest land on the mainland, I don't see there being a lot of demand for Zindra land. Will be interesting to see if prices drop from this ridiculous level. I think that's a very good price. I just sold a very nice piece of Mature for 48L$/sqm. Just cuz the cheapest mainland price is so low doesn't mean that nothing is selling for more. _____________________
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Ceera Murakami
Texture Artist / Builder
Join date: 9 Sep 2005
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09-03-2009 19:17
Read the threads that came out when Bay City went up for auction. Or when Nautilus City went up for auction. Many speculators bought prime spots and squatted on them with a 1-prim for sale sign, asking insane prices for each parcel. Others went a step further, and errected towering eyesores as well as placing an insane price on the land. Some just put up eyesores and quietly waited for people to offer to buy them out. Still selling only if offered insane prices.
Consider also that parcels in most of the Northeren edge of Zindra, in Kama City and along the north and West coastlines, are double-primmed land. Twice the prims for the same tier each month as normal land. Personally, I think when LL opens the auctions in general, the speculators will do exactly as they did in Bay City and in Nautilus, snapping up as much land as they can in hopes of flipping it for insane profits. And I hope they choke on it, if they do. But for a while I fear we will see prices in Zindra that will make L$9 per M2 look reasonable. What I *hope* will happen is that the speculators will be told to take their insane prices and shove it, and that LL will continue to dump more Zindra sims on line, until the speculator's wallets run dry, and normal people can buy at normal prices. And that many more pivate sims will over Adult rated sim space, as well. _____________________
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Raymond Figtree
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09-03-2009 19:30
I think that's a very good price. I just sold a very nice piece of Mature for 48L$/sqm. Just cuz the cheapest mainland price is so low doesn't mean that nothing is selling for more. Congrats on selling land for such a high price in this glutted market. |
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Raymond Figtree
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09-03-2009 19:33
Read the threads that came out when Bay City went up for auction. Or when Nautilus City went up for auction. Many speculators bought prime spots and squatted on them with a 1-prim for sale sign, asking insane prices for each parcel. Others went a step further, and errected towering eyesores as well as placing an insane price on the land. Some just put up eyesores and quietly waited for people to offer to buy them out. Still selling only if offered insane prices. Consider also that parcels in most of the Northeren edge of Zindra, in Kama City and along the north and West coastlines, are double-primmed land. Twice the prims for the same tier each month as normal land. Personally, I think when LL opens the auctions in general, the speculators will do exactly as they did in Bay City and in Nautilus, snapping up as much land as they can in hopes of flipping it for insane profits. And I hope they choke on it, if they do. But for a while I fear we will see prices in Zindra that will make L$9 per M2 look reasonable. What I *hope* will happen is that the speculators will be told to take their insane prices and shove it, and that LL will continue to dump more Zindra sims on line, until the speculator's wallets run dry, and normal people can buy at normal prices. And that many more pivate sims will over Adult rated sim space, as well. |
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Marianne McCann
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Join date: 23 Feb 2006
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09-03-2009 19:43
Read the threads that came out when Bay City went up for auction. Or when Nautilus City went up for auction. Many speculators bought prime spots and squatted on them with a 1-prim for sale sign, asking insane prices for each parcel. Others went a step further, and errected towering eyesores as well as placing an insane price on the land. Some just put up eyesores and quietly waited for people to offer to buy them out. Still selling only if offered insane prices. ..or heck, even when Nova Albion went up for auction, if you really want to dig back. _____________________
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DanielRavenNest Noe
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09-03-2009 20:43
By the way, there are 8 auction parcels showing now in Zindra, Voidicus and Charlesville regions.
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Clarissa Lowell
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Join date: 10 Apr 2006
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09-03-2009 22:18
Read the threads that came out when Bay City went up for auction. Or when Nautilus City went up for auction. Many speculators bought prime spots and squatted on them with a 1-prim for sale sign, asking insane prices for each parcel. People are STILL asking insane prices in Bay City. :/ (With those lots sitting for weeks.) What I *hope* will happen is that the speculators will be told to take their insane prices and shove it, and that LL will continue to dump more Zindra sims on line, until the speculator's wallets run dry, and normal people can buy at normal prices. And goodness and mercy reigned throughout the land! Some sellers in RL and in SL just do not want to loosen the grip they are holding onto yesterday's prices with. _____________________
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Marcel Flatley
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Join date: 29 Jul 2007
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09-04-2009 01:49
Well if the prices of 88888 linden per 2048 sqm double prim land in my sim are an example for what this land can sell for, I won't be in Zindra for long
Somehow I doubt people will pay these insane prices, even for double prim mainland. But if they sell, my parcels will be put up for sale pretty fast as well ![]() _____________________
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Gummo Zaks
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Join date: 27 Oct 2008
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09-04-2009 04:10
Read the threads that came out when Bay City went up for auction. Or when Nautilus City went up for auction. Many speculators bought prime spots and squatted on them with a 1-prim for sale sign, asking insane prices for each parcel. Others went a step further, and errected towering eyesores as well as placing an insane price on the land. Some just put up eyesores and quietly waited for people to offer to buy them out. Still selling only if offered insane prices. Consider also that parcels in most of the Northeren edge of Zindra, in Kama City and along the north and West coastlines, are double-primmed land. Twice the prims for the same tier each month as normal land. Personally, I think when LL opens the auctions in general, the speculators will do exactly as they did in Bay City and in Nautilus, snapping up as much land as they can in hopes of flipping it for insane profits. And I hope they choke on it, if they do. But for a while I fear we will see prices in Zindra that will make L$9 per M2 look reasonable. What I *hope* will happen is that the speculators will be told to take their insane prices and shove it, and that LL will continue to dump more Zindra sims on line, until the speculator's wallets run dry, and normal people can buy at normal prices. And that many more pivate sims will over Adult rated sim space, as well. IMHO bay city is the best themed land out there and is still cheaper than shermerville which isn't double primed |