do YOU need LL's help with your brand?

who thinks up this crap?

Second Life is riddled with content theft. The Lab wants to address it. They improve their intellectual content theft complaint mechanism by (pretending now at least ) to READ complaints.

andthen add some loopy socialist scheme to give a "seal of approval" to content sellers. well REAL markets dont work that way. reputations are built by ACTIONS, (and advertizing).

I've violated the tos and been punished. I"M a BAD content creator because i've hurt people's feelings in this forum, orbited the contestants at a beauty contest, orbited and kept orbiting everyone on a sim til they stopped trying to tp back, rezzed invisible prims al over some tards sim, vandalized some lindens wiki page, cursed out a tard in a MATURE sim (the words were REALLY bad hehehehe) called some chick a linden boot licker on the official linden blog" and i think that's about it lmao.

i'm a bad seller caws of that . well dont buy our stuff!

Unless a disciplinary action has something directly to do with their business, I'm not sure why it should even be considered as part of their nonsense program.

Just ignore it. I wouldn't've thought you'd be so eagar to get a stamp of approval anyway.

Because then they can say they did something. It may not be effective but they can say they tried. There is no way to stop content theft in SL. It's a part of the open source world. Dumbest idea ever.

truly craptastic idea!

wedontwant their approval.

Wow.. I actually understood that!

Jumpy must be quite upset!

naw. i just wonderwho sits around and dreams up this crap in the lab. who are they paying real monies to pull these rabbits out their crax.

from the kiddie porn ban (though i ageeed with that) to the gamblin ban (didnt agree with that) to the banking ban (dont agree with that) to the new adult rules (zindra is a hole and dont agreewith that) to this shifty, sketchy content creators turdfest (we do agree withthe need to rid the grid of content theft)

The Lab goes from total inaction "who cares" to "we're so concerned" tryin to kill cockroaches with a shotgun overreaction. Measures that fail fail and ever fail.

people still rp kiddie porn in sl and we're gonna expose that.
people still gamble in sl and we're gonna shed light on that.
dont know if any craptacular banx exist but if they do we gonna find them
DO know that zindra sux and if you dont we gonna fill ya in.

Real market businesses have customers and clients asking stupid things like "is your business ISO certified?", "Will this program you develop for me follow industry standards?", "Is this applicant MS Certified?", "Is there a green-logo on this wooden bench?", "Does this restaurant have a Michelin star?".
Sooo Linden Labs hops onto the wagon and is introducing their own seal of approval. The question is, whether they can keep personal interests (friends, etc.) seperated from this system. If even one person is forgiven some mistakes, simply because he has friends in the Linden family, while others have no chance qualifying for this "seal of approval" because they once made a lesser mistake, then this scheme is bound to fail even worse than the land transfer to Zindra did, with full sims going on sale by known landflippers within days of opening, while some valid requests are still on the waiting list.

/me would bet money that it's nobody that works in the actual lab...

And, don't forget about the other conditions. (>_<

Not yet knowing the threshold, I can assume that my little trinket store won't qualify simply because I'm not moving enough product. (=_=)

So, an aspiring content creator can't join the program because they're not moving enough transactions and they're not moving enough transactions because nobody trusts a vendor outside the program. (=_=)

What will come of it? Vendor barons. People who can script up profit sharing vendors and sell your little items... For a 'reasonable' fee of course. And will stand on their "good name" while your creativity is stifled in order to reach targeted consumer markets in order to stay in good personal standing with your friendly Vendor Baron... (=_=)

lawyers no doubt help craft this crap. as in "u can do this and suffer no actionable ramifications and still appear to adress these concerns" or " or the governemtnis going to more than likely regulate us and amke us do such and such so we may as well self-regulate and do such and such first." smacks of cowardace to me. you CAN fight city hall. you CAN go to prison for a principle.

People who rip content regularly have no intention of staying for long, it's a set up for a few weeks, sell sell sell, and re-appear on an alt kind of deal so as nice as the seal sounds, it really won't solve the problem.

Also new creators won't have this seal...Will they be looked down upon? Probably and that's a shame.

Needing payment info on file to sell will kill off a lot of content thieves, the rest will be far easier to trace

As an entitlistic, haughty, and pompous premium account holder; I claim in entitlement to be part of the program by default. (^_^)y

i'm sure of one thing:

when i'm out shopping for something and i'm to choose between a vendor with the "linden seal of approval" and one without i'm going to take my business to the one without.

Do I get to choose which Linden gets branded?

This may be the wrong solution to a perceived problem, there's been a lot of that going on inside Linden Lab lately, but consider this other side of the coin.

In real life we have this organization called the Better Business Bureau. The BBB actually does have teeth, and real life business do not want to get on their bad list. It's very important to have a good rating with them. Even brand new startups are somewhat OK though, in their setup. Granted it's an outfit they legitmately state they know absolutely nothing about, but at least they don't specifically state that the business is a negative just because it's an unknown.

There are many reasons why a BBB in SL, WITH TEETH, is also necessary, but as yet nobody's proposals to create such a thing have ever been a viable means of doing so. It would be very nice if the actual BBB would just get on with it and move in and do their thing. This smells to me like LL at least attempting to put together a viable program along the lines of the BBB, even if it's not the right answer.

God I can't tell you how much I wish I had been there to witness that.

I think the move is toward licensing retailers. People will be able to transfer stuff freely to all and sundry at zero cost, but if you want to sell stuff you're going to need a license.

To get one, you're going to have to sign a contract stipulating that you're going to be a good person, not trade in stolen property, give an undertaking to provide customers with a modicum of service and product guarantee, yada yada yada. All the usual stuff that we expect from RL retailers. Breach the contract and you lose your license.

Probably everyone who applies will get a license, provided they have a verified account.

Not such a bad thing really, retail licensing, if we accept that digital content has some value to those who create it and to those willing to purchase it.

Retailing works for creators who prefer the craft shop approach. I make and sell my own stuff directly. And it also works for those who prefer to just make stuff and let a major retail outlet (chain even) deal with the buying public. And the public get to choose where they shop so thats all good as well.

Jumpman won't.

Yeah but it's normal, look at him he's ebil !

I would think that he would. He has paid already for any sins that he has previously committed. At least those he has been prosecuted for. He (or anyone else) cant (shouldnt) be punished for a crime he (or they) have yet to commit, if ever.

If he was denied a retail license on this basis it would be because he was deemed to be an unfit person. And thats subjective, FICCy and whimsey. Blue Mars is doing this I believe, or at least the indications are that they are thinking about going down this road. Pre-judging who is fit and proper. Dumb idea I think.

Much better to simply say; Sign here, bugger it up and you're toast.

its my understanding that any sort of past suspension precludes one from becoming 'licensed', no matter if the suspension was unrelated to commerce or, or even many years old.
its going to be VERY interesting to see who the exceptions to this rule are.

Read Cyn's blog post on this. Part of the proposed lan is being suspended for any reason permenantly disqualified you from the program.

For the most part the BBB now offers memberships to anyone that pays them enough money. As such, any "teeth" it might have had have been ground down. Many people consider the BBB a joke:

http://www.bbbroundup.com/BBBblog/blog1.php

As a for instance... when I filed a BBB complaint against Dell last year I noticed that Dell had something like 1.8 complaints filed against it PER DAY for every single day in the last reporting period. In total there were over 3000 complaints for that period, most of them "unresovled". Doesn't seem to have slowed Dell down one bit. Nor did the complaint I filed do a drop of good in resolvinig my issue with Dell. Probably because Dell pays the BBB a lot of money for their "good" rating.



Easy... the ones who are making the most money.



If it's not the right answer, why bother wasting everyone's time with it?