Oh no, Infohubs

Moles are so boring infohubs are something you can see every morning when you go work on thursday morning
New infohubs are useless.

I believe it is we the people that make an info hub worthwhile, not LL.

LL should change the boring moles ,,, really who like the boring Bay city? It's not creative it's a boring mass of sculpted land with nothing interesting unless LL place 10 infohubs.

I LOVE BAY CITY!

anyone else?

Heh - I *think* you know my answer.

(But this is about th' hubs!)

Just saw the new builds at Hau koda ... boring just like a Barnesworth build that use the same textures for over 10 years.

No shapes nothing interesting nothing nothing

Wow.. Never heard of anybody dissing the moles before. Did they dig up your garden or something?

That's right, Nika, it was you. I was pretty sure it was either you or Lindal but couldn't put my thumb on it.

I wonder what an average amount of space is used for an InfoHub. I've seen tiny ones, and large ones.

You know, at the Hangout, we have that parcel to the north of the building that we had originally slated for lectures, a garden, or whatever. Now I believe it houses a bull-riding game and occasionally a yard sale. We already own the plot, have regulars at the Hangout who could sort of "patrol" and coach, and a terrific bunch of freebies started already... hmmm...

hee!

I accidentally TP'd into one of these new infohubs. I was going through my landmarks, many of which were dead or had long since changed. I followed one straight into an infohub.

I wasn't even there for five seconds by the time my IM's lit up like a christmas tree with people hitting on me! I seriously felt dirty after that experience!

It is exactly why a dedicated Group for each HUB is needed. I am sorry for your experience. It really isn't like that everywhere.

I have a new resident resources notecard* giver at Ambat to encourage people to explore, not just pile up in confusion, however some people just like congregating in a familiar area and there's nothing wrong with that as long as they don't make trouble. I don't think amassing free things at infohubs is at all a good idea.

The infohub experience changes over time as different regulars spend time there, and can be unpleasant if the regulars include a few griefing types. I get IMs from regulars about things going on, and I have an alt who lives there, but serious problems don't go on much these days. If there's trouble I get IMs, then TP in and encourage people to file ARs, and encourage them to just go exploring and come back later. I used to screenshot and video griefing incidents but for ages there was no one to pass information on to; I'm very, very glad Blondin is here now.

The past few days the region has been ZOMG lagged out, for some reason, and we do have spampire trouble, but mostly it's the normal ups and downs. The nice thing is that I get happy IMs as often as unhappy ones.

* With landmarks of other new resident sites, freebie places, great places to explore, and so on.

Linden Lab rezzed the first 'infohub' in 2006. Since then LL has made it quite clear it WILL NOT dedicate any staff time to making these places work. At least enough complaining from mainland tier payers got them to make the new ones on their own islands.

The original mission of the infohubs have been long forgotten. They are used now to just funnel in free accounts and give greifers a place to release on complete strangers. Linden Lab can boast more online hours based on avatars just standing in these parking lots 24 hours a day (Linden Lab's version of 'camping' for numbers).

If, after 3 years, no employee at Linden Lab can figure out how to mobilize 3,000 official volunteers to make these places work - It is time to admit they are failed projects.

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I hear ya Osprey. There is a youtube vid i'd like to share with everyone. Made by a freind of mine and it captures many bad things as well as many good things.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUfGy8wC7rg&feature=PlayList&p=8ED5428D54426650&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=4

Infohubs need to be streamlined to load fast. Lots of repeated textures and less prims and less plants. These places need to render fast because there are 40 avatars standing there!

I think the informational signs around the infohubs need to be more sassy. More eye catching! Attention grabbing! I'm thinking of glowing animated signs with particles coming out of them saying stuff like, "Bored? Try this!" or "Where's the sex? Right here!" ...etc.

She said she found them boring.

Such concern for these infohubs but you continue to allow a non-Linden Lab employee to use Linden Lab land to greif an entire sim.

The 'selling point' of these mainland infohubs to the people paying tier was that folks rezzing there would see the sim they landed in and explore it. Yet a resident is empowered and encouraged by Linden Department of Public Works to block the entire sim from the infohub that the tier payers in the sim pay to support. Every Linden knows about this but say they are powerless against this resident and cannot remove the wall (which, of course, is nonsense).

This outrage goes against Linden Lab's claim of wanting to encourage more premium accounts. The greif wall around the Bear Infohub is a momument that represents so much about Linden Lab.

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In before the lock.

Lol, I put away my soapbox. Please proceed.

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Some people have tunnel vision.

Some people have dirty minds.
On the hole.. I think the assertion is well grounded.

What's the deal with Infohubs like Violet and Periwinkle? They don't show on the map and you can't set your Home location there.

Maybe the Cartel should just adopt an existing Infohub, it sounds like there are some in need of patrolling and help. We could make a Google calendar and sign up for shifts to provide help/coverage - be a good time to sort inventory, if nothing else!

Should go visit the Violet infohub ... did Ingrid build it, or what?
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Thanks for the response, Blondin, very clear. Can you share any stats on how many new residents are using each of the gateway destinations?

I don't see how LL can improve the 1st hour experience when you have so little control over where it takes place, but - thank the primal cause! - that is not my problem.