WHY Can't The Lindens PREVENT This??!!

Well, SL has turned several expensive sets of clothing completely black lately (as in it turns half my av black or more - like a silhouette). I could honestly use this to retrieve some of those.

But since it keeps happening, seems like a lost battle. Yes, I've read the threads here that address this; nothing seems to help permanently.

I also wish I hadn't created my av from a freebie shape (no transfer). It's completely different but now, should I get an alt (cough) I can't send it there. And it's taken months of tweaking its details to get it how I want. Oh well.

Should I wish to make a full perm shape btw, do I begin with Ruth? And what if I wanna make a male one for friends who are new. I'd like to put together a really kickbutt noobie kit. Off topic a bit but hey, I hope someone can help anyway.

I myself don't build anything other than full perm, and free of charge.
I am not a capitalist, and it's just a game. But some feel the need to steal one's creations.

I came across some shop that sold an item that could copy any no-copy item, and make it full-perm for you

It was expensive around 10K L$, I know this thing is against the rules, and anyone buying or selling it can be banned permanently.

So why doesn't this happen? Linden Labs has no problem with criminals? It's what I think at least.

(I'm conservatively guessing, here) About 2% would use it to retrieve things they had bought but which had got ruined, or transfer things they had made, but yeh a lot would use it for bad things. I've seen shops with copybot protection, I assumed all places could just do that. (I wish I could get some of the clothes back but I understand the rules, so oh well; I sure don't wanna get in trouble for a legit use of a banned product. I like my SL)

Kasuga: Whatever I make, (and I'm a real real beginner so far Lol) I make full perm, too. (This next part said because some ppl when hearing ppl make things to help others send long IMs about ruining the SL economy. :/ ) I obviously believe in and support the SL community content creators - anyone wanna see how long my ($L stuff) inventory list is? lol - but I also realise that not all people HAVE the lindens or can get them for whatever reason...especially newcomers who haven't even figured what the linden is yet...so I just think it's nice to make full perm things. And - I like to share. =) IOW - that's cool Kasuga.

YMMV, all.

I should make screenshots of what I made, and create a shop with free items somewhere.
But the only land I own is already full. I can't even rezz a single cube

How 'bout on SLX? Is it free to list there?

Just an idea

I don't know why: Learn from the music industry. If you can play it or see it, you can copy it. There's no way around this. If you want to protect yourself from this edge case, charge for your real time as a builder rather than selling imaginary objects and expecting to make it up in volume.

I've read major problems about that community. The rude and humanly inept dwell there. O.o

It's a community? I meant the online shopping SL site. But I dunno much about it...

As others have noted, this is impossible to stop or avoid.

Completely stopping all piracy in general is impossible, and would surely affect usability in whatever is in question. However, this doesn't mean that one should leave the gates open- which is something some propose. A notable recent example is the game "World of Goo" which had a 90% piracy rate. This game was made by a very small company (two people,) and had absolutely zero DRM (digital rights management, or tools to make piracy harder.) Not making it easy to pirate works, as this will deter most people who would casually pirate via inconvenience. SL already has this via the permissions system.

It's called Xstreet now and I sell a few items, the marketplace has nothing to do with the community, in 2 years I have only looked at the forums there 3 or 4 times. I just have tit-bits, at low prices, I should put more up. In two years it has made me about 2500 $L, which is enough for my upload costs.

I've a lucky chair, so I don't tend to worry about people hanging around. I've kind of worried about the whole copybot-GLintercept thing, but I realized that if I kept worrying about it, I'd create exactly nothing.

This is exactly how I shop. Move away from the TP landing point somewhat, and cam. If I spot something on the cam that interests me I may then walk towards it or maybe not, might just do a purchase from where I'm standing. While I"m camming of course I am just standing there. I too would leave if approached for being suspicious for just standing there. There are 'probably' more SL citizens who would never steal, or don't know how to steal, than those who would, or do know how. YOu don't want to alienate your legit customers in paranoia about thievery. There is one store, that when you arrive, a notecard drops. I opened it the first time it happened because it's titled: FREE GIFT INSIDE! Or something like that. What it really is, is a warning, caution, threat about what will happen to you if you try to steal textures. There's no gift at all, lol. I go to that store now much less often, and just discard the notecard when it drops. Also, if I go there at all anymore, it's a last resort, I will try everyplace else first, because of this.

hi

try if the rc viewer fixes the black clothing.

for the no transfer shape, just write down the numbers for all the sliders, create a new shape and paste the numbers in
you can switch between female and male shape below the legs button

Easy answer, because they don't want to.

Easy? Maybe. Correct? No.

Hush, she believes in Santa, see her sig. Don't spoil it for her.

Just FYI, GLintercept is a debugging tool for OpenGL developers. It was never intended to be used for copyright infringement, as it does a LOT more than simply copy textures from video memory. Thus, it is no more meant to be an infringement tool than your average VHS tape recorder or DVD burner. Yes, you CAN use it for infringement, but it also has substantial non-infringing uses, and was not specifically designed OR built with infringement in mind.



There is no such thing as "copybot protection". Period. All of the existing "systems" to "thwart copybot" use a command ("!quit" IMed to the bot which only was functional in a very early version that was never widely circulated, and was not functional in the version that was widely circulated at the time all those "protection systems" were created. Thus, they are, and have always been, USELESS. All they do is spam everyone within scanner range.

Any "store" that has one of those is receiving ZERO protection from copybot and similar applications. In addition they are violating the ToS, are likely to get ARed repeatedly, and the owner get suspended from SL for spamming. Kind of a high price to pay for a false sense of security, if you ask me.

/me underlines "Period." a few times for Talarus. With a red marker.

...AND the Easter Bunny....AND the Tooth Fairy...AND the inherent goodness of all things Linden...AND....

Was wondering. How about there being an option in the Image Upload dialog which when ticked adds a digital watermark containing an invisible checksum linking the image to the name of the avatar uploading it. Then if a different avatar extracts that texture from their cache and attempts to re-upload it the server rejects the upload. The thieves would have an extra burden before duplicating content and that's always a good thing, and no legit users or content creators would be inconvenienced as far as I can see.

If the watermark is added server side then Linden Labs could even offer a service to add a watermark to textures already in use while preserving the texture UUID. I'd be happy to pay a few lindens vs go through the hassle of relocating/re-uploading textures, so could be a nice little money earner for Linden Labs too.

Hmm I see the copybot protection announcement whenever I go to a certain very well known skin shop...

The sliders thing is a good idea, I can try it - do I begin with Ruth for a full perm shape resulting? The only thing about slider stats, I began with a freebie shape, although I totally changed it, the sliders would've begun at a different point than the full perm shape I guess. But, I can try. Thanks.

So does this mean I *can* use GLintercept to get some textures back if they stay black? =)

Well I know I can but I mean, without it being 'bad', etc.

PS, I've stood in stores before sorting inventory or opening things I just bought. Other times the mall takes a long time to rez. Either might mean I stand there a while more than it takes to just fly and buy. Or maybe I get distracted RL and then go back to shopping. So, all of that might mean I actually stand *in* a shop a while.

I also tend to buy lots at a trip, in a store, if I like their things, because I may not remember to/have time to/want to go back again. If I like it I get it when I see it pretty much usually.

All of these things seem to raise suspicion in the copy type of threads...Designers! Some people just like your clothing. =0 Lol

if you create a new shape it will be ruth i think
in your inventory window just click "create/new body parts/new shape"

it takes some time, but since the sl database is not very reliable it´s a good idea anyway to have a textfile of your shape settings if you put a lot work into it and want to be sure to not loose it

the result will look exactly like the shape you have now if you copy all numbers

Oh that is great news, thanks!

I didn't know that if you put 'create new shape' it would make a whole new Ruth or new shape, I thought it would still work from the one the av wore at the time.

Kinda like when I was sleepy and making clothes in edit appearances, and forgot I was already wearing some. Lol One way to ruin existing ones. Lol

I will try the settings thing then...thanks!

Anthony, I just unloaded two pumps of Freeze and Shine hairspray on my monitor to kill the "bug" in your sig. OMG do I feel stupid.


BTW, you owe me a monitor.

It is possible to do, but do note that there are ways to remove "hidden watermarks" successfully, and there are applications available in the "digital underground" that you can get to do it for certain kinds of well-known watermarking techniques. As such, it still won't prevent copyright infringement, just make it slightly more difficult for the "average Joe" to do. Unfortunately, the "average Joe" isn't the main source of copyright infringement for assets in SL, since most don't know how to do it anyway.



They could quite easily auto-watermark all images where the owner and creator are the same, without having to require re-uploading. Invisible watermarking is done usually after any compression, and since all images already uploaded are already compressed, the watermarking can be done without having to re-compress them, which would require re-uploading.