Sorry once the employer made threats, any and all loyalty and respect due her from Dallas was void. Dallas would be within her rights to recruit every one of her former co workers and customers.
As I said, spite and nastiness.
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Lias Leandros
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12-18-2007 18:41
Sorry once the employer made threats, any and all loyalty and respect due her from Dallas was void. Dallas would be within her rights to recruit every one of her former co workers and customers. As I said, spite and nastiness. _____________________
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Chris Norse
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12-18-2007 18:53
As I said, spite and nastiness. If the employer made threats, then why should Dallas respect her? If you play dirty, you can't expect others to treat you with respect. _____________________
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Jessica Elytis
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12-18-2007 20:44
As the OP is not agressively hiring former co-workers, nor attempting to take previous clients, I don't see a problem.
If former co-workers ask to work for her, the polite, and 'right' thing to do would be help them out and hire them if they have the proper skills. That's good management (hiring those that ahve the skills and want to work), and has absolutely nothing to do with an attack on a former employer. The same goes for the clients. Asking them to come to a new place would be wrong. Hiding from them would be just as wrong. If they're looking for somthing that is no longer at the former place of buisness, then apparently that buisness does not supply them with what they desire. That is the entire point of a buisness. In the line of buisness she's in, attitude is everything, so stealing customers would be a bad thing. Lieing to customers about a competitor is also a bad thing. So whichever side is telling the truth (no attack is meant on either by that statement, jsut no way to really tell on the forums), then it will come to light eventually. I sincerely wish Dallas all the best. It sounds like she's doing what everyone dreams of doing. Forging out on her own to do the best she can, without trying to hurt anyone else. In the line of buisness she's in, attitude is everything, so stealing customers would be a bad thing. ~Jessy _____________________
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Lias Leandros
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12-18-2007 21:55
As the OP is not agressively hiring former co-workers, nor attempting to take previous clients, I don't see a problem. If former co-workers ask to work for her, the polite, and 'right' thing to do would be help them out and hire them if they have the proper skills. That's good management (hiring those that ahve the skills and want to work), and has absolutely nothing to do with an attack on a former employer. I sincerely wish Dallas all the best. It sounds like she's doing what everyone dreams of doing. Forging out on her own to do the best she can, without trying to hurt anyone else. In the line of buisness she's in, attitude is everything, so stealing customers would be a bad thing. ~Jessy Well since she is partially financing her dream by taking two of her employer's staff with her - She is not exactly leaving on her own. She convinced two employed people to quit their jobs and leave with her. In the escort business that translates into alot of customers who may have split loyalties now. I think Dallas should take the two staff she got and leave her employer's business alone. _____________________
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Cristalle Karami
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12-18-2007 21:59
Well since she is partially financing her dream by taking two of her employer's staff with her - She is not exactly leaving on her own. She convinced two employed people to quit their jobs and leave with her. In the escort business that translates into alot of customers who may have split loyalties now. I think Dallas should take the two staff she got and leave her employer's business alone. I don't read it that way, Lias. It could be three co-worker friends opening up their own club, to run the business they know in a way they would prefer. How many people go out and open their own club without partners? It is not the same as deciding to do it, getting the facility, and then stealing 2 employees. It sounds quite different, more like a joint venture between people who trust each other, rather than a bald recruiting effort. _____________________
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Dallas Pennell
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12-19-2007 02:24
I don't read it that way, Lias. It could be three co-worker friends opening up their own club, to run the business they know in a way they would prefer. How many people go out and open their own club without partners? It is not the same as deciding to do it, getting the facility, and then stealing 2 employees. It sounds quite different, more like a joint venture between people who trust each other, rather than a bald recruiting effort. That is exactly what happened. I also thing that any loyalty I may have had, was extinguished with the griefing threats and the threat to crash the entire sim, which includes numerous un involved reesidents and merchants, as well as the sim owners. If I interpret Lias correctly, once you go to work for someone, you them a life time of fealty and should never open up you rown business. I'm not sure where you're from but in the US we have this thing called the 13th Amendment which prohibits slavery. Keep in mind also that nowhere have I mentioned the name of the former employer, the name of her club or the name of my club. One deciding factor in opening up our club was, given the anger mangement issues which were manifestly obvious, each of us realized that sooner or later we would be targets of it and fired on the spot for God knows whatever. We decided to be pro active, acquire the land begin building the club [which is not really open], inform the club owner in advance of our decision and leave. The owner by the way, and I worked at another club as employees before she opened her present club. When she left to open her club she recruited me. I was glad she did. She operates a very good club which is mostly fun to work at and the customers are treated well. I had no complaints about working there, other than being nervous about her quite famous temper. I left simply because I didnt want to fired, ejected and banned on the spot for some offense and, more importantly, because I wanted to run my own place. |
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Jessica Elytis
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12-19-2007 06:54
In the escort business that translates into alot of customers who may have split loyalties now. Which is why an owner of such a buisness should be civil and pleasant in every single faction of thier buisness. Esspecially with dealing with their own workers. If you treat workers poorly, word gets out. People won't want to come there as much, esspecially "regulars". This includes workers who decided to move out on their own. SL is a big place, and I HIGHLY doubt Dallas will be opening a store up in the same sim *smirks*. A better way to handle it would have been to wish them luck. While some may think it silly to wish the "compitition" luck, in THIS line of buisness, there will never be a lack of customers ![]() I will offer Dallas one piece of advice she may already have learned from this. Owners of such buisnesses have very little to do with the actual business. It's the workers that make or break it. Treat them well and they'll return the favor. ~Jessy _____________________
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Lias Leandros
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12-19-2007 13:18
If I interpret Lias correctly, once you go to work for someone, you them a life time of fealty and should never open up you rown business. I'm not sure where you're from but in the US we have this thing called the 13th Amendment which prohibits slavery. Open your own business without purging your most recent employer's business - that is what I am saying Dallas. Conspiring with two of her staff and having a open door policy to take anymore of her staff that get the word that you will hire them is wrong in my opinion. The owner by the way, and I worked at another club as employees before she opened her present club. When she left to open her club she recruited me. I was glad she did. To me, this sort of behavior is just wrong and under-handed. _____________________
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