AR-able?

I was employed as a stripper and escort and did quite well at it. Two others and I are opening up our own club soon. We told our employer that we would be leaving her employ to do this, rather than just sneak around behind her back. She has now gone ballistic over this - virtually to the point of lunacy.

She threatened me that she would send griefers to crash the sim we are in. The sim is owned by a land baron who has a good reputation. One of my business partners has notified the sim owners.

I have the IM chat logs of the threats.

My questions are (1) what can we do oprevent this? (2) I'm sure actually crashing a sim is an AR offense, but is THREATENING to crash one AR able?

What's funny aboutthe whole thing is she went on and on about what terrible employees we were yet is SO upset about us leaving! Go figure....

I would appreciate any advice and/or counsel you forum posters can give.

Thanks.

I think it may fall under harassment, which is ARable.. however, if anything, ban, mute, etcetera... and if she does crash it, AR and get lotsa people to AR

I'd guess until something is actually done, you really can't do anything about it. And even then, you'd have to prove she was responsible for it if it does happen, but you could ASR the actual griefers. Odds are she is just blustering.

Ignore them, enjoy your new club and acquaintances,
AR if/as it happens and still enjoy your new club and acquaintances.
They will become preoccupied with new strippers and escorts.

If she continues to be nutty over it, you can AR her for harrassment, but like the others here, I'd recommend ignoring her and moving on with your new place. Good luck!

Mute.

Enjoy your new buisness.

Crashing a sim is a way to a perm ban. Not something a buisness owner wants. So your ex-employer is just blowing smoke (or is an idiot).

~Jessy

I think this is excellent advice and I will follow it. Thanks to all of you!

Threats are AR-able. Probably just anger that won't lead to anything, but doesn't hurt to start her rap sheet.

I'd pretend to have muted her, but keep a log of anything more that's said, just in case. But when weird stuff happens at the new place, don't automatically assume it's her. Weird stuff happens all the time.

Club owners should assume that many of their staff have dreams of owning their own venue. The Venue owner may be stressing about other things and lashing out at the closes target.

Just take care not to take any of her staff or other resources with you when you leave.

We're not recruiting any of her staff memebers, although if they want to work for us and meet our criteria, we're interested.

We're not recruiting any customers either...although some of us have clients who really enjoy us. I figure they will find us.

The club owner is a pretty smart and very hard working business woman who has made a real success in a niche market [transgendered escorts and strippers aka "shemales"]. Other than wanting to try my hand at owning my own club, my only real problem with her was that she has always had angermanagement issues. I was never the target of these but figured my turn was inevitably coming.

I plan on leaving her alone and honestly hope for her continued success. I just want her to leave me alone.

I really appreciate all of the good advice I'm getting here.

Sounds like you are getting an authentic hooker experience when you try to ditch your pimp. Im sorry for your predicament but I just thought this was sort of funny.

Then your definitely giving her something to be angry about. You learned the business from someone free of charge. Show your thanks by not hiring her staff or making a effort to take her client base. Bad karma. What goes around comes around.

I agree wholeheartedly that what goes around comes around. I guess it's just the spirit of your post I'd gently disagree with.

If one is an employee, then there is (allegedly in my case) work being done. It's hardly learning the business for free.

Everyone comes to know the ins and outs of the industry they work in, and if they have the gumption, they usually move on to fill the gaping holes in customer service or business opportunity that their original employers did not fill - or they flop thinking they understand something much more complex than they actually do.

Either way, they have not ripped off an employer by watching and learning when they did their jobs. Everyone deserves a chance to make a success off what they've learnt.

Feeling that one is owed lifelong fealty for (an often) poorly paid employee has its own bad karma.

I think that Dallas already 'gets it' - she is not recruiting the current staff, as has already been stated. She will not turn them down if they want to work for her instead, though, which is fair - although it will always look bad to the club owner. Why should Dallas refuse people she had a good relationship with? So long as Dallas doesn't try to scoop up the existing customer base and staff, Dallas is fine on the Karma bit. If they come to her, I don't think she should refuse.

lol.

What is it with insane club owners seeking revenge on former employees this way? I've been through this personally twice now, and have heard countless stories about it happening to others. A club I run security for right now is experiencing a similar griefing bonanza, but it's over a different (equally petty) issue.

I agree with what most people are saying. The best advice is to have a mass ar party some night when you are all bored. I would even report the threat of the sim crash, just so it's on record. I know people say the Lindens don't respond to ar's, but if it's serious enough they do.

Not only free (because she had no previous experience and came on as a liability that had to be trained) but was paid also.

It is known as 'professional' courtesy.

I am going to respect the free will of the customer and the employee to go where they want to go. If they choose Dallas, so be it.

Dallas rendered all the courtesy necessary by telling the club owner instead of just sneaking off. She is not trying to take the staff or customer base. Dallas' obligation ends there, and that is all the courtesy necessary.

If a customer decides to move on, that is his or her choice. Same with employees, so long as they are not recruited. If they want to jump ship, for whatever reason, that is a symptom of something bigger that Dallas' former employer needs to think about, and not blame Dallas.

I was trained, in a previous venue where the club owner and I were co-workers. the club owner in fact did giveme much help when we worked together and I was new. However, my arrangement was a tip splitting deal. Whatever I made, it was based on my owners and the club owner got 20% of the dancing tips and escorting fees. Its not like she was shelling out personal income to pay a newbie while I learned the ropes. Every dime I made while I was in her employ was split 80-20. I felt this was a fair arrangement nad have no problem with it. Even when the tip jars weren't working and/or customers paid me directly I ALWAYS w/o exception sent her her 20%. I'm glad I did too.

I'm not directly soliciting her customers or employees. If they want to patronize my club or work for me, I wont turn them away though.

Employers - particularly SL employers, who usually pay absurdly low wages - make money from their employees, more than they pay them unless they've severely miscalculated their expenses. Otherwise, what would be the point?

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Venues do not make money. They are considered LOSS LEADERS. The traffic at the venues creates a market for the retail leases, advertising space and sellable products on the parcel the club is on. After paying tier, buying dances and club equipment, advertising, paying staff and spending hours running the club - the club owner may make enough profit to pay their internet bill or spend what they are comfortable with spending each month to support their venue.

The point is that we do enjoy our venues and the time we spend developing them.

Nope, clubs only lose money. So if someone wants to open a club just to make money, they had better shut it down before it opens. Otherwise get used to the color red.

In my opinion, Dallas should extend that courtesy even further and not hire (or publicly announce as she has in these forums) that she would happily hire anyone from her former employer's business. I like to see SL venue owners behave like a community of professionals with the utmost respect for each other's business. Openly welcoming staff from your most recent former employer's business (which you are going into the exact same business) seems quite rude and spiteful. Dallas says that she "honestly hopes for her continued success". Then make every effort and not announce in a public forum that she has anger management isues and that you would not turn away her customers and staff. Loyalty is hard to find in a virtual environment - the new crop of venue owners should work toward establishing a basic harmony and not engage in such nastiness.

Sorry once the employer made threats, any and all loyalty and respect due her from Dallas was void. Dallas would be within her rights to recruit every one of her former co workers and customers.