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should I fear if I express my opinion about reported bad behavior from LL?

Har Fairweather
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08-30-2007 16:15
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Nina Stepford
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08-31-2007 07:26
reading a couple years worth of postings is overkill imo.
i believe what was being suggested was a synopsis of the events that led up to the current circumstances. it was then stated that this forum would not be the best place to start a prokofy discussion. do you disagree? can you indicate which comment implied information was 'hidden away'? or did you just make that one up?
of course you are already aware of this, but you couldnt resist the opportunity to be abrasive.
it doesnt make you appear nearly as clever as you may believe.
From: Elex Dusk
Oh noes... this would involve searching the archive. And, the only way to search the archive is to use the search link located between the words New Post and Quick Links up there in the menu bar. Yes, that information is all buried away and hidden specifically so Linden Lab can keep certain residents, those who endlessly broke forum posting rules (the evidence was planted, of course), from bringing all of us the secret to WHATEVER though it mainly involved axe grinding and/or foil hats coming loose and unattached.

Did you know that the Lindens use a special beam to manifest themselve invisibly in our RL homes while we're away and use our keyboards to do terrible terrible things? Yeah. It's true. A particular blog (which never lets facts get in the way) told me so and it has to be true as this person established street cred by getting banned from the forums.

It had absolutely nothing to do with the individual's own behavior and actions within the forums. That was totally out of their control. It had nothing to do with them constantly seeking attention with their rather fantastical tales of persecution. "Look at me! Look at me! And if you don't look at me it means that the space-Kremlin located on the secret 47th alien base is in collaboration with Linden Lab to mess up my game play. I would've been the biggest land baron in SL if it hadn't been for Linden Lab and those gosh darn UN black helicopters marking us with tracking chips while we sleep which cause eggs to break after I buy them. LINDEN LAB PRE-BROKE MY EGGS!!!! Film at 11pm. If you miss this important information you are an agent of the evil Lindens. SPIDERS SPIDERS SPIDERS"

Err... okay. Yeah. That's the impression I get from the archives regarding the individual in question.

But as we all know... pssst... the Lindens changed all those documents in the archive by using a special gas made from pink onions that only grow under mushrooms and have to be picked by the Elves of the Kingdom of Medullablastoma SO THAT THE TRUTH CANNOT GET OUT.

Yes, yes, I know... they're standing in the middle of the road yanking open trucks to show us the alien pods (which are made by Linden Lab) and what we all see are cans of Dinty Moore Beef Stew spilling out. THAT'S BECAUSE THE ALIEN PODS THAT WANT TO TAKE OVER OUR BODIES AND POLLUTE OUR PRECIOUS FLUIDS CAN DISGUISE THEMSELVES.

That person performed a service for us and we were all so ungrateful.

Persecution complex combined with trying to achieve revenge fantasies. All so very very healthy.

*rolls his eyes and sighs*
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08-31-2007 07:28
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08-31-2007 10:37
As long as you mind the TOS and Forum Guidelines, you have nothing to worry about, Tigro. Speak your mind with wanton candor :)
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TigroSpottystripes Katsu
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08-31-2007 13:14
From: Travis Lambert
As long as you mind the TOS and Forum Guidelines, you have nothing to worry about, Tigro. Speak your mind with wanton candor :)



the thing is, if you're wrong, that happy lag complai8ning peeps make LL look good for the overall community while they secretly oppress anyone truly against them...it is somewhat of a gamble... (and talking about gamble, from what I've heard, SL is against its own rules, people who buy L$ might get some real life money from SL, and they might have to pay even more than they agreed to pay if "someone" wakes up on the wrong side of the bed...)

I've heard tons of talk about the nasty things LL did to relatively innocent people, and with the exception of situations like this where there is the suspicion LL might be fully honest, not much talk has been arising about how all the bad stuff many people say LL do isn't real...


why aren't thousands of people out there marching on a parade to honor the honesty of LL, and a bunch of blogs talking about the nasty people that make up lies about LL just "to get lulz" or somthing like that?

I haven't been convinced so far that I shouldn't be expecting some big nasty thing happening to me and/or some people I know "accidentally"....


ps: I know that stuff like tripping on wires, dropping coffee on a router and big fires do happen accidentally for real, but the fact that the explanations based on accidental mishaps are very plausible , just makes it more easy to have those type of stuff happening to people they dislike and then they claim it is not their fault... ("look, we've just fried a whole bunch of gorean sims, not just yours, we wouldn't be killing our own people like that, would we...?";)


ps2:but being the way I am, I am not completly closed to the idea a big company like LL wouldn't be doing politics (or pretend I've used some other analogy if the reference to politicians offends you or somthing like that, I know you got my point), it is indeed possible all the fuzz that have reached my ears so far has been the result of some initially harmless misunderstanding or somthi8ng like that, and I'm sorry if I made some bad choice of words, expressions etc when talking about this, I'm just kinda fearing that if it was real many people would be falling for that facade, if nothing bad comes after me or people that talk about stuff like that it is either cause they are indeed the good guys and won't mind the conspiracy theorists having their fun (on their own way), or that the tinfoil hats just helps them convincing the general population there are no roswel mascots pulling the strings all over the world and that it just stuff crazy people think about....anyway, proceed with the convo, I'll be here for as long as I can :)



edit:just fixed a couple of typos
Wilhelm Neumann
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08-31-2007 14:25
From: Elex Dusk

*rolls his eyes and sighs*


Where is elex and what have you done with him ?
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Rooke Ayres
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08-31-2007 14:40
Tigro,

If you're really worried about someone at LL "Getting Even" or "Punishing the Complainers" that much, then simply don't say anything bad about SL or LL.

LL is a company whose employees are individuals. No matter what the overall corporate attitude is, there will always be one or two individuals in any company that have their own way of handling things - that go against the corporate rules. Sometimes these people do things they shouldn't do just because they lost their temper, or in the worst case, need professional help.

From my personal experience with SL and LL in the last eight months, I think that LL, overall, has a pretty good attitude. Now a few months back, one of their employees made some statements in the official blog about some rules that caused a very big outcry from the user community. It wasn't what was said, but how it was stated - almost on the verge of being what some would consider fascistic. Although LL backed up the content of what was said, that person hasn't made many more official blog entries.

Now as far as the Prokovy situation is concerned, I cannot comment on that since I know nothing about it. The only thing I do know, is that I've read other peoples comments that that person tends to go too far with caustic comments. If Prokovy truly annoyed one of LL's employees when they were having a *bad* day, then it's possible that they did something that they were not authorized nor allowed to do.

The bottom line is, it's OK to critisize LL or SL here. LL even welcomes constructive critisizm. But no one likes being constantly harrased with crude, caustic or vulgar critisizm.

If you have something to complain about, try to say it, calmly and cooly, without making it a personal attack because even some of the best of people will get even for hurting them - if pushed too far. It's only human nature.
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08-31-2007 15:24
Oh C'mon. If LL was disappearing Foum Big Mouths, I'd have been gone......*glass breaking*.."Hey, who the hell are you? No! I'm not going with you!".......*Thud*.............
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08-31-2007 15:29
Save the panties! Er, I mean Brenda!

On second thought, let 'em take her...dibs on the shoes!
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08-31-2007 15:49
I wonder if they are taking her where they store the stolen crabs. *starts to behave from this post on*
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08-31-2007 15:55
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Save the panties! Er, I mean Brenda!

On second thought, let 'em taker her...dibs on the shoes!

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08-31-2007 16:06
From: TigroSpottystripes Katsu
... make LL look good for the overall community while they secretly oppress anyone truly against them...


Well, duh, Dude! LL is a small company with a possible huge payoff in the event of success, and an even more likely big downside if they fail. If a resident - let's say he's named, oh... Spot ... is "truly against them", and Spot shows himself to be competent enough to endanger the company, wouldn't the Lindens be idiots if they simply ignored Spot? So they won't.

But the method by which they would prevent Spot from harming the company does not need to be secret -- it is already open. That is what the TOS is for, to prevent residents from harming LL or each other. If Spot finds a new way to harm LL that is not covered by the TOS, LL does not have to do anything secret. They just amend the TOS any time they want, and toss Spot out. Simple.

They do not need to secretly disconnect routers or sabotage your sim.

So. Abide by the TOS, and you will be treated reasonably fairly by the company. If you encounter an LL employee who is not behaving ethically, demand an investigation. They (the company) will pay attention ... at this stage, they don't want any trouble. But don't expect them to like you for it if you waste their time with spurious claims.
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