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should I fear if I express my opinion about reported bad behavior from LL?

Soen Eber
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08-29-2007 21:00
In some ways some of the Lindens can be incredibly childish. I think they're trying to be more professional, especially now they've seen what the media and government types can throw at them (child porn allegations, gambling, etc). With their well-publicized platform stability issues, the souring of the business press on SL, and the subprime home loan driven liquidity issues in the investment community their shot at selling out to a high-priced takeover bid is now officially over [take a look at who their angel investors were when the company was founded to see where this could have gone...]. What this means is their only remaining option is to actually put their nose to the grindstone and pay due dilligence (this is a theory only: they may still opt for the "run it into the ground and pull out huge bonuses" option but there may be conditions from the investment group to block this).

Anyone who's ever worked for a disfunctional small company knows full well what the possibilities are for mischief (under American law the easiest way to kill someone without real consequence of a penalty is to hire them and then have them die in an "accident"...). I think they're less, now, but they'll still land on anyone like a ton of bricks, and there are still small, petty people there.
Alicia Sautereau
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08-29-2007 21:01
don`t worry to much unless u make full out assault on ll, made enough comments/remark without a problem *goes back to hiding*

problem is, most lindens u see inworld, either liasions, tech support or who ever, are there to do dmg control for the actual coders wich we will never see
policy changes etc are done by the office by ppl we won`t see either under normal circumstances(sp)

if u`ve read the town meeting chat history, even if we meet them, better have gotten some sleep...

if ur going to vent, direct it at ll and not lindens
LL = office
lindens = ppl ingame

pissing of the ppl ingame might get some bad feelings, it would be having spike linden come to my island after an performance issue and once he got there say they sucked and are incompitent while just there to help dmg control and fix an issue created by the monkies at the office and he`s a pritty nice guy :p

know what u say and towards who without breaking any rules ;)
Usagi Musashi
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08-29-2007 22:55
oh well.........its LLABS problems its not venting its just plain facts. LLAbs has a long history of using people and throwing them away. But the insult comes when they try force all togther off the game. Many of the early people way before my time and up to my time that gave alot of time to this stupid game to help PR and guide new people. But at the end of out usefulness LLABS just had to start issues for force many of us that did want to continue helping. But LLABs doesnt see it that way, the only thing they care about is their self. I said this once i said this countless times, LLABS if it knows it can use your abilities wil do so. Until they feel your time for mentoring building, linden workers or otherwise is nolonger required. This is not a personal bitch, this is a collection union of pasted users that gone this shit.
Brenda Archer
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08-29-2007 23:47
From: SuezanneC Baskerville


One might take what I just said with a grain of salt, after all, I just got kicked out of a virtual world.


Thanks for the info on that. Oh well, I can't get Kaneva to work right anyway. I'm okay when I'm in the "apartment" but when I got to the "mall" things just froze up.

SL once was what I'm looking for in a virtual world, and I think still has the ability to be, but the way they are handling verification is becoming the last straw for me. I've been cutting back on my SL time a lot lately. I have friends here and can't totally leave, but I'm just not getting enough out of it to justify much time. I think that's quite possibly the worst criticism anyone could make.

I say this, the day after I went over to Corcyrus and took the automated tour - and it was delightful and worked fine. There's so much in SL to see. I thought I could rekindle my interest in SL by taking on a new project of my own, but I can't seem to care.

I'm starting to play with a very basic 3D website program called gogofrog. It has the virtue of running in Flash, which means a lot of computers and even phones should be able to access it, but it's currently buggy. It is quite user friendly however and I hope it does well.
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Nina Stepford
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08-30-2007 00:09
i have been hearing of prokofy for year ive been in sl. and after ready quite a few of her blogs i can see how ll would be very annoyed and agitated with her- shes pretty good at what she does. but ive never really known what the history of that ban blood was all about. this isnt a good place to discuss it, sc is an even worse place to discuss it, so we will likely never know.
From: katykiwi Moonflower
I guess you were not around to witness what was done to Prokofy Neva.
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Ava Glasgow
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08-30-2007 00:14
From: Ann Launay
It IS possible to have opinions without pummeling all and sundry with them.

/me dumps a 20,000 word essay on you, explaining why you are completely and profoundly wrong, and clearly totally unable to comprehend the deeply important issues at hand, probably because you are a member of an elite group that enjoys special privileges not available to the proletariat. :p
Elex Dusk
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08-30-2007 00:24
From: TigroSpottystripes Katsu
...or even suspension of my account for an unspecified period of time...


A resident is always notified of a suspension (by e-mail) and they can always make an appeal to the Abuse Manager.
Usagi Musashi
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08-30-2007 00:34
Oh yea right! like they are really going to pay any attention. IF your on LLABS Black Listing you have no chance of appeal. Its all who you know on SL.
SuezanneC Baskerville
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08-30-2007 00:44
Without me doing anything at all to provoke a response from any of the Lindens, other than the minor matter of me initiating an attack, Jeska Linden's Facebook zombie "laid some Zombie smack-down on [me]". Wagner James Au, ex Hamlet Linden, also trounced my facebook zombie. Inworld penalties aren't sufficient for the vengeage loving Linden staff. Linden meanies go after your facebook zombies.

Is there no justice in the world? No peaceful haven where you just sit and peacefully attack other people's facebook zombies in full confidence that they won't mount even token opposition?
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Nina Stepford
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08-30-2007 00:47
what is a facebook zombie?
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~~GREATEST HITS~~
pro-life? gtfo! slu- banning opposing opinions one at a time
http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/zomgwtfbbqgtfololcats/15428-disingenuous.html
learn to shut up and nod in agreement... or be banned!
http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/off-topic/1239-americans-not-stupid.html
Usagi Musashi
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08-30-2007 01:18
I don`t get what she said? Did you Nina? I not trying to be mean. Is she upset or is she talking about someone else?
Nina Stepford
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08-30-2007 04:05
well those two lindens took their anger at suz off the grid and into a blog site and i guess said bad things about her in blogs.
but im not sure what a facebook zombie is.
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pro-life? gtfo! slu- banning opposing opinions one at a time
http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/zomgwtfbbqgtfololcats/15428-disingenuous.html
learn to shut up and nod in agreement... or be banned!
http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/off-topic/1239-americans-not-stupid.html
Roland Gray
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08-30-2007 04:43
Mmmm.....
Think I'll get an Alt
.........wonder if 'Rampant Paranoia' is available !!
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08-30-2007 04:51
http://www.secretlair.com/index.php?/clickableculture/entry/zombies_infect_facebook/

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Nina Stepford
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08-30-2007 05:10
ok so suz must have been taking the piss then.
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pro-life? gtfo! slu- banning opposing opinions one at a time
http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/zomgwtfbbqgtfololcats/15428-disingenuous.html
learn to shut up and nod in agreement... or be banned!
http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/off-topic/1239-americans-not-stupid.html
Brenda Connolly
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08-30-2007 05:25
From: Nina Stepford
i have been hearing of prokofy for year ive been in sl. and after ready quite a few of her blogs i can see how ll would be very annoyed and agitated with her- shes pretty good at what she does. but ive never really known what the history of that ban blood was all about. this isnt a good place to discuss it, sc is an even worse place to discuss it, so we will likely never know.

I agree. I've read a few of her items and found them to be interesting, and entertaining , but not knowing the history, I can't go beyond that either.
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Brenda Connolly
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08-30-2007 05:27
From: Ava Glasgow
/me dumps a 20,000 word essay on you, explaining why you are completely and profoundly wrong, and clearly totally unable to comprehend the deeply important issues at hand, probably because you are a member of an elite group that enjoys special privileges not available to the proletariat. :p

Do you want sex now?
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Nina Stepford
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08-30-2007 05:37
wow that was a sloppy post.
i should have learnt to proofread my posts by now hey.
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~~GREATEST HITS~~
pro-life? gtfo! slu- banning opposing opinions one at a time
http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/zomgwtfbbqgtfololcats/15428-disingenuous.html
learn to shut up and nod in agreement... or be banned!
http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/off-topic/1239-americans-not-stupid.html
Usagi Musashi
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08-30-2007 07:16
From: Nina Stepford
well those two lindens took their anger at suz off the grid and into a blog site and i guess said bad things about her in blogs.
but im not sure what a facebook zombie is.



um........ok half is understood.
Victorria Paine
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08-30-2007 07:19
From: Brenda Connolly


From: someone
Originally Posted by Nina Stepford
i have been hearing of prokofy for year ive been in sl. and after ready quite a few of her blogs i can see how ll would be very annoyed and agitated with her- shes pretty good at what she does. but ive never really known what the history of that ban blood was all about. this isnt a good place to discuss it, sc is an even worse place to discuss it, so we will likely never know.


I agree. I've read a few of her items and found them to be interesting, and entertaining , but not knowing the history, I can't go beyond that either.


Hmmm. I have some pre-SL history on that too, but as noted this isn't the place to discuss it. Pity, that ...
Ricky Zamboni
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08-30-2007 07:20
From: Desmond Shang
You are late to the party - his file is already a cabinet and a half. :D

/me looks around with shifty eyes.
Elex Dusk
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08-30-2007 10:53
From: Victorria Paine
Hmmm. I have some pre-SL history on that too, but as noted this isn't the place to discuss it. Pity, that ...


Oh noes... this would involve searching the archive. And, the only way to search the archive is to use the search link located between the words New Post and Quick Links up there in the menu bar. Yes, that information is all buried away and hidden specifically so Linden Lab can keep certain residents, those who endlessly broke forum posting rules (the evidence was planted, of course), from bringing all of us the secret to WHATEVER though it mainly involved axe grinding and/or foil hats coming loose and unattached.

Did you know that the Lindens use a special beam to manifest themselve invisibly in our RL homes while we're away and use our keyboards to do terrible terrible things? Yeah. It's true. A particular blog (which never lets facts get in the way) told me so and it has to be true as this person established street cred by getting banned from the forums.

It had absolutely nothing to do with the individual's own behavior and actions within the forums. That was totally out of their control. It had nothing to do with them constantly seeking attention with their rather fantastical tales of persecution. "Look at me! Look at me! And if you don't look at me it means that the space-Kremlin located on the secret 47th alien base is in collaboration with Linden Lab to mess up my game play. I would've been the biggest land baron in SL if it hadn't been for Linden Lab and those gosh darn UN black helicopters marking us with tracking chips while we sleep which cause eggs to break after I buy them. LINDEN LAB PRE-BROKE MY EGGS!!!! Film at 11pm. If you miss this important information you are an agent of the evil Lindens. SPIDERS SPIDERS SPIDERS"

Err... okay. Yeah. That's the impression I get from the archives regarding the individual in question.

But as we all know... pssst... the Lindens changed all those documents in the archive by using a special gas made from pink onions that only grow under mushrooms and have to be picked by the Elves of the Kingdom of Medullablastoma SO THAT THE TRUTH CANNOT GET OUT.

Yes, yes, I know... they're standing in the middle of the road yanking open trucks to show us the alien pods (which are made by Linden Lab) and what we all see are cans of Dinty Moore Beef Stew spilling out. THAT'S BECAUSE THE ALIEN PODS THAT WANT TO TAKE OVER OUR BODIES AND POLLUTE OUR PRECIOUS FLUIDS CAN DISGUISE THEMSELVES.

That person performed a service for us and we were all so ungrateful.

Persecution complex combined with trying to achieve revenge fantasies. All so very very healthy.

*rolls his eyes and sighs*
Maggie McArdle
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08-30-2007 11:53
yes...and..they are watching your every move as we speak....
/me goes back into her bomb shelter and dons her tinfoil suit
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Oryx Tempel
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08-30-2007 12:17
From: Elex Dusk
Oh noes...

*rolls his eyes and sighs*



LOL! This made me literally laugh out loud. Thanks!
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08-30-2007 12:27
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Just because you're paranoid it doesn't mean they aren't after you...
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ps:emphasis added on the characters that didn't got in the original post due to a slight hiccup of my computer
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